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Offline cloud
 Post subject: Re: 102. Shaddy (3d?) vs. cloud (3d)
Post #81 Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:19 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm62 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X O |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . 2 . . O , O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , X . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

To SDK and lower dan players: I hope a move like this comes to your mind immediately when you see this type of position. I think a lot of players in situations like this tend to over-think the position, but when there is a move this obvious it is usually right. There is really no need to read here either- this move is great shape, helps the more important white stones, and puts pressure on the black group in the center. You might look at L10 or some other type of extension as basically doing the same thing, but the reason that a move like this is so important is that there is no bad aji.
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Offline Puppycakes
 Post subject: Re: 102. Shaddy (3d?) vs. cloud (3d)
Post #82 Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:16 am 
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I would think of that move if there wasn't already a stone at m12. Meaning that I could possibly take M12 if black didn't respond. Now black gets to peep at n9 and white ends up with inefficient shape. I probably would have played something like n9 to make a table shape myself.
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 Post subject: Re: 102. Shaddy (3d?) vs. cloud (3d)
Post #83 Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:29 am 
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Post #84 Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:32 pm 
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I　ｌｉｋｅ　ｔｈｅ　ｇａｍｅ　ｍｏｖｅ　ｍｏｒｅ　ｔｈａｎ　ｔｈｅ　ｔａｂｌｅ　ｓｈａｐｅ，　ｂｅｃａｕｓｅ　ｗｉｔｈ　ａ　ｔａｂｌｅ　ｓｈａｐｅ　ｂｌａｃｋ　ｃａｎ　ｍａｋｅ　ａｎ　ａｔｔａｃｋｉｎｇ　ｐｅｅｐ　ａｔ　ｔｈｅ　ｏｎｅ－ｓｐａｃｅ　ｊｕｍｐ。 The peep I'm allowed here does not really have attacking meaning to it.
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Offline cloud
 Post subject: Re: 102. Shaddy (3d?) vs. cloud (3d)
Post #85 Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:46 pm 
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The table shape is better for defense, but it puts no pressure on black. White needs to attack here instead of just defending passively, especially in an area where black is already very strong (the lower right corner).
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Offline Shaddy
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Post #86 Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:19 pm 
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Hmm, the thing I would like to do most right now would be to swallow the three white stones. Black's position would be perfectly thick, and the game would be over.. unfortunately I can't find a way to kill them. More thinking..
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Post #87 Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:13 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm62 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X O |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . 2 . . O , O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , X . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

To SDK and lower dan players: I hope a move like this comes to your mind immediately when you see this type of position. I think a lot of players in situations like this tend to over-think the position, but when there is a move this obvious it is usually right. There is really no need to read here either- this move is great shape, helps the more important white stones, and puts pressure on the black group in the center. You might look at L10 or some other type of extension as basically doing the same thing, but the reason that a move like this is so important is that there is no bad aji.


seriously?
white's last move looks UGLY!
black is spliting two white group which means one will die...
and i see that he is planning to save both group..very kyuish thought.

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Post #88 Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:01 am 
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I am not at all worried about the three white stones dying. Black's center group is just as weak as mine and I control the whole left side of the board.
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Post #89 Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:00 am 
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[go]$$Bcm62 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . a O . O O X X O |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , a 2 . . O , O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . a . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , X . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The shape of W63 makes me cringe. Locally, any of the a points is better shape, but some reading is required.

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 102. Shaddy (3d?) vs. cloud (3d)
Post #90 Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:17 am 
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[go]$$Bcm62 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . a O . O O X X O |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , a 2 . . O , O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . a . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , X . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The shape of W63 makes me cringe. Locally, any of the a points is better shape, but some reading is required.

i agree with any 'a' being better.
i did some reading with other 'a's and white's shape is already bad and can not find any good result.

i think below is the best result for white but still look bad for white.
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[go]$$Bcm62 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 3 . X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X O |
$$ | . . . , . . . . 4 , 2 . . . O , O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , X . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #91 Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:22 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm62 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , 3 . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X O |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . O . . O , O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , X . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Since I am unable to find a way to lean constructively, I will simply shore up the weakness on top and leave the middle group to fend. It's not quite time to peep at n9 yet because I might want l10 later. (if white plays something around l10 I will immediately peep)
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Post #92 Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:53 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm62 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 4 O O O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X O |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . O . . O , O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , X . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Jumping looks sketchy.
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Post #93 Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:14 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm62 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O O O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 5 . X . X O X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X O |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . O . . O , O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , X . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Not jumping looks sketchier.
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Post #94 Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:34 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm62 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 6 O O O O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . X . X O X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X O |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . O . . O , O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , X . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #95 Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:06 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O O O O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 7 X . X . X O X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X O |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . O . . O , O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , X . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 8 O O O O O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X . X . X O X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X O |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . O . . O , O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
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Post #97 Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:35 pm 
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Post #98 Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:05 pm 
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Post #100 Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:59 pm 
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Wish I could hane. Oh well, sente.
My judgment of the position:
I'd like to invade the top right corner soon. After that, a count- I have ~6 points in that corner, 10 in the bottom right, 30ish in the bottom left, 20ish in the top right. 76 in total. White has 20 in the bottom left, 10 or so on the right, 20 or 30 up top. Generously, that is 60 points, and each player has a weak group- I think black is leading slightly. The problems are: I'd like to add a move on the left side soon so that I don't get sealed in, and I don't know that the 3-3 invasion is sente. I'll start by attacking the weak central group, I think, and get sente to go from there.
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