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Offline emerus
 Post subject: Re: 92: Emerus (4k) vs. Redundant (1k)
Post #101 Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:50 pm 
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[go]$$cm1 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . O . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X X O O O X O X . X O O X O . |
$$ | . O O O O X O . X X O X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X . , O O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X O O X . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O X X O . . . O O . . X . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . X B . . X . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


No real comment. Initially I wanted to take sente now but I think that I'll still end up with it.

I have sorta put this game on the shelf for a moment. Maybe will give a move a week until I finish moving at the end of the month.
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Offline Redundant
 Post subject: Re: 92: Emerus (4k) vs. Redundant (1k)
Post #102 Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:10 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . O . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X X O O O X O X . X O O X O . |
$$ | . O O O O X O . X X O X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X . , O O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X O O X . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O X X O . . . O O . . X . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 2 . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 X X . . . . . , . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . 3 O O . X X . . X . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


You ok with this?
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 Post subject: Re: 92: Emerus (4k) vs. Redundant (1k)
Post #103 Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:08 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . O . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X X O O O X O X . X O O X O . |
$$ | . O O O O X O . X X O X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X . , O O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X O O X . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O X X O . . . O O . . X . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 2 . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 X X 4 . . . . , . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . 3 O O . X X . . X . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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 Post subject: Re: 92: Emerus (4k) vs. Redundant (1k)
Post #104 Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 6:46 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . O . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X X O O O X O X . X O O X O . |
$$ | . O O O O X O . X X O X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X . , O O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X O O X . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O X X O . . . O O . . X . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X B . . . . , . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . X X . . X . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ | . b a d . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | c X e . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X 1 . . . . , . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . X X . . X . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . 4 3 O 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

B seems to have taken gote for some thickness, as 2 seems possible. I think F10 is quite a bit better than 2. Not having a move at a is also a little annoying for black because white has bcde sort of aji (or just normal yose at c).

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Offline Redundant
 Post subject: Re: 92: Emerus (4k) vs. Redundant (1k)
Post #105 Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:32 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . O . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X X O O O X O X . X O O X O . |
$$ | . O O O O X O . X X O X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X . , O O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X O O X . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O X X O . . . O O . . X . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . , . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . X X . . X . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . W O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm going to be a little flaky in getting moves out quickly; my life is currently a montage of problem sets.
Can't let him get the turn in sente.

He was nice enough to leave me B6 aji. The left is not near territory. Either he leaves me the aji to invade, or gives me the tempo to reduce.
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 Post subject: Re: 92: Emerus (4k) vs. Redundant (1k)
Post #106 Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:00 am 
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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . O . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X X O O O X O X . X O O X O . |
$$ | . O O O O X O . X X O X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X . , O O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X O O X . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O X X O . . . O O . . X . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . B . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . , . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . X X . . X . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The point between our contesting influence. I can't really play anywhere else after investing both of these walls.

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[go]$$cm1 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . O . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X X O O O X O X . X O O X O . |
$$ | . O O O O X O . X X O X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X . , O O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X O O X . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O X X O . . . O O . . X . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . , . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . X X . . X . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This is impossibly painful.
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 Post subject: Re: 92: Emerus (4k) vs. Redundant (1k)
Post #107 Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:00 am 
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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . O . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X X O O O X O X . X O O X O . |
$$ | . O O O O X O . X X O X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X . , O O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X O O X . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O X X O . . . O O . . X . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . , . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . X X . . X . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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 Post subject: Re: 92: Emerus (4k) vs. Redundant (1k)
Post #108 Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:38 am 
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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . O . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X X O O O X O X . X O O X O . |
$$ | . O O O O X O . X X O X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X . , O O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X O O X . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O X X O . . . O O . . X . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | B X . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . , . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . X X . . X . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't see anything here. What's the purpose of this stone? I can only hope that W will try this:

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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . O . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X X O O O X O X . X O O X O . |
$$ | . O O O O X O . X X O X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X . , O O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X O O X . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O X X O . . . O O . . X . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 2 X 4 . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . , . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . X X . . X . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Looks yummy.
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 Post subject: Re: 92: Emerus (4k) vs. Redundant (1k)
Post #109 Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:06 am 
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Hoy, both players can look at my last post. Why did neither of you expect/want that sort've sequence ? Please share your wisdom, as KGS tells me that now, both of you are considerably stronger than me.

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 Post subject: Re: 92: Emerus (4k) vs. Redundant (1k)
Post #110 Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:33 am 
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I can't argue with your variation for W. F10 area seems worth taking sente for. I'm very unsure of the best way to take sente as B; my first plan was maybe better than the game.

Redundant can explain his reasoning better but the reason that I didn't expect W to play a variation like yours is that it is giving B profit for free. It's a faster way of playing for white and black can naturally secure points. So I didn't give it a second thought. It seems good.

(I think you beat me handily last time.... how does that make me any stronger?)
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 Post subject: Re: 92: Emerus (4k) vs. Redundant (1k)
Post #111 Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:41 pm 
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I didn't play that way, because I didn't want the painful result locally, and I think the clamp aji is enough to reduce/invade the left side.

Now I just have to find the time to work out how I'm going to do that :D
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 Post subject: Re: 92: Emerus (4k) vs. Redundant (1k)
Post #112 Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:54 pm 
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Oh, yeah, I was misreading KGS graphs somehow (which is a profound faculty of mine).

Right, so, I was underestimating Redundant's play because it was c. 10 points in reverse sente and I always have trouble appreciating reverse sente's bigness. How joseki-y was this sequence, anyway ? I guess joseki are hazy when black has such local support. I do just know "of" the first few moves moreso than knowing them :P.

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Post #113 Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:28 pm 
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Loons wrote:
How joseki-y was this sequence, anyway ? I guess joseki are hazy when black has such local support. I do just know "of" the first few moves moreso than knowing them :P.


I think that the distant attack at f3 rather than the hane at e3 is used with support towards the right. (For instance I know it's joseki with a stone at h3). I think the way to take certain sente for B is to tenuki after f2 but the way I played is another way that usually takes sente.
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Post #114 Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:04 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . O . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X X O O O X O X . X O O X O . |
$$ | . O O O O X O . X X O X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X . , O O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X O O X . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O X X O . . . O O . . X . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X X . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . , . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . X X . . X . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . O . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X X O O O X O X . X O O X O . |
$$ | . O O O O X O . X X O X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X . , O O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X O O X . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O X X O . . . O O . . X . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X X 2 . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . , . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . X X . . X . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't think this is too deep. I get a nice reduction here, but need to worry about my bottom right group.
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 Post subject: Re: 92: Emerus (4k) vs. Redundant (1k)
Post #115 Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:39 pm 
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[go]$$cm1 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . O . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X X O O O X O X . X O O X O . |
$$ | . O O O O X O . X X O X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X . , O O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X O O X . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O X X O . . . O O . . X . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X X 1 . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . , . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . X X . . X . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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 Post subject: Re: 92: Emerus (4k) vs. Redundant (1k)
Post #116 Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:50 pm 
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[go]$$cm1 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . O . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X X O O O X O X . X O O X O . |
$$ | . O O O O X O . X X O X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X . , O O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X O O X . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O X X O . . . O O . . X . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X X X . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . , . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . X X . . X . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Not sure if this is deep enough, but it's safe.
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 Post subject: Re: 92: Emerus (4k) vs. Redundant (1k)
Post #117 Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:56 pm 
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[go]$$cm1 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . O . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X X O O O X O X . X O O X O . |
$$ | . O O O O X O . X X O X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X . , O O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X O O X . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O X X O . . . O O . . X . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . X . 1 . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X X X . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . , . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . X X . . X . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I haven't done a second of reading but no matter what, I'm too thick for him to live directly. So I will build a wall facing the bad aji in his influence.
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 Post subject: Re: 92: Emerus (4k) vs. Redundant (1k)
Post #118 Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:07 pm 
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[go]$$cm1 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . O . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X X O O O X O X . X O O X O . |
$$ | . O O O O X O . X X O X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X . , O O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X O O X . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O X X O . . . O O . . X . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . X . X . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . W . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X X X . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . , . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . X X . . X . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

He will gain little from this attack. He must keep splitting me from my top thickness to keep up the pressure, so he won't gain the strength needed to attack my bottom group.
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 Post subject: Re: 92: Emerus (4k) vs. Redundant (1k)
Post #119 Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:11 pm 
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[go]$$cm1 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . O . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X X O O O X O X . X O O X O . |
$$ | . O O O O X O . X X O X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X . , O O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X O O X . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O X X O . . . O O . . X . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . X . 1 . 3 . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . W . 2 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X X X . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . , . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . X X . . X . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Tengen!
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 Post subject: Re: 92: Emerus (4k) vs. Redundant (1k)
Post #120 Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:22 pm 
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[go]$$cm1 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . O . O . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X X O O O X O X . X O O X O . |
$$ | . O O O O X O . X X O X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X . , O O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X O O X . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O X X O . . . O O . . X . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . X . X . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . O . W . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X X X . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . , . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . X X . . X . O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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