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 Post subject: Re: #262: psygo vs topazg
Post #21 Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:04 pm 
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Post #22 Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:41 pm 
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Post #23 Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:55 pm 
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Post #24 Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:09 pm 
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Post #25 Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:11 pm 
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I'm not sure quite how thick this sequence is for Black with R4 a two space jump away. I was rather tempted with the idea of Q6 here, but I dismissed it as after I connect, Black bends anyway and, if anything, probably has a thicker outwards result than in this line. However, I don't believe I need to cut after connecting here, so I may go for an exciting point somewhere

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Post #26 Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 5:29 am 
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Post #27 Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:06 am 
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Post #28 Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:57 am 
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Now the game really begins. At first I was thinking about doing the shoulder hit at Q11, but the bottom seemed bigger. One of my worries now is how to answer O8.

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Post #29 Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:09 am 
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Post #30 Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:29 am 
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If I go for Q15, P17 seems to leave me in hopeless position, the sabaki looks to easy, so I'm gonna just absorb the blow for now. I wonder where a move like L17 would lead us to, it seems to be the weakness of my shape.

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Post #31 Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:32 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm slightly unsure if this is heavy, but it looks like a very big point, and allowing Black to play O16 looks pretty horrible -- it was either this or something like M17, but that seems to risk weakening H17, and this still isolates those two stones. I have a gut feeling that bO16 would be a wrong-side-peep-overplay, so let's see how this pans out

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Post #32 Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:20 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #33 Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 10:18 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bcm29 :b100: , :w100:
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$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . 8 X . O X 3 . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


probably one of those ...

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Post #34 Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 10:33 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 9 . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . 7 . 6 X . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , 5 . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O 2 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #35 Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:22 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 9 . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . 7 . 6 X . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . 0 5 . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . . . . . 4 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O 2 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #36 Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:48 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . X . O X 1 . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . . . . . O . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't like this atari, it makes him heavier and eliminates the aji in the corner. He was probably afraid that I could connect underneath by capturing P18, but it's too small for the moment. I think that N17 is in the wrong direction but I don't know what to do instead.

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Post #37 Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 6:24 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . X . O X 1 . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . 2 . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Made a mess of my shape here - I can't play the move I wanted, the peep just works for Black, and I can't find a way of treating things lightly. This seems forcing and hopefully should make eyeshape, so we'll go with this and see what happens

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Post #38 Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:18 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . X . O X 1 . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . 3 2 . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I don't see any gain in attaching to me, it will only make me stronger for the inevitable counter attack on the H17 stone. Jumping and connecting to the group on the right side seems to be the best course of action to me, it's incredibly difficult to cut him.

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Post #39 Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:08 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . X . O X 1 . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . 3 2 . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . . . 4 . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . X . O X 1 . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . 3 2 . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X . . . 4 . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
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$$ | . . O . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't not the direction of attack on the top right white group, so I'll leave it be for now.
Here comes a kind of probe, if he goes for the bottom, I go for the sansan, if he goes for the top, I'll probe again at C17, attack directly at F17 or maybe attach at C12, I'm not sure yet.

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