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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)
Post #101 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:38 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O O . O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X 6 . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . O . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I wonder if he'll respond. My peep protects against his cut.

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Offline Chew Terr
 Post subject: Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)
Post #102 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:46 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . 7 . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O O . O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X X . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . O . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



Going to see if I can force here and try to make territory on the top. We'll see. Might be asking too much, but I feel like pushing from the other side doesn't work either, and this leaves at least some chance of profit.

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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)
Post #103 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:50 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O O 8 O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X X . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . O . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Interesting response...

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)
Post #104 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:10 pm 
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for obs only:
cut doesnt work...
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[go]$$Wcm89 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O 6 X 7 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X 5 4 8 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X 3 2 1 . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . 9 O O B O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X X . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . O . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Chew Terr
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Post #105 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:35 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . 9 . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O O X O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X X . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . O . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wc Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O b X a . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X 5 4 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X 3 2 1 . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . c O O X O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X d X X O X X . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . O . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

If black 'a', then white 'c', black 'b', and white 'd'. If black 'b', I'll take 'a', then atari again, then cut at 'c' to kill the cutting stones. I think black 'a' is scarier. Regardless, I read that I could fight the cut, so here goes!

Trigger:
If H11, G11.

If you took the first trigger, second trigger:
If H12, G12.

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Offline Kirby
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Post #106 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 4:10 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . 0 9 . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O O X O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X X . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . O . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm90 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . 4 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X 3 2 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X 1 X O . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O O X O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X X . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . O . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't know for sure if this works or not, but why not give it a shot?

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Offline Marcus
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Post #107 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:48 pm 
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For observers only:

This is quite an interesting position ... here's an interesting line ...

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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . a O O X O X O . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . 1 O O X O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X 3 X X O X X . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 8 4 5 0 O X . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O 6 O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . 7 9 O X X . O . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


:w10: sets up a shortage of liberties starting at a ... which means White must defend ...

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[go]$$Wcm11 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O X O . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O O O X O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O X X . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X O X . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O 1 O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . 2 . O O O X X . O . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


And White seems essentially dead ... I'm sure I'm issing some simpler/better lines ... this is just the intersting one that stood out to me ...


Last edited by Marcus on Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:45 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Offline perceval
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Post #108 Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:51 am 
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I don't know for sure if this works or not, but why not give it a shot?


.. because you are ahead and you will be behind if your cutting stones are taken ?
This line doesnt strike me as risk free
of course it is fun .....
but i had the impression that kirby wanted the warm comfort of a game when he is ahead, here he will have the cold sweat of the terror of miscalculation (it might work of course ... who ami to judge ? but i bet he will stress before the end)

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Offline Chew Terr
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Post #109 Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:24 am 
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[go]$$Wcm90 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O 8 X 6 X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O X 5 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O X O . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . 7 O O X O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X 9 X X O X X . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . O . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Feel free to accept or deny any portion of this trigger.
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Offline Kirby
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Post #110 Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:01 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O X O . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O O O X O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O X X . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 0 . . O X . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . O . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I wonder how many eyes he'll get.

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Offline Chew Terr
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Post #111 Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:10 am 
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[go]$$Wcm100 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O X O . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O O O X O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O X X . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X 1 . O X . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . O . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Trigger:
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[go]$$Wcm100 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O X O . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O O O X O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O X X . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 X 1 . O X . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O 3 O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . O . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Let's see how it looks. The trigger is just to gain liberties. Honestly, I'm not sure I can win this one. I can't live internally, and I just don't have that many liberties. For example, even F8 is sente. I thought about playing F8 because of that, but don't really see a reason to, besides removing a ko threat from both sides. Obviously, if I lose this fight, I resign.

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Post #112 Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:16 am 
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[go]$$Wcm100 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O X O . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O O O X O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O X X . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O X . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O 2 O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . O . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'll try for this instead, Chew.

Aiming to give him fewer liberties.

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Post #113 Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:30 am 
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[go]$$Wcm100 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O X O . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O O O X O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O X X . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 4 X O 6 O X . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . 8 C X O 7 O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . 9 0 3 5 O X X . O . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wcm110 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O X O . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O 1 O O O X O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O C C O X X . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O C O X . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X O O O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O O O X X . O . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



Wondered, but I wasn't sure how much difference there was. I guess it's a bit better for you liberties-wise? Hope you don't mind I am putting so much into triggers, but all of this looks so one-way to me.

About to resign.

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Post #114 Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:35 am 
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Hey, Chew... I want to do this, instead:

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[go]$$Wcm100 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X O X O . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O O O X O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X O X X . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 4 X O 6 O X . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O 7 O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . 8 . 3 5 O X X . O . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Sorry, missed that move order, too. Regardless, I resign. Thank you for the game.

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Thanks for the game, Chew. I took a risk by cutting you, I think.

It was an interesting game to play, though. I had a lot of fun.

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Yeah, maybe we can play another sometime, after I've had time to review this one for a while and nurse my wounds. =(

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I kind of liked White's position around here:
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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . b O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . a . . . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . 9 . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I was afraid of you getting large moyos on the top and bottom. Plus, the shape around 'b' is ugly for Black, imo.

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Chew Terr wrote:
Yeah, maybe we can play another sometime, after I've had time to review this one for a while and nurse my wounds. =(


Sure thing. I'll have to nurse the wounds I have from the other games I'm in, too.

I'm going to do my best not to get hurt anymore... :-S

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Yeah, I REALLY wanted 'b', but could never convince myself it was QUITE sente enough. Maybe it was, though...

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