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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: magicwand versus drmwc
Post #201 Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:21 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm131 B has captured 8; W has captured 3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . 4 . 1 X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X 3 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O 2 O . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O X O . , O X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O X O O O X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O O . . . X . 5 . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X X O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X . . X O O . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . 6 . X . . X . X X O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X . . O . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . O X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
if he plays something like this... i would have gone deep and it is BIG...
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[go]$$Bcm131 B has captured 8; W has captured 3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . 4 . 1 X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X 3 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O 2 O . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O X O . , O X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O X O O O X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X X X . . . 6 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O O . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X X O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X . . X O O . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . X X O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . 5 . O X X . X . . O . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . O X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Joaz Banbeck
 Post subject: Re: magicwand versus drmwc
Post #202 Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:24 pm 
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@MW:
Magicwand wrote:
...if he plays something like this... i would have gone deep and it is BIG...
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[go]$$Bcm131 B has captured 8; W has captured 3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . 4 . 1 X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X 3 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O 2 O . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O X O . , O X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O X O O O X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X X X . . . 6 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O O . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X X O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X . . X O O . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . X X O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . 5 . O X X . X . . O . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . O X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


MW: Why did you not just play at P13 last move if it is so big, instead of the gote at E19?

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Offline Magicwand
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Post #203 Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:04 am 
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Joaz Banbeck wrote:
@MW:
Magicwand wrote:
...if he plays something like this... i would have gone deep and it is BIG...
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[go]$$Bcm131 B has captured 8; W has captured 3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . 4 . 1 X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X 3 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O 2 O . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O X O . , O X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O X O O O X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X X X . . . 6 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O O . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X X O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . , X X . . X O O . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . X X O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . 5 . O X X . X . . O . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . O X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


MW: Why did you not just play at P13 last move if it is so big, instead of the gote at E19?
because what i plahed is also big. Semi sente.

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Post #204 Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:12 am 
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[go]$$Bcm131 B has captured 8; W has captured 3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . 4 . 1 X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X 3 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O 2 O . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O X O . , O X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O X O O O X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O O . . . X . 5 . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X X O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . 7 , X X . . X O O . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . 6 . X . . X . X X O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X . . O . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . O X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't think MW can link undeneath, so my move is arguably small. But it's the area with the most aji for me.

Next:

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[go]$$W
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O 0 X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O O . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O X O . , O X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O X O O O X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 7 O O . . . O X X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . 6 . . . X . O O . . . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X X O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X , X X . . X O O . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . 8 O . X . . X . X X O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . 9 . O X X . X . . O . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . O X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X . 1 . . 5 O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . 3 2 O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


W 1 is big. However, I can cut at 2 in sente. Then 6 is my sente. 8 is big, and the reply at 9 is huge. So I get sente to play at 10.

If this happens, compared to the last count:

B has around nearly 50 points top right; around 20 lower right; around 7 lower left; and a minimum of 16 in the centre. This gives a total of 93.

W's lower group is around 25. Top left is around 20 points. Centre is around 10 points. Total: 55 points plus komi.

I lead by nearly 30 points. My counting is inaccurate, but it's not that bad. I wander what MW makes of the score at the moment.
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Offline Magicwand
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Post #205 Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:21 am 
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[go]$$Bcm131 B has captured 8; W has captured 3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . 4 8 1 X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X 3 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O 2 O . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O X O . , O X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O X O O O X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O O . . . X . 5 . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X X O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . 7 , X X . . X O O . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . 6 . X . . X . X X O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X . . O . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . O X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #206 Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:59 pm 
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A quick estimate of the position shows W is behind at least 15 points on the board. The yose seems to be in B's favor as well. Can W really recover?
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Offline Phoenix
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Post #207 Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:54 pm 
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A quick estimate of the position shows W is behind at least 15 points on the board. The yose seems to be in B's favor as well. Can W really recover?

You can be sure Magicwand will pull all the stops to try and scrape some more points. You'll see some of his crazier moves soon, I reckon. :mrgreen:
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Post #208 Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:53 pm 
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A quick estimate of the position shows W is behind at least 15 points on the board. The yose seems to be in B's favor as well. Can W really recover?

You can be sure Magicwand will pull all the stops to try and scrape some more points. You'll see some of his crazier moves soon, I reckon. :mrgreen: Scraping by up to 5 points in yose is not unheard of for mid-dan players. But white needs a lot more than that to win the game.

The way I read it, even if black plays a submissive yose, he still wins by at least 5 points (counting komi).
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Post #209 Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:35 pm 
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The way I read it, even if black plays a submissive yose, he still wins by at least 5 points (counting komi).

Sorry if there was any confusion. I absolutely agree with you. I'm only pointing out that MW likes to shake heaven and earth with all sorts of gutsy moves when he senses he's behind. You'll notice the scarcity of comments on his part. He does this when he's in trouble.

I don't doubt drmwc will win by a fair margin, and I'm certain he won't make any grave mistakes in the face of MW's struggles.
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Post #210 Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:20 am 
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[go]$$Bcm131 B has captured 8; W has captured 3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . 4 8 1 X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X 3 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O 2 O . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O X O . , O X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O X O O O X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . 9 . . . X . O O . . . X . 5 . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X X O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . 7 , X X . . X O O . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . 6 . X . . X . X X O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X . . O . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . O X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


A big move - it should be sente. Next B9 looks very big, and is nearly sente. Next I will play B9 which is also nearly sente. If W answers, I am waivering next between J2 and R8. R8 is probably smaller, but it removes aji and I don't need optimal yose to win.
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Post #211 Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:45 am 
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[go]$$Bcm131 B has captured 8; W has captured 3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . 4 8 1 X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X 3 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O 2 O . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O X O . , O X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O X O O O X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 0 O O . . . O X X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . 9 . . . X . O O . . . X . 5 . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X X O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . 7 , X X . . X O O . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . . 6 . X . . X . X X O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X . . O . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . O X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #212 Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:47 am 
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[go]$$Bcm141 B has captured 8; W has captured 3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O O . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O X O . , O X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O X O O O X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . O X X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . X . O O . . . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X X O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X , X X . . X O O . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . 1 O . X . . X . X X O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . X . . O . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . O X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #213 Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 5:55 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm141 B has captured 8; W has captured 3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O O . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O X O . , O X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O X O O O X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . O X X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . X . O O . . . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X X O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X , X X . . X O O . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . 1 O . X . . X . X X O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . 2 . O X X . X . . O . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . O X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i know i am losing. let me try to get close

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Post #214 Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:16 am 
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[go]$$Bcm141 B has captured 8; W has captured 3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O O . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O X O . , O X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O X O O O X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . O X X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . X . O O . . . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X X O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X , X X . . X O O . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . 1 O . X . . X . X X O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . 2 . O X X . X . . O . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . O X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . 3 . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



There is a mole, who lives in a hole. You like eating moles, so you want to catch the mole. There are 5 entrances to the hole, which are arranged in a line.

Once a day, you look through a hole. If the mole is directly underneath you, you capture the mole. Othewrise, the mole goes free for the day. Ovenight, the mole moves exactly one hole away from its current position to a new hole.

What strategy guarantees capturing the mole?
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Post #215 Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:43 am 
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Post #216 Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:51 am 
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drmwc wrote:
There is a mole, who lives in a hole. You like eating moles, so you want to catch the mole. There are 5 entrances to the hole, which are arranged in a line.

Once a day, you look through a hole. If the mole is directly underneath you, you capture the mole. Othewrise, the mole goes free for the day. Ovenight, the mole moves exactly one hole away from its current position to a new hole.

What strategy guarantees capturing the mole?

Assuming, that the mole must move (intuitively I don't think there's a solution if the mole can either move or stay put, but haven't really looked into it yet):
If the holes are numbered 1,2,3,4,5 use this pattern: 3,2,2,3,4,4,3,2

e: oops, made a mistake, must think again

e2: no I didn't (I hope), but the first step can be omitted: 2,2,3,4,4,3,2 (or 4,4,3,2,2,3,4)

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tj86430 wrote:
drmwc wrote:
There is a mole, who lives in a hole. You like eating moles, so you want to catch the mole. There are 5 entrances to the hole, which are arranged in a line.

Once a day, you look through a hole. If the mole is directly underneath you, you capture the mole. Othewrise, the mole goes free for the day. Ovenight, the mole moves exactly one hole away from its current position to a new hole.

What strategy guarantees capturing the mole?

Assuming, that the mole must move (intuitively I don't think there's a solution if the mole can either move or stay put, but haven't really looked into it yet):
If the holes are numbered 1,2,3,4,5 use this pattern: 3,2,2,3,4,4,3,2

e: oops, made a mistake, must think again

e2: no I didn't (I hope), but the first step can be omitted: 2,2,3,4,4,3,2 (or 4,4,3,2,2,3,4)
I'd omit one more step as well: 2,3,4,4,3,2
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Post #218 Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:08 am 
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opex wrote:
tj86430 wrote:
drmwc wrote:
There is a mole, who lives in a hole. You like eating moles, so you want to catch the mole. There are 5 entrances to the hole, which are arranged in a line.

Once a day, you look through a hole. If the mole is directly underneath you, you capture the mole. Othewrise, the mole goes free for the day. Ovenight, the mole moves exactly one hole away from its current position to a new hole.

What strategy guarantees capturing the mole?

Assuming, that the mole must move (intuitively I don't think there's a solution if the mole can either move or stay put, but haven't really looked into it yet):
If the holes are numbered 1,2,3,4,5 use this pattern: 3,2,2,3,4,4,3,2

e: oops, made a mistake, must think again

e2: no I didn't (I hope), but the first step can be omitted: 2,2,3,4,4,3,2 (or 4,4,3,2,2,3,4)
I'd omit one more step as well: 2,3,4,4,3,2

That seems to work.

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Post #219 Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:09 am 
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[go]$$Bcm141 B has captured 8; W has captured 3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O O . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O X O . , O X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O X O O O X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . O X X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . X . O O . . . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X X O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X , X X . . X O O . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . 1 O . X . . X . X X O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . 2 . O X X . X . . O . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . O X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . 3 . 4 . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bcm141 B has captured 9; W has captured 3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O O . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O X O . , O X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O X O O O X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . O X X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . X . O O . . . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X X O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X , X X . . X O O . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . 1 O . X . . X . X X O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . 2 . O X X . X . . O . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . O X O 5 |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . 3 . 4 . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]




My move is probably a little slack, but it makes very nice aji and I am way ahead. I the game were closer, I would play more actively. One possible idea that is:

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[go]$$Bc risky
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O O . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O X O . , O X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O X O O O X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . O X X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . X . O O . . . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X X O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X , X X . . X O O . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . X O . X . . X . X X O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X X . X . . O . X X . 6 8 . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X 7 X . . X 4 5 . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . O X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . X . O b O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 2 1 3 . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Atari as above is a little risky - W will fight a ko which is risky for B. W has more ko threats. After the move 145 as played W may need to answer 1 at b since it becomes more a flower viewing ko for me.

Following the atari, if I connect at 3 (eventually) W may cut at 4 and the sequence shown follows. Then I believe 8 is gote for W, so the whole sequence may be playable, But I may have overlooked something.

Suppose I had played this move:


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[go]$$Bc risky
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O O . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O X O . , O X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O X O O O X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O X O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . O X X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . X . O O . . . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X X O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X , X X . . X O O . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . X O . X . . X . X X O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X X . X . . O . X X . 1 . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . O X O 5 |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . X . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 2 3 . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This gets more points on the RHS. However, W gains around 4 points in double sente from the hane at 2 becoming sente.

So although my move is slack, given the 4 points in double sente, it's not that slack. And there is not need for me to take any chances. I don't really see where W has aji that could win after this.


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[go]$$Bc W's only chance?
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O O . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O X O . , O X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O X O O O X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . 7 X X O X O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O 5 4 6 O X X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X 2 . 8 X . O O . . . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . 3 X . . . X X O . O O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X , X X . . X O O . O O . , . . . |
$$ | . X O . X . . X . X X O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X X . X . . O . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O X X . X . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . O O . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . O X O 1 |
$$ | . . O O X X . . O , X O X X O O O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . O X X X X X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . X . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


White 2 above is a weak threat against some central stones. But I can answer 4 at 6 rather 5, and all is well. Other than that, the board is played out.
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