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 Post subject: If White has a sente, he will play 1 to 7. #1 Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 6:52 am
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`[go]\$\$W If White has a sente, he will play 1 to 7.\$\$ ------------------\$\$ . . . . . . . . .|\$\$ . . 6 4 2 . . . .|\$\$ . 7 5 3 1 X X . .|\$\$ . . . . . O O . .|\$\$ . . . . . . . . .|\$\$ . . . . . . . . .|\$\$ . . . . . . . . .|\$\$ . . . . . . . . .|\$\$ . . . . . . . . .|[/go]`

"Black can crawl on the second line - the line of defeat - all he wants, and White will answer him gladly at every step.
(Toshiro Kageyama; Lessons in the Fundamentals of Go)

Unfortunately the author does not go on explaining why exactly White is happy to have Black on the second line in this situation and I feel like he might have expanded on this fundamental principle a little bit more...

Would you be so kind to shed some light on it?

Thanks.

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 Post subject: Re: If White has a sente, he will play 1 to 7. #2 Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 6:59 am
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I'm guessing that black gains ~1 point per move while white thickness towards the centre is much more valuable.

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 Post subject: Re: If White has a sente, he will play 1 to 7. #3 Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 10:50 am
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`[go]\$\$W If White has a sente, he will play 1 to 7.\$\$ ------------------\$\$ . . . . . . . . .|\$\$ . . 6 4 2 . . . .|\$\$ . 7 5 3 1 X X . .|\$\$ . . . . . O O . .|\$\$ . . . . . . . . .|\$\$ . . . . . . . . .|\$\$ . . . . . . . . .|\$\$ . . . . . . . . .|\$\$ . . . . . . . . .|[/go]`

On an empty board, is bad. As ilFuria points out, it gains only 1 point or so along the side, while gains more than that in the center. How much more is unclear, but the consensus is that it gains more than 2 points. IMO, and in the opinion of many others, it gains more than 3 points.

IMO, this position is worth around 25 points for Black, somewhat less than a 2 stone handicap.

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