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by Boidhre Tue May 22, 2012 8:52 pm
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by Drewch Mon May 28, 2012 8:23 am
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by Boidhre Mon May 28, 2012 9:24 am
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Shape. The continuation gives him a lot of thickness. I don't mind being pressed down here so much because to continue the pushing match just gives him two strong facing walls. I prefer to have better shape for my bottom centre group at the cost of giving him thickness. As someone said to me really, go is about giving the other person 45%.
gives the group abundant eye shape as well as threatening to link up with my group on the left side.
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by Drewch Mon May 28, 2012 10:22 am
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by Boidhre Mon May 28, 2012 10:23 am
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by Drewch Mon May 28, 2012 10:29 am
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by Boidhre Mon May 28, 2012 10:42 am
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by jts Mon May 28, 2012 10:53 am
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by Boidhre Mon May 28, 2012 10:55 am
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by Drewch Mon May 28, 2012 10:58 am
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by Boidhre Mon May 28, 2012 11:18 am
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by EdLee Mon May 28, 2012 11:47 am
Boidhre,
Boidhre wrote: A hane at Q15 would be a decent follow-up.
jts wrote: Generally a hane refers to a diagonal attachment move when you're left with a cutting point. The move you're referring to is generally called a "turn".
Boidhre wrote: Thanks jts, I did not know the distinction in terms.
You probably already know this: in general -- except for the usual infinite exceptions
--
the Q15 solid turn shape is much thicker than the hane.
For example, in this standard sequence,
connecting at (a) is a big move for B;
likewise, if
tenuki, then
cutting at (a) is also a big move for W.
(
connecting at (a) changes the hane shape to the solid "turn" shape.)
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$jts wrote: As no doubt knew already, they have slightly different implications.
Perhaps jts was being modest, but in general (again except for the infinite exceptions
),
the implications are much more than "slightly".
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by Boidhre Mon May 28, 2012 11:52 am
EdLee wrote: Boidhre,
Boidhre wrote: A hane at Q15 would be a decent follow-up.
jts wrote: Generally a hane refers to a diagonal attachment move when you're left with a cutting point. The move you're referring to is generally called a "turn".
Boidhre wrote: Thanks jts, I did not know the distinction in terms.
You probably already know this: in general -- except for the usual infinite exceptions
--
the Q15 solid turn shape is much thicker than the hane.
For example, in this standard sequence,
connecting at (a) is a big move for B;
likewise, if
tenuki, then
cutting at (a) is also a big move for W.
(
connecting at (a) changes the hane shape to the solid "turn" shape.)
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$jts wrote: As no doubt knew already, they have slightly different implications.
Perhaps jts was being modest, but in general (again except for the infinite exceptions
),
the implications are much more than "slightly".
Ed,
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by jts Mon May 28, 2012 1:37 pm
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by Drewch Mon May 28, 2012 6:17 pm
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gives the group abundant eye shape as well as threatening to link up with my group on the left side. 
connecting at (a) is a big move for B;
cutting at (a) is also a big move for W.