It is currently Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:11 am

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 11 posts ] 
Author Message
Offline
 Post subject: Where have all the strong players gone?
Post #1 Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 5:32 am 
Beginner
User avatar

Posts: 2
Liked others: 0
Was liked: 0
Rank: KGS 1dan
KGS: RayTomes
I joined KGS 4 years ago. I prefer the KGS interface to other go servers.

As much as anything, I have enjoyed watching high dan players matches. There are always many spectators and lots of kibitz.

Over recent months, the number of high dan games has steadily declined. Where have they all gone? Something needs to be done or KGS will head towards oblivion. That would be very sad to see.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Where have all the strong players gone?
Post #2 Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:03 am 
Lives in sente
User avatar

Posts: 933
Location: Springfield, OR
Liked others: 304
Was liked: 330
Rank: AGA 6d
GD Posts: 952
KGS: Sandalphon
Tygem: Misshape
Well, are you sure it's not just a summer phenomena? Folks on vacation, playing go is all about having something to procrastinate right?

_________________
Let my comments be as eggs thrown on stones... explosive and hard to wash.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Where have all the strong players gone?
Post #3 Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:34 am 
Gosei
User avatar

Posts: 1595
Liked others: 260
Was liked: 303
Rank: KGS 2d
RayTomes wrote:
I joined KGS 4 years ago. I prefer the KGS interface to other go servers.

As much as anything, I have enjoyed watching high dan players matches. There are always many spectators and lots of kibitz.

Over recent months, the number of high dan games has steadily declined. Where have they all gone? Something needs to be done or KGS will head towards oblivion. That would be very sad to see.


Perhaps when you joined KGS 4 years ago, you were a mid-SDK or weaker. Now, at 1d, the 6ds are starting to seem a bit more fallible.

_________________
I'm the D- to the -u-s-k E-a-g-l-e
And ain't no other pony play their stones like me
I'm Dusklelicious

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Where have all the strong players gone?
Post #4 Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:43 am 
Gosei
User avatar

Posts: 1498
Liked others: 56
Was liked: 569
Rank: ORO 7d
OGS: SolC5
They're on the Asian servers.

_________________
肚皮


This post by Araban was liked by: ez4u
Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Where have all the strong players gone?
Post #5 Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:53 am 
Lives in gote

Posts: 623
Liked others: 69
Was liked: 153
Rank: 5d
GD Posts: 1000
RayTomes wrote:
I joined KGS 4 years ago. I prefer the KGS interface to other go servers.

As much as anything, I have enjoyed watching high dan players matches. There are always many spectators and lots of kibitz.

Over recent months, the number of high dan games has steadily declined. Where have they all gone? Something needs to be done or KGS will head towards oblivion. That would be very sad to see.


If they are departing for other servers it would be a self-reinforcing phenomenon since people don't want to play (high) handicap games all the time.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Where have all the strong players gone?
Post #6 Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:40 pm 
Dies in gote
User avatar

Posts: 26
Location: Canada
Liked others: 0
Was liked: 4
Araban wrote:
They're on the Asian servers.

This. There seem to be many more higher dan players on IGS than KGS, and everyone always says asian players seem to be better than western players of the same rank.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Where have all the strong players gone?
Post #7 Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:46 pm 
Gosei
User avatar

Posts: 1488
Location: Seattle, WA
Liked others: 170
Was liked: 253
KGS: oren
Tygem: oren740, orenl
IGS: oren
Wbaduk: oren
shyin wrote:
This. There seem to be many more higher dan players on IGS than KGS, and everyone always says asian players seem to be better than western players of the same rank.


Most higher dan are on Tygem and wbaduk. Both of these servers have consistently more players than IGS or KGS.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Where have all the strong players gone?
Post #8 Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:54 pm 
Beginner
User avatar

Posts: 2
Liked others: 0
Was liked: 0
Rank: KGS 1dan
KGS: RayTomes
Shapenaji, yes, I am sure it is not seasonal as I have been there 4 years.

Dusk Eagle, no, I was 1d when I joined KGS. I am 64, and not likely to improve at go now. I was 5d before giving it up for 17 years.

Araban, gowan, shyin and oren, I think that you are right. They are on the other servers. But the sad thing is that none of the other servers have such a nice interface as KGS, and they do not have the same discussion of games and friendly chat room like EGR.

As Gowan says, it easily becomes a self reinforcing trend. It wouldn't matter if the other servers had all the good points of KGS. :grumpy:

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Where have all the strong players gone?
Post #9 Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:11 pm 
Lives in gote
User avatar

Posts: 389
Location: Netherlands
Liked others: 102
Was liked: 58
Rank: KGS 1d
KGS: stalkor
i guess IGS has become more popular since there are big tournaments being held there since they stopped sponsoring the european tour.

That said, shouldnt KGS have their own big tournaments organized by KGS themself? If IGS didnt have those big tournaments it would still be a slowly dying server.

These tournaments would likely get strong players on KGS as they want to play in the tournament and will maybe fall in love with KGS.

_________________
admin of the ASR league and KGS admin

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Where have all the strong players gone?
Post #10 Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:31 pm 
Lives in gote

Posts: 335
Location: Germany
Liked others: 41
Was liked: 93
GD Posts: 351
Helel, for me, watching high dan amateur games on other servers doesn't offer the same social experience. On Tygem and Wbaduk, where you can watch high dan games at pretty much any time, the kibitzers don't really chat. It's a fairly lonely affair. Sure, you could "socialize" on KGS at the same time, but the conversation wouldn't be related to the game you're watching in the other window.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Where have all the strong players gone?
Post #11 Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 5:17 am 
Dies in gote
User avatar

Posts: 26
Location: Canada
Liked others: 0
Was liked: 4
oren wrote:
shyin wrote:
This. There seem to be many more higher dan players on IGS than KGS, and everyone always says asian players seem to be better than western players of the same rank.


Most higher dan are on Tygem and wbaduk. Both of these servers have consistently more players than IGS or KGS.

Well, I've never used those. I usually play on KGS but I used IGS to watch the Meijin games, and there seemed to be more strong players there than on KGS.

Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 11 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group