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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)
Post #81 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:14 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . X 1 X . . . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . 2 3 O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I briefly thought about this move:
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[go]$$Bcm51 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . B X X X . . . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O , O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


But I am happy enough to just play a normal splitting move.

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Offline Chew Terr
 Post subject: Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)
Post #82 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:38 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . 4 X X X . . . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This was the intent of the previous move or two. Let's see if it's enough.

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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: 120. Kirby versus Chew(2k?)
Post #83 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:41 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X . . . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . 5 X . . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Sure. I'm OK with that.

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Offline Chew Terr
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Post #84 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:54 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X 6 . . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I probably just botched this whole region/board. However, if my opponent's not careful, I MIGHT get to cut at d3? If not, I'll try one last drastic effort before resigning.

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Post #85 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:58 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 7 . . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't really see what his plan is. This seems to split his group.

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Offline Chew Terr
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Post #86 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:03 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 8 7 . . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



Trying to see a little further where this goes.

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Offline Kirby
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Post #87 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:09 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X 9 . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Maybe he is going for this:
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . 9 . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 8 7 . . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X 0 . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


It's tempting to just play this:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . 4 . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O 2 . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O 1 . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . . 3 . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


But I don't like the :b1: :w2: exchange. Let's keep the aji there.

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Post #88 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:11 pm 
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I am seeing things. This diagram is no good:
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . 9 . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 8 7 . . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O . . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O C . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X 0 . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Because I can just play the marked spot. Maybe I could have gotten a better result. Oh well, I am happy enough.

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Post #89 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:26 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm70 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . 1 . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X 2 . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O 3 . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Phew, the threat was enough that he let me out. I still got very little from this. Maybe I can find a way to make territory in the middle?

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Post #90 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:30 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm70 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 5 6 . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . 1 4 . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X 2 . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O 3 . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


As usual, reject the trigger if you'd like.

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Post #91 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:50 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm70 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . 9 . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X 7 8 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 5 6 . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . 1 4 . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X 2 . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O 3 . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This gives black a wall, but it's eyeless. I see no way for black to capture me outright, as if we go far enough, F12 could die. As a result, I'll run as far north as black wants to push, then escape and at least see if I can counterattack. D11 is getting really... interesting right now. Capturing D11 is small, but at least it would make my groups safe.

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Post #92 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:55 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm70 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O 0 . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I guess this move is obvious...

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Post #93 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:02 pm 
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Can you guys only mark or number the previously played move? I keep looking for sequences that aren't there.
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Post #94 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:03 pm 
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I updated the last post.

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Post #95 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:06 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O 1 . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

ImageNow, to see how my opponent responds, and try to counterattack if possible.

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Post #96 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:10 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O O . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . 2 . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This move seems weird, but I didn't want the following:
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[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O 1 3 , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X . 2 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Laman
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Post #97 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:13 pm 
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if the black center group come under a white's large scale attack, the game can become again interesting. i suppose black should be safe, but white can make him to prove it

black has at least two moves to make his group comfortable:

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[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O O . , a . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . B . b . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #98 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:24 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O O . 3 . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . 2 . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Helps my weak group, threatens to cut black's jump. Depending on the black response, I am considering moves to chase or seal the black weak stones.

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Post #99 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:27 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O O . O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X . . . 4 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I wanted to play on top, but I don't like this picture:
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[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . 4 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O O . 3 . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X . . . 5 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . 2 . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . . . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #100 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:35 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . , O . . O . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O O . O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O X . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X . 5 . . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . O , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . O . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



Okay, this seems to prevent black from getting eyespace here, and it's sente against the life of the 4 stones. For now, I think that's enough. Additionally, it starts to make me points below, which I need urgently. Next, I'll have to decide between chasing black or just trying to use forcing moves to make as many points as I can.

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