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Post #1 Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:35 pm 
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I have a few questions:

1.) Can you import other Go engines into Smartgo and where can you find them?

2.) On IGS for playing other people on the internet, is there any way to watch a game and talk in the general chat for that game at the same time through SmartGo? I have been able to do this on PandaGo but cannot figure out how to do it on SmartGo.

3.) Is there any way to join other servers besides IGS in SmartGo such as Tygem or WBaduk and play them through the SmartGo gui?

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer!!!

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Post #2 Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:45 pm 
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Let's see if Anders is following this thread. :)

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Post #3 Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:34 pm 
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Well he showed me the kibitz button to talk in group chat so that is number 2 answered...

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Post #4 Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:59 pm 
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Carcosa wrote:
I have a few questions:

1.) Can you import other Go engines into Smartgo and where can you find them?

2.) On IGS for playing other people on the internet, is there any way to watch a game and talk in the general chat for that game at the same time through SmartGo? I have been able to do this on PandaGo but cannot figure out how to do it on SmartGo.

3.) Is there any way to join other servers besides IGS in SmartGo such as Tygem or WBaduk and play them through the SmartGo gui?

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer!!!


I am pretty sure that Tygem and Wbaduk are both closed protocols and you can only use their own client software.

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Post #5 Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:46 pm 
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Carcosa wrote:
I have a few questions:

1.) Can you import other Go engines into Smartgo and where can you find them?


Yes, you can import GTP engines like GNU Go and Leela. A good starting point to find them is this forum and this webpage: http://senseis.xmp.net/?LatestGoSoftwareUpdates

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Post #6 Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:12 pm 
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Yes, you can connect other engines that talk GTP (Go Text Protocol).
An example is GNU Go. Download from https://www.gnu.org/software/gnugo/
Tell SmartGo where to find it using Tools > Options > Engine > Go Text Protocol Engines.

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Post #7 Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:36 pm 
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So I downloaded "Leela 0.70 engine only" here http://www.sjeng.org/leela.html to my harddrive.

and tried adding it to Smartgo through tools/ options/ engines/ go text protocol engines.

I linked it to the Leela file I downloaded onto my hardrive, but it says "gtp not working" under the "go text protocol engines" window

any suggestions?

P.S. my antivirus software flagged these executables as dangerous but I changed it to recognize them as safe.

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Post #8 Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:40 am 
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Carcosa wrote:
So I downloaded "Leela 0.70 engine only" here http://www.sjeng.org/leela.html to my harddrive.

and tried adding it to Smartgo through tools/ options/ engines/ go text protocol engines.

I linked it to the Leela file I downloaded onto my hardrive, but it says "gtp not working" under the "go text protocol engines" window

any suggestions?

P.S. my antivirus software flagged these executables as dangerous but I changed it to recognize them as safe.


Don't worry, the source is trustable.

You downloaded 2 executeables, one that uses the GPU and one the CPU only.

Try the "Leela070GTP.exe" and add the commandline option "-g" and any other option you like.

From the readme file:
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Allowed options:
  -h [ --help ]         Show commandline options
  -g [ --gtp ]          Enable GTP mode
  -t [ --threads ] arg  Number of threads to use
  -p [ --playouts ] arg Limit number of playouts
  --noponder            Disable pondering
  --nonets              Disable use of neural networks


If this works you can try the same with the gpu version, it should be faster but needs a compatible video card.

Hope this helps,
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Post #9 Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 3:27 pm 
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I got GNU to work, but Anders sent me an email saying Leela doesn't work with Smartgo right now, so I guess that solves that.

Thank you for the response though

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Post #10 Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 6:48 pm 
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Ok so is it possible to connect go OGS with SmartGo or is it like Tygem and WBaduk?

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Post #11 Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:32 am 
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OGS barely existed the last time SmartGo had a major release, so it definitely will not support it. In principle it would be possible, since OGS has a public API that works quite well (Ancient Go uses it to act as a third-party client), but I doubt Anders would find it worth the effort.

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I am pretty sure that Tygem and Wbaduk are both closed protocols and you can only use their own client software.

While true, the protocols have been reverse-engineered – qGo can connect to Tygem last time I checked (a few weeks ago), although obviously it is not as full-featured as the native client.

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Post #12 Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:41 am 
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Carcosa wrote:
I got GNU to work, but Anders sent me an email saying Leela doesn't work with Smartgo right now, so I guess that solves that.

There was a bug in SmartGo as well as one in Leela (which SmartGo can work around), so the next version of SmartGo will work with Leela.

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Post #13 Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 1:58 pm 
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smartgo wrote:
Carcosa wrote:
I got GNU to work, but Anders sent me an email saying Leela doesn't work with Smartgo right now, so I guess that solves that.

There was a bug in SmartGo as well as one in Leela (which SmartGo can work around), so the next version of SmartGo will work with Leela.


Is it possible now to use Leela 0.8.0 with SmartGo?
And how to do that?

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Post #14 Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 2:25 pm 
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Is it possible now to use Leela 0.8.0 with SmartGo?

Yes. In the newest SmartGo for Windows, choose Tools > Options > Engine > Go Text Protocol Engines, and add Leela with command line option: leela --gtp

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