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 Post subject: Re: #237 DJLLAP vs tj86430
Post #101 Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 11:21 am 
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Post #102 Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 12:57 pm 
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Post #103 Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 10:51 pm 
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Post #104 Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 9:01 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Well, I might get a slightly better result with R15, but it is riskier, and with this move I guarantee that my weak group(s) will be connected. And, I don't think he can make too many points in the top right.

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Post #105 Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 11:59 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



I think this group at the worst is a ko for life now. the harshest line of resistance I found for B is the clamp at S14, but I think I might be able to revert that to B's response at R15.


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Post #106 Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 1:00 pm 
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That was a move I didn't anticipate. Now I can continue with previous plan and play P12, capturing two stones and connecting my groups, but giving him a bit more territory than I had planned to. OTOH, I can play R15, keeping him disconnected and trying to kill the whole lot - and, if failing to do so, potentially having a whole lot of trouble to save my stones from L10 all the way to R16.

I will have to try to do some reading, I guess.

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Post #107 Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 4:29 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


It would probably be safest to take the two white stones, but this way I'll probably learn more. And, if my reading is correct, I may be able to kill his R12 group. If I play P12, it seems that he will be able to make small life on the side and/or connect to R17.


DJLLAP, I'm off to 1,5 weeks vacation, so my playing is going to continue to be slow, I'm afraid.

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Post #108 Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 1:39 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think this is necessary before starting the ko. If he tries to kill outright instead of allowing a ko, I think I can capture a lot of stones. But I might have missed a key move or something.

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Post #109 Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 1:47 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think this is the only move to make sure that group stays connected. White can of course force me to make an ugly dumpling by e.g.

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[go]$$Bcm72 Black: 0 , White: 0
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$$ | . . . . . . . X . X X X . O . O O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . O . O 8 9 X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 7 X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . B 5 X 6 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 2 3 X O O O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . O X O O O . . X X . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . O . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

but there will be lots of cutting points and I'm hoping I can win the fight

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Post #110 Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 6:04 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . O . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . X 4 . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X O O O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Time to make ko. There should be a ton of threats, so I feel good about this groups chances, and if it lives, there might be a huge capturing race between my cut off group on bottom and his on top.

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Post #111 Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 10:55 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X X X . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O O O X . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . O . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X O O O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I need to stay connected.

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Post #112 Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 10:28 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X X X . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O O O X . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . O . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X O O O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O O X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I did lot of reading for this move. W can live on the side unconditionally by playing 'a'. But by doing so, gives up sente to be destroyed in the center and bottom. I am too far behind to be playing it safe. Black cannot kill by playing at 'b', so the result should be a ko. I really wish I had an extra move to reinforce the cut at c. If I respond to a ko threat there, there will be many more to follow.

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[go]$$Bcm70 Black: 0 , White: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X X X . O . O O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O O O X . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . O . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O a . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . b . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X X O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X O O O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X c . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . O . . . . . . . |
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Post #113 Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:47 am 
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My desktop machine where I had all the reading I had done earlier is currently in an unusable state, and I don't know exactly when I will have time to get it up and running. Can you wait a bit more?

If not, I will just make a move without reading based on gut feeling.

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Post #114 Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:21 am 
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Sure, take your time.

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Post #115 Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 1:30 am 
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After lots of computer problems as well as other things keeping me busy, I'm back (I hope)

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I didn't read much, but this looks like a good idea. Let's hope it is. It should protect my weak spots as well as threaten to cut his top group. Also, it should help capturing the L12 stones, if that becomes necessary.

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Post #116 Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 1:20 pm 
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We'll see how this goes.
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Post #117 Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:04 am 
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This is better than I projected. I don't think B can avoid ko now.

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