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Post #1 Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:48 pm 
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I'm interested in buying a standard sized 19x19 go board with engraved lines that don't fade over time and use. Are there any that have this? Thanks.

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Post #2 Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:50 pm 
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This store in Canada says their boards are laser-etched.
http://www.glowingstone.org/go_equipment.php

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"Club Set - Goban
The table-boards (table gobans) we provide are constructed of laminated bamboo. They are 3/4" thick and fold. The hinges are epoxy-glued and screwed into the bamboo for a secure bond. Beyond the tremendous durability of the boards, it is important to note that the Glowing Stone Club Set boards are laser-etched. This means that the grid, which, on most commercial boards is painted on, will not rub off with use! "


You might also consider looking at inlaid boards. They are expensive, but beautiful, and would also not fade.

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Post #3 Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:51 pm 
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Inkwolf wrote:
This store in Canada says their boards are laser-etched.
http://www.glowingstone.org/go_equipment.php

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"Club Set - Goban
The table-boards (table gobans) we provide are constructed of laminated bamboo. They are 3/4" thick and fold. The hinges are epoxy-glued and screwed into the bamboo for a secure bond. Beyond the tremendous durability of the boards, it is important to note that the Glowing Stone Club Set boards are laser-etched. This means that the grid, which, on most commercial boards is painted on, will not rub off with use! "


You might also consider looking at inlaid boards. They are expensive, but beautiful, and would also not fade.


If you're allowed to tell me the names of the websites that sell such boards...I'm interested.

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Post #4 Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:39 pm 
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Rickofricks usually has this listing on Ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/INLAID-WOOD-GO- ... 1084894731

He sells lots of Go stuff. I bought my first board from him off Ebay about a year ago. This one is sadly out of my price range, but it looks great in the pictures.

And here's a European store that sells something like it. (Of course, I don't know what country you're in.)
http://en.aobo-shop.com/go-boards/324-g ... 20445.html

Poking around looking at Go equipment online has become sort of a hobby, :D

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Post #5 Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:41 pm 
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Inkwolf wrote:
Poking around looking at Go equipment online has become sort of a hobby, :D

Have you visited the Go Sightings section of my blog?

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Post #6 Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:28 pm 
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tchan001 wrote:
Inkwolf wrote:
Poking around looking at Go equipment online has become sort of a hobby, :D

Have you visited the Go Sightings section of my blog?


Yes, from time to time. :) You post some pretty cool stuff there, I loved those bowls you posted a month or so ago.

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Post #7 Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:38 am 
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Hebsacker in Germany has a number of bamboo boards with engraved lines. You can look at them here. "Engraved lines" in German is: "gefrästen Linien." (Or you can use the website's google translate function, in which case they are called "milled lines.")

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Post #8 Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:04 am 
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Wow, those rosewood boards with white lines are great!

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Post #9 Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:39 pm 
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Bad news, though...I e-mailed Rick to ask him a question about the Ebay board, and he said it was sold out and the listing should have been removed.

Hope he gets more.

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Post #10 Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:54 pm 
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Are the boards on Yellow Mountain Imports painted or engraved?

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Post #11 Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:51 am 
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Are the boards on Yellow Mountain Imports painted or engraved?


Painted. The bamboo board I bought from YMI had painted lines below the finish, which I suppose has the effect of making them "embossed" since the surface is perfectly smooth.

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Post #12 Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:54 am 
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Alberich wrote:
I'm interested in buying a standard sized 19x19 go board with engraved lines that don't fade over time and use. Are there any that have this? Thanks.


I don;t know if you're still looking, but I recently got this folding board from TheGoGameStore.com, and the lines are etched, and the hoshi burned in.

They sell a similar, non-folding bamboo board for the same price, and while I couldn't guarantee it, since I haven't seen that board in person, I would guess that one's probably etched as well.

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Post #13 Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:38 pm 
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Inkwolf wrote:
Alberich wrote:
I'm interested in buying a standard sized 19x19 go board with engraved lines that don't fade over time and use. Are there any that have this? Thanks.


I don;t know if you're still looking, but I recently got this folding board from TheGoGameStore.com, and the lines are etched, and the hoshi burned in.

They sell a similar, non-folding bamboo board for the same price, and while I couldn't guarantee it, since I haven't seen that board in person, I would guess that one's probably etched as well.

So you didn't have any problems with the Go Game Store? Their prices are so low, and their website so weird, that I worried it was a scam.

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Post #14 Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:12 pm 
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Recently they were updating their website, and the front page led nowhere while it was under construction. It's fixed, now.

The prices are low, but the shipping costs are considerable. The shipping cost on the bamboo go board was supposed to be $25. That still puts it at $40 total, which is reasonable.

The board is a bit rough around the edges, though. (Literally.) The back side isn't finished and has a rough feel, the screws aren't flush on the back and the slots in them look slightly strained--looks like they didn't really want to go into that hard bamboo. All that's keeping the hinge from scratching your table is four really wimpy foam feet, which I will be replacing as soon as possible with something stronger and thicker. That obviously wouldn't be a problem with the non-folding board, though.

I bought a carrying bag for it, too, and that I have no complaints about at all. It seems very nice, with internal pockets for the board and go stones.

I also was given an awesome deal on shipping, because I managed to get into their site when it was supposed to be closed, and they had mistakenly listed $5 shipping on everything, which they honored even though that must have been much less than shipping cost.

So I am grateful, and certainly have no complaints about their customer service.

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Post #15 Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:26 am 
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Thanks for the website link. I checked out their boards and there's nothing in there saying they're engraved. I wish they were. Can you imagine how quickly such Go boards would sell? I purchased the portable folding Go board from YMIports. I'm awaiting the arrival of my Yunzi Double Convex stones I ordered after getting the portable board first.

I still can't beat the computer at Go. :oops:

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Post #16 Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:33 pm 
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This is something I don't understand...why are these stores only selling gobans with painted lines and not engraved? Wouldn't it make more sense to manufacture gobans with laser etched lines? Even if they cost more...surely the benefits outweigh the negatives in offering such boards like that.

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Post #17 Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:09 am 
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Alberich wrote:
This is something I don't understand...why are these stores only selling gobans with painted lines and not engraved?


Have you seen my thread Just a picture of my first goban?

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Post #18 Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:01 am 
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Alberich wrote:
This is something I don't understand...why are these stores only selling gobans with painted lines and not engraved? Wouldn't it make more sense to manufacture gobans with laser etched lines? Even if they cost more...surely the benefits outweigh the negatives in offering such boards like that.


In my experience, painted lines are unlikely to fade unless you really mistreat the board. It happens rarely with the boards at our club, and those take quite a lot of abuse. They get drinks spilled over them, they slide over other boards every time you put them on our take them off the stack of boards, they have bowls put on top of them and slid around, etc.

Given that go is already a small market in the west, I guess there just isn't that much demand for engraved lines if the benefit is small and they are more expensive.

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Post #19 Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:12 am 
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Alguien wrote:
Alberich wrote:
This is something I don't understand...why are these stores only selling gobans with painted lines and not engraved?


Have you seen my thread Just a picture of my first goban?


Yes I saw that picture and it makes me drool with envy. That's what boards should look like and frankly, be standardized.

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Post #20 Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:14 am 
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Alberich wrote:
This is something I don't understand...why are these stores only selling gobans with painted lines and not engraved?


A combination of history and preference. Personally I would prefer painted lines than engraved. If there's a market for engraved, then someone will fill it. :)

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