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 Post subject: Re: #260 DJLLAP vs Kirby
Post #81 Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:27 pm 
Judan

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Interesting choice. Is this my chance to catch up?

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Post #82 Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:32 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , X O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O . X O . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . X . . . . . . B . . . |
$$ | . X . X . O X . . , O O X X . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . O . . X . O X O . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O X X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #83 Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:23 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , X O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O . X O . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . X . . . . . . X W . . |
$$ | . X . X . O X . . , O O X X . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . O . . X . O X O . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O X X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #84 Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:53 pm 
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I think this is a good chance. White was leading but gave me a potential target.

I have two choices:
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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , X O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O . X O . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . O X B . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . X . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X . X . O X . . , O O X X . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . O . . X . O X O . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O X X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


Or

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , X O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O . X O . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O B . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . X . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X . X . O X . . , O O X X . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . O . . X . O X O . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O X X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


Both are sente. The first one gives me a better shape on the right, but the second weakens his stones more.

Leaning toward the second, but it's purely intuition. Since I've been behind for awhile, I guess I'd better try to read out some sequences here since it could be my only chance.

Practically speaking, this probably means that I will procrastinate and put off thinking about this for awhile and then make a blitz decision later.

There's a chance I'll get the ambition to read a little bit, so why not wait to make a move, eh?

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Post #85 Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:08 pm 
Judan

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , X O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O . X O . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O B . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . X . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X . X . O X . . , O O X X . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . O . . X . O X O . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O X X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


This move reduces his liberties, and I think, gives me a better stance in the center.

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Post #86 Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:13 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . , X O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O . X O . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O B . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . X . . . . . . X O W . |
$$ | . X . X . O X . . , O O X X . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . O . . X . O X O . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O X X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


This makes life, and leaves some good endgame. Depending on how B's counter-attack goes, it might even threaten the life of his cutting stones.

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