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I thought that the IGF had delegated the running of the event to the EGF.
mumps wrote:There's a meeting of the IGF next week at which the EGF are submitting some proposals, so we can expect some announcements soon after that.

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Any news yet whatsoever?
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SURPRISE !!!1!

the IGF website has some details
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Does it? Where?

I could find bridge info at the IMSA site, for instance: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille. ... #Programme

But nothing for go
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The WMSG-II announcement is now available at the IGF website <http://intergofed.org/index.php>, including tournament details, schedule, and a hotel list.
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The rules as outlined in the attached documents indicate that players should be nominated by the Go federation to which they belong. There is no stated rule about citizenship or residency. Is there a rule that players must be either a citizen and/or a resident in the country that nominates them? Or is that up to the nominating country to decide?

Edit: the EGF have confirmed that citizenship is required.
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quantumf wrote:The EGF have confirmed that citizenship is required.
Right. WMSG is modeled after the Olympics. While WMSG does not yet have its own charter, the Olympic Charter requires that "an athlete be a national of the country they compete for".
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Hsiang wrote:WMSG is modeled after the Olympics.
If the earlier stated information is right, McMahon (not all participants have the same right to win), no professionals (some of the strongest players are prohibited) and extra youth tournament (not all participants in the overall event have the same right to win the same) contradict that. The first WMSG was pretty close to the Olympics - the second is not at all.
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RobertJasiek wrote:
Hsiang wrote:WMSG is modeled after the Olympics.
If the earlier stated information is right, McMahon (not all participants have the same right to win), no professionals (some of the strongest players are prohibited) and extra youth tournament (not all participants in the overall event have the same right to win the same) contradict that. The first WMSG was pretty close to the Olympics - the second is not at all.
That's mainly because of a lack of funding Robert, but they're doing their best to find resources and go ahead with it anyway. It's the same old story, and you must know that by now...
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gogameguru wrote:That's mainly because of a lack of funding
Not at all! Swiss or KO (as examples of different tournament systems) instead of McMahon costs nothing, allowing professionals to enter costs nothing (for the event organisation) and letting young and adult players play in one tournament costs nothing!
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I was under the impression that professionals just weren't interested in attending, not that they were blocked from entering.

Perhaps you've read otherwise?
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So far, I have believed Javaness2:
http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/viewto ... 06#p101174

Do you have the URLs for the pages or documents that specify the details?
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RobertJasiek wrote:
Hsiang wrote:WMSG is modeled after the Olympics.
If the earlier stated information is right, McMahon (not all participants have the same right to win), no professionals (some of the strongest players are prohibited) and extra youth tournament (not all participants in the overall event have the same right to win the same) contradict that. The first WMSG was pretty close to the Olympics - the second is not at all.
Actually, the Olympics traditionally did not allow professional athletes to compete, and some restrictions on professional participation still exists for some sports. Also, there has been a recent addition of Youth Olympic Games in addition to the regular Olympic games.
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