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Post #41 Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:25 am 
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You can also die both from driving while plastered or by having your airplane shot down by terrorists, but the smart money is on getting a designated driver when you need one and just going ahead and flying.

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Post #42 Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:26 am 
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You can also die both from driving while plastered or by having your airplane shot down by terrorists, but the smart money is on getting a designated driver when you need one and just going ahead and flying.


:bow: Indeed, this is more or less my point too.

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Post #43 Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:16 pm 
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I guess my point was that given that there's a concrete difference between what Robert does and what you do, it's not very effective to point out that there are in principle higher levels of security than what Robert wants.

Here are four policies:
1) Do whatever the heck you want with your computer, including downloading things from sketchy "free ringtones" sites and "sociel [sic] plugins" for your browser, while using Windows XP.
2) Run a good secure browser in a moderately secure operating system (Windows 7, Linux, Mac, iOS, etc) and don't download things that look sketchy (or use an app store).
3) Run some complex security setup (Robert's, obscure linux variants, etc)
4) Don't open untrusted text files, don't read text emails.

My point is this: I follow 2, but I can't argue against 3 without doing a comprehensive evaluation of someone's entire set of priorities for their life. Some people want or need that kind of security. Most don't, but I'm not going to argue that those people are crazy unless they start telling me that I have to get on their bandwagon. Pointing out that 4 is even more secure doesn't establish that 3 isn't worth it, just like pointing out 1 doesn't prove that people who follow 2 are being way too lax.

So in this case (and only this case, mind you!) I'm willing to live and let live.

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Post #44 Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:28 pm 
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I'm not trying to tell Robert that my view is better, but he seems overly concerned with security (with a highly complex system set up,) but after all, 3 is not that far from 2, because anyone willing to do it, can get into 2 and 3 without "much" trouble. 4 is a totally different beast. Like a security expert I read about recently (it was The NY Times..?) that has a different smartphone for going to China, a smartphone that gets completely wiped before going and after coming back. Never types a password (stores all in an encrypted USB drive), and so on.

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Post #45 Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:41 pm 
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hyperpape wrote:
there are in principle higher levels of security than what Robert wants.


As I have argued elsewhere, what I really want is absolute operating system and software security: for stated requirements, proven by mathematical theorems for a well-defined finite space of admitted algorithms...!

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Post #46 Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:45 pm 
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hyperpape wrote:
there are in principle higher levels of security than what Robert wants.


As I have argued elsewhere, what I really want is absolute operating system and software security: for stated requirements, proven by mathematical theorems for a well-defined finite space of admitted algorithms...!


I'm not mathematically sure (after all, I'm not into this type of research), but you can check this computer. I think it is hacking proof, mostly.

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Post #47 Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:48 pm 
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RBerenguel wrote:
seems overly concerned with security


Nope:)

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4 is a totally different beast.


It just requires encryption in both directions. (With the side effect that only few will communicate with you, but that would be your intention;) )

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a different smartphone for going to China


Too weak. I never take electronics of any kind (oops, except my digital watch) with me when entering China. The real problem is, however, that today almost all PCs contain components also assembled in China:)

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Post #48 Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:52 pm 
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RBerenguel wrote:
you can check this computer. I think it is hacking proof, mostly.


The other standard joke: A PC needs a wall of 3m thick steel to separate it from its user. That is called "firewall".

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Post #49 Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:39 pm 
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So I gave in and bought a new iPad when I got a bonus from work. The clearer text is already making me very happy with my purchase. Now, what are some good go apps to populate it with? I have SmartGo EasyGo, SmartGo Books and similar already.

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Post #50 Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:55 am 
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Also got a bonus from work and when I was in the store, I almost bought it. I had a direct comparison with the Ipad 2 and the display is a huge improvement.

Only problem is: I don't need it. But then: WHO need's it? I guess nobody.

I think I will not even use it for playing Go. KGS not working, Tygem has a display problem (has to be only temporary though) and Kaya is still under development. Sure, there are IGS and WBaduk, but the options are kinda limited.

It would make for a good Go studying tool, for sure. Especially on the daily commute to work.

Even movies, I prefer to purchase the DVDs where I have multiple languages and subtitles.

If only I had a good reason to get it ...

(Hey guys: great april fools here in the forum!! My keyboard is NOT broken, I never said that :-) )

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Post #51 Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:13 am 
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Only problem is: I don't need it. But then: WHO need's it? I guess nobody.


Yeah, it's definitely a luxury. But then, there's nothing wrong with that either really.

Edit: Hah, at the April's Fools. :D

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Post #52 Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:29 pm 
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I got my iPad 2 for a job I did … I definitely didn’t need it, but now that I have it and use it, e.g., for watching TV while computing on the iMac and, especially, for solving Tsumego when I’m on the road, I never want to miss it again … so, some needs arise after they’re satisfied :D

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Post #53 Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:20 am 
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Boidhre wrote:
So I gave in and bought a new iPad when I got a bonus from work. The clearer text is already making me very happy with my purchase. Now, what are some good go apps to populate it with? I have SmartGo EasyGo, SmartGo Books and similar already.


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Btw if you need to run KGS on iPad you should use AlwaysOnPC app.


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Post #54 Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:25 am 
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Boidhre wrote:
So I gave in and bought a new iPad when I got a bonus from work. The clearer text is already making me very happy with my purchase. Now, what are some good go apps to populate it with? I have SmartGo EasyGo, SmartGo Books and similar already.


Screenshot with recommended go apps for iPad attached (something wrong with my connection, I hope it will upload)
Btw if you need to run KGS on iPad you should use AlwaysOnPC app.


Excellent, thanks! Um, there isn't much point in a joseki app for a ddk is there? Or am I totally wrong?

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Post #55 Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:34 am 
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Boidhre wrote:
lobotommy wrote:
Boidhre wrote:
So I gave in and bought a new iPad when I got a bonus from work. The clearer text is already making me very happy with my purchase. Now, what are some good go apps to populate it with? I have SmartGo EasyGo, SmartGo Books and similar already.


Screenshot with recommended go apps for iPad attached (something wrong with my connection, I hope it will upload)
Btw if you need to run KGS on iPad you should use AlwaysOnPC app.


Excellent, thanks! Um, there isn't much point in a joseki app for a ddk is there? Or am I totally wrong?


I think it could be a good training tool or for a post-game review.
Brugo Joseki is very nice app. You can also download Kogo's Joseki and use it in SmartGo or EasyGo.

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