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Post #21 Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:08 pm 
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Joaz Banbeck wrote:
I tend to disagree with Kirby's reasoning. :b1: is not all that weak, for it has miai to run at 'a' and 'o'. I still like 'c' better.


Kirby's reasoning above closely follows Yilun Yang's advice on how to approach a crosscut fight (See: The Workshop Lectures, Vol. 1). Another thing that Yang says however, is that a stone or group that has lost half its liberties can be considered weak. Although :b1: can easily gain liberties, atm it's two stones away from oblivion.

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Post #22 Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:11 pm 
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True. But by that definition, all black groups in the diagram are equally weak.

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Post #23 Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:20 pm 
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Yes, the situation is a bit unusual because no edges are in sight. Yang often points out that the inside group, i.e., the one closer to a wall, usually ought to be helped first.

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Post #24 Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:45 pm 
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1 - Tengen!
2 - I challenge you to a duel!
3 - Attack!
4 - Counter-attack!
5 - Imma ladder you yo.
6 - Denied.
7 - Double hane sup?
8 - COUNTER double hane yo!
9 - Imma ladder you!
10 - Ponnuki > ladder

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11 - DOUBLE ladder threat sup!
12 - Break one ladder, make another. Ladder 2 stones > Ladder 1 stone
13 - Double ladder is back yo.


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Post #25 Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:44 pm 
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Wow, thanks everyone for the responses! This board is awesome. Kirby's post in particular was very valuable to me. I worried there was some easy answer I was missing. But Bill Spight summarized it best:

Bill Spight wrote:

Go is hard. ;)


But also fun! :tmbup:

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