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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: Malk #19 - magicwand (3d) vs. Dusk Eagle (1k)
Post #61 Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:02 pm 
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[go]$$c Move 103
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X X . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . O O X . O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . W X X . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . X O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . . . . X X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i had to play there to eliminate the bad aji 100%

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: Malk #19 - magicwand (3d) vs. Dusk Eagle (1k)
Post #62 Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:36 am 
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[go]$$Wc this is what i dont like
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X X . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . O O X . O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | 7 X O O . . X X . . 1 . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . O 6 4 2 X O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 5 3 O O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . . . . X X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$c i guess what i played is not a smart play because he can still have 3. that means i have to take that one stone and give him sente. that is not good... so i guess i tried eliminate bad aji and created worse aji.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X X . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . O O X . O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X 1 . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . W X X . . 2 . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . 3 . X O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . . . . X X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Dusk Eagle
 Post subject: Re: Malk #19 - magicwand (3d) vs. Dusk Eagle (1k)
Post #63 Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:37 pm 
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[go]$$c Move 104
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X X . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . O O X . O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X B . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O X X . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . X O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . . . . X X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Not much choice here.

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: Malk #19 - magicwand (3d) vs. Dusk Eagle (1k)
Post #64 Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:45 pm 
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[go]$$c Move 105
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X X . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . O O X . O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X X . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O W O X X . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . X O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . . . . X X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i didnt have to give up my sente but i played badly.

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Offline Dusk Eagle
 Post subject: Re: Malk #19 - magicwand (3d) vs. Dusk Eagle (1k)
Post #65 Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:06 pm 
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[go]$$c Move 106
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X X . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . O O X . O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X X . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O X X B . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . X O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . . . . X X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Protects against the cut at 'a'.
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X X . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . O O X . O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X X a . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O X X . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . X O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . . . . X X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Last edited by Kirby on Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.
fixed your hide tag

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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: Malk #19 - magicwand (3d) vs. Dusk Eagle (1k)
Post #66 Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:14 pm 
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Hey, Dusk Eagle. I fixed your hide tag for you. I thought that if I asked you to do it, Magicwand might see your post before you got my message. I hope you don't mind - I can change it back if you'd like.

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Offline Dusk Eagle
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Post #67 Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:29 pm 
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Thanks Kirby. Honestly, there's nothing too secret about what I said just there, so it wouldn't matter if Magicwand had seen it. Still, thanks for taking the time to fix it - I normally preview my posts first, but I forgot to this time.

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: Malk #19 - magicwand (3d) vs. Dusk Eagle (1k)
Post #68 Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 4:13 am 
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[go]$$c Move 107
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X X . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . O O X . O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X X . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O X X X . W . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . X O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . . . . X X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$c a, b, c are some of the points i want.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X X . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O . b . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . O O X . O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . . . . O X . X O O a . |
$$ | . O X X X X . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O X X X . W . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . X O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O c . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . . . . X X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Dusk Eagle
 Post subject: Re: Malk #19 - magicwand (3d) vs. Dusk Eagle (1k)
Post #69 Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 12:40 pm 
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I resign. I can't catch up from here.

Good game Magicwand!

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Post #70 Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 12:56 pm 
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Thank you players! Magicwand, I love your style - "I do not know if my move works. But it feels right, so I will overwhelm my opponent with my power and rugged movie-star looks." :mrgreen:

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: Malk #19 - magicwand (3d) vs. Dusk Eagle (1k)
Post #71 Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 3:29 pm 
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Thank you players! Magicwand, I love your style - "I do not know if my move works. But it feels right, so I will overwhelm my opponent with my power and rugged movie-star looks." :mrgreen:


thank you.
i have played badly in this game.
i am really not satisfied with my playing in this game.
i should have ended the game long time ago and gave him too many chances to come back.
next time i play someone stronger then they will not be so forgiving.

i will try to discuss what i see after careful review.

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Offline Dusk Eagle
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Post #72 Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 6:35 pm 
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It's quite interesting reading through the comments now. I made many mistakes in this game, but it's like he noticed them a couple of moves before I did. I will definitely learn from this game :D .

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Post #73 Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 9:35 pm 
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I enjoyed watching the game.

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Post #74 Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 8:20 am 
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I agree, interesting game to watch.

I am wondering about the correct way to exploit the weakness if white would not answer here - must be something like this:

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[go]$$c Black moves first
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X X . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . O O X . O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . X . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . 7 . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . 4 3 . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . 1 O 5 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #75 Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 6:22 pm 
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I agree, interesting game to watch.

I am wondering about the correct way to exploit the weakness if white would not answer here - must be something like this:

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[go]$$c Black moves first
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X X . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
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$$ | . O O O X . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . X . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . 7 . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . 4 3 . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . 1 O 5 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


i will try to give you the answer i think is correct..
first: i am ahead enough so i would have defended the corner.
second: if i was not ahead i would have tryed to kill them all.
i will say its got 50% chance of living and 50% chance of living.
let me see ...
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$$ | 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X X . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . O O X . O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . X . . . . O . . O . . . |
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$$ | . . . , O O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . 9 . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . 6 0 . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O 7 8 . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . X . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O 1 2 . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . O X 4 . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . X O X 3 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O 5 . . |
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ok maybe more than 50% chance of living...
but i am giving you only one simple variation.
there are toomany variable for me to say it is dead or alive.

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 Post subject: Re: Malk #19 - magicwand (3d) vs. Dusk Eagle (1k)
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