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Controversial resign by Lee ChangHo in Fujitsu cup
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Author:  trout [ Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:51 am ]
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After many pro's analysis, they determined that Lee ChangHo would have won if he continued his game against Won SeongJin.

http://www.cyberoro.com/news/news_view.oro?num=514951

Author:  mw42 [ Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:49 am ]
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This highlights the mindset he is in which is likely why he is struggling as of late. He recently got married, did he not?

Author:  trout [ Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:30 pm ]
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Yes, he did. I thought that his marriage will stabilize his life. Maybe he need more time.

Author:  Mark356 [ Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:47 pm ]
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Interesting. I looked at the board, and thought they both had about 60 points. I'd love to see the pro analysis, though!

Author:  trout [ Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:53 pm ]
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Follow link shown in original post. It is written in Korean. But if you follow go board shown below, you will see.

Author:  Joaz Banbeck [ Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:45 pm ]
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trout wrote:
Follow link shown in original post. It is written in Korean. But if you follow go board shown below, you will see.


Go board? I see no go board.

Author:  trout [ Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:49 pm ]
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Use Internet explorer then you will see it.
I cannot see it either if I use Firefox.

Author:  gogameguru [ Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:52 pm ]
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We've published a story about this, with the game record here: http://gogameguru.com/lee-changho-wont-play-24th-fujitsu-cup/

An Younggil will be commenting the game in the next few days, so subscribe to our updates if you're interested.

Author:  John Fairbairn [ Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:17 am ]
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I wonder. There was a controversial incident between these two in 2009, in a very important titlematch game. Yi went to the loo during byoyomi. By custom there, his opponent gets all the time he is away on top of the byoyomi period, but an officious scorer ignored that and made an unprepared Weon slap down an improperly considered move in a close game. Yi went on to win the title.

Was he nobly paying his dues in the Fujitsu? Or was he just in a hurry to go to the loo again?

Author:  Javaness [ Sun Feb 13, 2011 6:33 am ]
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mw42 wrote:
This highlights the mindset he is in which is likely why he is struggling as of late. He recently got married, did he not?


Why should marriage alter his performance ^_^

Author:  Magicwand [ Sun Feb 13, 2011 6:42 am ]
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people make mistake when they get old.
if you see my game against Kirby i made a "ddk should see them in 1/2 sec" mistake and killed by group.
just because they are professional players wont mean they are perfect.

it is good to be young..

Author:  SpongeBob [ Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:38 am ]
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Maybe he was dissatisfied with his performance in the game - some chances that he didn't take or some moves that he regreted later.

Although he's stone buddha doesn't mean he has no feelings (especially now, since he got married ;-) ).

Author:  ethanb [ Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:52 am ]
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trout wrote:
Use Internet explorer then you will see it.
I cannot see it either if I use Firefox.


I thought I remembered hearing one or two years ago that South Korean banks were pretty much the last bastion of ActiveX users in the world, and they were in a tizzy because even Microsoft has started to admit that ActiveX is a bad idea and is slowly removing pieces of it from IE as new versions come out...

Guess it's not just the banks.

Author:  daal [ Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:01 am ]
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John Fairbairn wrote:
Was he nobly paying his dues in the Fujitsu? Or was he just...


...exhibiting his good sportsmanship? :mrgreen:

Author:  Stable [ Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:51 am ]
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Perhaps he wants to lower his rank so he can sandbag the younger pros. :blackeye:

Author:  gogameguru [ Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:20 am ]
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Here is Younggil's commentary of the game, for those who are interested.

http://gogameguru.com/commentary-lee-ch ... jitsu-cup/

According to Younggil there is some controversy in Korea about whether top pros should be automatically seeded to international tournaments like the Fujitsu Cup. To my mind there is some sense in not tiring your top players out in a grueling qualifying round. On the other hand, I suspect some would argue that it makes everyone tougher when they have to make it through the domestic rounds.

@John, your suggestion of paying dues is intriguing to us. It would have to be an incredibly strong sense of debt to win over the killer instinct of a world champion baduk player, wouldn't it?

David

Author:  wessanenoctupus [ Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:45 am ]
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Hey guys, I was just looking over the commentary by An Yong Il, and move 51 stuck out to me.

A. Is this a common tesuji? its pretty cool IMHO
B. Why is that important to do now? It seems too early for endgame things...

Author:  mw42 [ Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:51 am ]
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wessanenoctupus wrote:
Hey guys, I was just looking over the commentary by An Yong Il, and move 51 stuck out to me.

A. Is this a common tesuji? its pretty cool IMHO
B. Why is that important to do now? It seems too early for endgame things...


It's big endgame, but more importantly it is sente. White's corner will die if black plays another move.

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