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Offline cobrahc
 Post subject: Re: #242 : siowy vs cobrahc
Post #41 Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:35 am 
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[go]$$c Move 34
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$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . , . X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Later I will have to try and reduce this huge area that 'im giving' to black. :~
After the bottom/right is settled... Where should I play afterwards if I keep sente?
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[go]$$
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . b . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . c . . , . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . X . O . . a . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . , . X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline skydyr
 Post subject: Re: #242 : siowy vs cobrahc
Post #42 Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:19 am 
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cobrahc wrote:
Is he going to follow the joseki? I want to close this in sente.

After a point, it's not a question of _the_ joseki so much as _which_ joseki, which is predicated on what black wants out of the situation. There are different josekis to choose from depending on what is more important to you: Direction, thickness, territory, follow-ups, sente, etc.

In this case, the joseki everyone learns first (http://senseis.xmp.net/?44Point33InvasionJoseki#toc3) seems fine, as black is happy to turn his moyo mostly into territory, and I'm not sure what white would do that's so big with sente. Black may be able to try to take sente without much loss because of the left side stone, but this does complicate the bottom a bit.
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Offline siowy
 Post subject: Re: #242 : siowy vs cobrahc
Post #43 Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 6:43 am 
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I took a short trip overseas. Sorry for not notifying you beforehand.

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[go]$$c Move 35
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$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . , . X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X B O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Here I'm going 180 degrees. I think I'd rather settle the bottom right cleanly than take sente here. Not sure what white can do here to deviate from the regular sequence.
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Offline cobrahc
 Post subject: Re: #242 : siowy vs cobrahc
Post #44 Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:23 am 
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Hi siowy, no problem about that. I hope you enjoyed your trip.

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[go]$$Wc Move 36
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$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . , . X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O W . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This really look bad for me. For some reason I though I would keep sente after the 3x3 invasion.

What is he going to do next?
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[go]$$Wc Move 36
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$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . b a . . , . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . , . X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline siowy
 Post subject: Re: #242 : siowy vs cobrahc
Post #45 Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:50 pm 
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[go]$$Wc Move 37
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$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . , . X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . B X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm fine with the joseki result, even if it ends in gote for me.
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Offline cobrahc
 Post subject: Re: #242 : siowy vs cobrahc
Post #46 Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:15 pm 
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[go]$$Wc Move 38
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$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . , . X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Initially, I tried some reduction on the bottom and bottom right side.
After a few tries I noticed that black can use all the weakness of my group in the top right side to build a bigger wall.
So I decided to reduce the up side first to make my group stronger.

On the top part im afraid something like this... and the sequence afterwards (I tried a lot of variations but black could always benefit from it)
Im not afraid to lose the two marked stones.. but I think I cant give up on the whole group.


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[go]$$Wc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . b . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 8 9 3 . 4 X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . c . O 2 P P X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X 5 X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 a . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . 1 . . , . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . , . X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Black is far away ahead. I did a really poor job in the fuseki.
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Offline siowy
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Post #47 Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:29 pm 
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[go]$$Wc Move 39
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . , . X . . . . . X X B . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wc Move 39
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . 1 X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . z . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . , . X . . . . . X X B . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I play a sente move against the LR corner. A follow up at 2-2 should kill the corner. If he reacts in the LR, then I can go back to block at the top.

If he plays the 1-2 exchange, it would help solidify my UR corner against 3-3 invasion anyway, so I think that's okay. The connection between his stones is also still weak at z.
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Post #48 Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:32 pm 
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[go]$$Wc Move 40
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . , . X . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X X X O O W . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Needed to keep it alive... I guess. Im getting upset with myself with all the 'i guess' or 'i think'.
At the same time its good so I know things I need to take a look later. :D
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Offline siowy
 Post subject: Re: #242 : siowy vs cobrahc
Post #49 Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:48 pm 
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[go]$$Wc Move 41
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . B X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . , . X . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


As planned. I think this is good for me.
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Post #50 Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:26 am 
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[go]$$Wc Move 42
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X W X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . , . X . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I want to create some aji before trying to do something to the right side.
I think he will fix one of the cuts and leave me with sente.
What If he tenuki? That would be fun.

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[go]$$Wc Move 42
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O 3 O O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X 1 X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . 5 . . , . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . X . O . . . b . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . , . X . a . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I wonder if, instead of 5, 'a' or 'b' would work.
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Offline siowy
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Post #51 Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:40 am 
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[go]$$Wc Move 43
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . , . X . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


After reinforcing here later, I think the LR area is as good as territory.
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Post #52 Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:54 am 
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[go]$$Wc Move 44
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O W O O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . , . X . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Following up. I still think `a` that I mentioned in my previous post is a good idea.
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Offline siowy
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Post #53 Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:24 pm 
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[go]$$Wc Move 45
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . B X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . , . X . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Looks like the best place to reinforce.
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Offline skydyr
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Post #54 Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:29 pm 
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I wonder if white's group is strong enough to allow him to take F18 in sente and then steal black's corner?
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Post #55 Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:15 am 
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[go]$$Wc Move 46
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . W . . , . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . , . X . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Because of those 2 big walls facing each other on the right side, I've to invade carefully. I also wants it to help me get some influence on the middle.
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Post #56 Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 7:28 am 
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been busy and will be busy until tomorrow, when i reply with a move.
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Post #57 Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:23 am 
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Dont worry about it. Take your time.
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Post #58 Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:29 am 
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[go]$$Wc Move 47
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O B . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . , . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . , . X . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wc Move 47
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O B . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . 3 1 2 . . O . . , . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . X 4 O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . , . X . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This would be nice.
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Offline Uberdude
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Post #59 Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:45 am 
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siowy wrote:

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[go]$$Wc Move 47
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O B . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . 3 1 2 . . O . . , . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . X 4 O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . , . X . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This would be nice.


It's is indeed nice when your opponent punches themselves in the face. But in amateur Go that is rather more common than in boxing.
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Post #60 Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:49 pm 
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[go]$$Wc Move 48
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . W . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . , . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . , . X . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I know I cant stop an invasion on the left side (e.g.: e). My idea here is see whats his plan is. I want to get sente to do something on the right side or center (a, b, or something else). I think my group on the middle isnt that weak.. since I can try to connect on both sides (e.g: c, d) and, if he blocks both, I think I will have enough space for 2 eyes... or maybe run to the group on top.
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[go]$$Wc Move 48
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . e . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . b . O O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . W . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O . a , . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . , . X . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . c . . d . . . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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