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Post #1 Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:53 am 
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In case you haven't realised, yet, the first match between Google and Lee Sedol starts at 04h00 GMT, tomorrow. You can see a live stream of it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFr3K2DORc8

That page says the commentary will be done by Michael Redmond (9-dan pro) and Chris Garlock. (Haven't got a clue who Mr Garlock is.)

For those of us who're unemployed enough to get up in the wee hours of the morning to watch the stream, where would be a good place to hang out and discuss or kibitz? YouTube's comment section will surely be a poor option.

Also, who's going to win? My money's still on the human.

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Post #2 Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:30 am 
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gogameguru will host a commented stream, whatever that means:

https://gogameguru.com/alphago-1/

"[Comments will be enabled shortly before the game starts.]"

I'm don't know if Andrew Jackson / Myungwan Kim will be doing a live relay / commentary on KGS.

P.S. Chris Garlock is an (the?) editor of the AGA e-Journal and appeared in the recent videos for the AGA pro exams amongst others.

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Post #3 Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:38 am 
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Charlie wrote:
wee hours of the morning

I'm guessing it is something else for the majority of L19 users - (late)evening for the Americans and late morning / early afternoon for the Asians. And not that early morning for the Russians either.

(I'm European and it would be quite an early morning for me, but luckily I'm currently in Thailand)

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Post #4 Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:46 am 
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Charlie wrote:
wee hours of the morning

I'm guessing it is something else for the majority of L19 users - (late)evening for the Americans and late morning / early afternoon for the Asians. And not that early morning for the Russians either.

(I'm European and it would be quite an early morning for me, but luckily I'm currently in Thailand)


Seems a little extreme to go there just to watch a go game. :)

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Post #5 Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:48 am 
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I believe that Andrew Jackson and Myungwan Kim won't be commenting on the first two games.

If you don't fancy hanging out here then you could try the British Go Association Facebook page, although most British players will probably be in bed for the first couple of hours.

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Post #6 Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:49 am 
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I'm also in Thailand but prefer to move to other countries since 11AM is my work time. Any country that match begin at 4-5PM?

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Post #7 Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:51 am 
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Charlie wrote:
That page says the commentary will be done by Michael Redmond (9-dan pro) and Chris Garlock. (Haven't got a clue who Mr Garlock is.)


He's the AGA's VP of Communications, currently.

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Post #8 Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:00 am 
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mumps wrote:
I believe that Andrew Jackson and Myungwan Kim won't be commenting on the first two games.

It seems they will (reddit thread about the AGA broadcast).

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Post #9 Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:24 am 
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pookpooi wrote:
I'm also in Thailand but prefer to move to other countries since 11AM is my work time. Any country that match begin at 4-5PM?
If I'm figuring this correctly, New Zealand will do.

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Post #10 Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 1:28 pm 
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pookpooi wrote:
I'm also in Thailand but prefer to move to other countries since 11AM is my work time. Any country that match begin at 4-5PM?


Germany, for example (05:00 am)

Everybody can check the game begin for their timezone here: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=March+9,+13:00+KST

If I understand correctly, DeepMind’s YouTube channel will begin streaming 30 minutes before the game begins … so maybe we will also get some extra information?

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Post #11 Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 1:35 pm 
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It's 9pm mountain time USA, I am hoping to stay up for the whole game. I was thinking I may replay some Lee Sedol games to get ready.


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Post #12 Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 5:01 pm 
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Charlie wrote:
Chris Garlock. (Haven't got a clue who Mr Garlock is.)

American Go E-Journal Managing Editor
http://www.usgo.org/news/

subscribe to the E-Journal here
http://www.usgo.org/american-go-e-journal

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Post #13 Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:02 pm 
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Post #14 Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:12 pm 
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Already interesting opening from Lee Sedol:

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Post #15 Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:43 pm 
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Random comments:

- Too bad they didn't show the set up, the audience, etc.
- Not digging Lee Sedol's short haircut
- Would be very interesting if they give Lee Sedol food so we can watch him eat in stream
- Wanna see more of AlphaGo's screen and its confidence level


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Post #16 Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:59 pm 
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In San Diego, a bunch of us are gathered in a coffeehouse, trying to predict moves. W just started playing yose moves; we are speculating that it thinks that it has won.

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Post #17 Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:17 pm 
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Joaz Banbeck wrote:
W just started playing yose moves; we are speculating that it thinks that it has won.


Do you have a time machine? I don't see yose moves yet. Still plenty of middle game fighting to go!

Edit: Oh maybe you think of the m2 hane as yose? But given white's spectacular invasion at r10 that actually looks like a very skilled move which aims to kill the q3 corner in the most efficient way with o2 if black gives white the s7 ponnuki.

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Post #18 Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 12:33 am 
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Sigh...it was right.

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Post #19 Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:00 pm 
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From Luis Armendariz on Facebook, re: move 102:

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Scroll to 04:04:11


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