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Author:  Bantari [ Sun Mar 20, 2016 10:48 pm ]
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EdLee wrote:
To me, such allegations are extremely ignorant, myopic, and insulting to the computer team.

Do you only feel like that about suspicions against computer teams only, or against anybody in general?

Author:  pookpooi [ Sun Mar 20, 2016 10:48 pm ]
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At this point, creating a superhuman go player is easier than cheating with million of people watching closely.

Author:  Kirby [ Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:03 am ]
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Jhyn wrote:

$1,000,000 were not at stake on Google's side, since they pledged to give them to charity in the case of an AlphaGo victory. Google payed this sum in order to set up the match; they were not playing for money. I would even suggest that this was a voluntary choice from them to remove what people could perceive as an incentive to cheat.



I doubt that there is any conspiracy going on, but it's probably better for Google in terms of taxes if Google gives $1,000,000 to charity vs. giving it to Lee Sedol. When companies give to charities, they usually get some pretty nice tax breaks.

I don't even understand my own taxes that well, though, so I may be missing something.

Author:  Kirby [ Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:07 am ]
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pookpooi wrote:
At this point, creating a superhuman go player is easier than cheating with million of people watching closely.


Cheating would probably not be that hard, but very unlikely that it's the case, considering the portrayed personalities of those involved.

Author:  EdLee [ Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:59 am ]
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Bantari wrote:
Do you only feel like that about suspicions against computer teams only, or against anybody in general?
We're discussing DM and DB; just them specifcally.

Otherwise, it's case by case; no one-size-fit-all.
How about you ? And why do you ask ?

Author:  Galation [ Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:19 pm ]
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Bonobo wrote:
TBH, to my ears it sounds like yet another of these ā€œIā€™m not saying XY but ā€¦ā€ statements after which it is clear that XY is meant.

Isn't it the figure of speech called "apophasis" ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophasis

Galation

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