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Author:  TheBigH [ Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:21 am ]
Post subject:  Joseki question
Hi all, I have a question about white's last move in this game. I played the low three-space pincer because it was simultaneously a pincer and an extension from my top right corner, and white straight away slid to the 2-4 point. I would have expected the 3-3 invasion, the inside attachment, or a pincer from the other side. Is white's move joseki? I replied at 3-3, which was probably a mistake because white got the corner and I got a cramped position. What would be the best way to answer this unconventional move?



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Author:  macelee [ Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Joseki question
Just reply with 3-3. If your opponent wants to settle down, there is only space for a small extension which isn't very efficient. So the result is not bad for you.
Author:  EdLee [ Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:20 am ]
Post subject: 
TheBigH wrote:
I replied at 3-3, which was probably a mistake because white got the corner and I got a cramped position.
If you replied at 3-3, how could W get the corner AND you got a cramped position ?
Neither was supposed to happen. :)

- It's W who'll get a cramped position. As macelee said.
- You reply at 3-3: It's B who has the corner, not W.
- After your 3-3, B is free to get an extension better than joseki --
say, to N3 or N4 -- not the opposite (cramped for B).

What were the actual sequence and resulting local position in your game ?
Author:  Bill Spight [ Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Joseki question
As macelee and EdLee have said, your 3-3 reply was good. Here is an SGF file with a possible continuation. :)
Author:  Elom [ Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Joseki question
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . . . . . 2 . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I can imagine white probably played something like 2, but I think 3 is fine (if aggressive).
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