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Post #1 Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:33 pm 
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This will be my journal for games I play with my comments.

Goal:
To reach at least 1dan or preferably 2dan within 2 or 3 years, mybe 5years or however long it takes.

Some background:
Learnt to play Go about 14years ago., reached about 1k-1d in a year or two.
After this I played for another year or two, but gradually stopped playing much. Every so often I would play for a few weeks and then stop.
Guess I didn't like the idea of studying to improve. When it stops being fun and turns into work then I gave up.

Nowadays I like doing tsumego or reviewing pro games more than playing.
But if I'm going to reach my goal then I have to play.
I find going through pro games on a board gives me the inspiration and motivation to actually play go.

Strengths / Weaknesses:
My calculation/reading has always been good for my level due to liking tsumego.
Direction of play and positional judgement is weak due to not playing much and never getting a good grasp of the theory.
I like to play unusual fuseki such as blackhole (5-7 rotate) or tengen as black and white and then approach corners instead of taking an empty corner. This is so that my opponent and I have a position that we have never seen before and fuseki/joseki knowledge is then rendered less important.
I will try and play conventionally though for a while for my serious games.

Currently studying material:
[*]Playing out games from 'Invincible', guessing the next move, memorising, reading out sequences. I feel I have a good general grasp of the games and intuition as to what's important but the deep reading and fighting is beyond me which is to be expected. May get the Honinbo Shuei collection to go through.
[*]Lee chang ho tsumego vol 1-6. Stopped after doing vol 4 previously with about 66% correct for vol4.
Carry this in my pocket for work breaks, travel time etc. Currently starting vol 2 again.
[*]800 rapid weiqi, good easy problems, not done one complete pass yet, upto 250 currently.
[*]Weiqi sihuo life and death drills vol 1, currently on first pass, page 25, harder problems but not impossible.
[*]No other theory books as I find it a waste of time for me as I dont have the greatest memory and find not much fun to do, and since I don't play often I don't get a chance to use the info.
[*]I've got a ton of tsumego books, four commented games books, master of haengma and fundamental principles of go by yilun yang.

Aim:
Play one game on IGS 1/10 time each weekend, and then review.
Review on a real board, go through the game once or twice, find a handfull of points where I could improve or don't know what to do next.
Focus on direction of play, and fundamentals such as shape, as opposed to reading mistakes.
Run the game through Leela at the key points to get some alternative moves.
Post here with the game and some comments to act as a motivation to continue.



First serious game in a while, it was comfortable, but overall I'm not totally happy with my game yet.

[*] Bottom right joseki is kind of old according to 'jungsuk in our time' and doesnt give black a chance to split bottom.
[*] G6 i like but leela suggests to play joseki D9. Note to self try and learn it. But I like G6 as it builds power in whites sphere.
[*] C7 is bad i think, aji keshi? This is kind of bad habits I'd like break.
[*] E8, should take stone instead, Less aji remaining.
[*] C13, leela says I can hane.
[*] R12, shape move is P15, or mybe N16.
[*] I feel I got lucky taking the right side. My opponent missed T18 kill, but after this it is game over.

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Post #2 Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:04 am 
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My game this for week. A bit nervous about getting enough territory for my wall on the right side, but fortunate black didn't punish my mistakes more.



The game was reasonably balanced until the right side sequence. I got a big wall towards the centre which I was fortunate to convert into territory by a split attack on black.

I will try and find some games on kombilo with a similar right side pattern and see how white handles it.

The main points after looking through the game were:

[*] Black did not put up as strong a resistance as they could have.
[*] I played some slow non sente moves in upper left which black answered. C18
[*] C13 mybe should have been D13 or E16
[*] C8, possibly shape moves E13 or E12 better
[*] R6, better to split side with R10 leela suggests
[*] Q10 mybe better at Q11 or R11, and if black takes R8 then i can get corner R3?
[*] How to handle R10 move, is it a handicap strategy

There was quite a few endgame moves that took gote too many times, at that stage I just wanted to wrap the game up, instead of being optimal. I found it difficult to read/concentrate today, mybe I just need to play more and be more accustomed to the adrenaline feeling of being on edge when a fight breaks out.

Connecting S14 instead of Q15 first, thinking I could get an initiative when in fact it lost points by not defending.

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Post #3 Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:22 pm 
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My game for the week, i got off to a good start but in the end it was a narrow loss.

I made some strategic errors making two walls facing the centre that my opponent had groups that had access to.

It seemed like my opponent always got to my good points just before me.
In the end my stone efficiency making centre territory was not a good strategy.
My endgame also lost me several points, so I think I could have won this if i had played a better endgame.

My focus was a bit whack for this game due to work pressures, but thats just an excuse and I'm happy I've kept up my one game a week. I'm happy to get this loss as I'll learn more from this game than the others from the past two weeks.

Running the game through leela's neural net its interesting that sometimes my moves are in the right direction but just a bit off. They're the ones i should try and remember.

I've commented the sgf if anyone would like to point out a strategic move or two that I could improve upon. It's much appreciated. :tmbup:



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Post #4 Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:32 pm 
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A couple of top of the head comments.

:b9: How about tenuki? Like a high enclosure in the top right corner, P-16 or O-16?

:b13: A hanging connection at B-02 threatens to make a large slide to F-02. The slide to E-02 allows White to make a solid wrap around wall.

:b23: Not good, as you discovered. Better attach at P-08, for instance.

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Post #5 Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:09 am 
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:b13: A hanging connection at B-02 threatens to make a large slide to F-02.

It does? And B3 doesn't? Well I'll be. That's something I would never have considered if this were one of my games. :oops:

Edit: I guess it has something to do with a possible atari at C2:

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$$ | . O 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O . . . , . . . . O , . . . |
$$ | . . X 4 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 . 5 6 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #6 Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:27 am 
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Also:
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[go]$$
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . .
$$ | . O 2 . . . . . . .
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Post #7 Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:25 am 
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Looking at waltheri pattern search i found these common continuations.

follow up for white
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . .
$$ | . O 4 . . . . . . .
$$ | 2 X O O . O . . . ,
$$ | . 3 X . . . 8 . . .
$$ | . 1 . . 7 5 6 . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ ---------------------[/go]


follow up for black
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[go]$$
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . X . . . . . . .
$$ | . O 4 . . . . . . .
$$ | 2 X O O . O . . . ,
$$ | . 3 X . . 7 . . . .
$$ | . 1 . . . 5 . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ ---------------------[/go]


Bill Spight wrote:
A couple of top of the head comments.

:b23: Not good, as you discovered. Better attach at P-08, for instance.


Thats a good point, I will investigate further.
http://senseis.xmp.net/?AnswerTheCappin ... nightsMove
http://senseis.xmp.net/?CappingPlayContactResponse

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Post #8 Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:00 am 
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No game to review this week. My bad, I had a few games on Tygem, first time in a couple of years. My opponents were 1dan but they were so aggressive and didn't read very well so big kills happened and so not much to review.

I had notched up over 600 games there when I was playing lots online several years back, got to 2dan. i think playing on Tygem really improved my fighting skills and reading. I had a lot of fun I remember with the Korean style which was new to me.

I especially remember playing about 5 games with someone back to back and got absolutely hammered but somehow managed a close win I think in the last game. I think they were way stronger and it was a kind of teaching game though. Good memories.

Should I continue playing on IGS where I get close games that often go to endgame and focus on shape and fundamentals, these can be a bit boring though.
Or should I play for the fun exciting fighting games on Tygem that dont give such good games to review as they're often a bit chaotic.

My last game on IGS was a narrow loss and there was SO many points I learnt from.

I think I should just have fun, as often routine is the enemy and I feel personally that sticking to a plan for more than a few weeks more of a chore.

I've been doing quite a bit of tsumego though.
Lee Chang Ho tsumego vol 1 and 2 done, very little errors.
Lee Chang Ho tsumego vol 3, half way through, doing a bit better than last time.
Life and death drills vol 1, upto page 35, some really nice tesuji problems.
Rapid 800 weiqi, seems so easy, upto 385.

Ditched the Invincible book, got up to game 9. Found myself just reading the commentary instead of reading things out for myself. :(

Studying some Choi Cheolhan games instead from printed games on the goban, love the style, big trades, all out plays, no fear. Forcing me to try reading out what the heck is going on. Finding my reading skills getting a little sharper/faster, mybe it takes a few months though to see improvement, so gradual.

Also trying to focus on not just where are big points for territory but also important points for power/influence. Sometimes they're moves seem slow and i would play faster elsewhere. I think this is my main flaw though in leaving important unsettled positions when first to play in an area is actually important for eye space/power etc.

Hope to get a game from Tygem this weekend that I can actually review, if not it will be fun anyway.

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Post #9 Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 5:41 pm 
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hi,

I played a game on tygem tonight, my one weekly game.

It was fairly comfortable but i feel i made it more complex than it needed to be.

I definitely prefer this more cut throat style of play, compared to my few games on IGS. Trying to play good shape, solid moves help with running fights and crazy cuts.

Reviewed this on my goban and saw some move alternatives which I've put in the sgf, but I'm not sure what choices are best regarding positional judgement.

Any pointers would be appreciated. i was black, (1d vs 1d tygem)

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