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 Post subject: Re: #263 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #261 Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 2:06 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm Prisoners: :black: :black: :white: :white:
$$ ----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O O X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . O X X X X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O O . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . X . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . X . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . 4 X . O X X . X . O X . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X 2 O . O . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X 3 9 O O 7 X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O . X O O X O 0 8 O O X . O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X X X 1 X 5 X O X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O 6 O O X . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O O . O O O O X X . X X O . O . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X X X X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . O . X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . X O O X X O O . . O X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I am sure my opponent will read this out... white die.
I think my opponent will not try to kill be because he is ahead by alot.

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 Post subject: Re: #263 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #262 Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 2:18 pm 
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@observers:
Joaz Banbeck wrote:
Magicwand wrote:
My 57 will be at H8


*Scrrrreeeeeech* Hold on here. That's the wrong ko!
MY group could be at risk.

I must start thinking again.


After thinking a bit, it appears that I do not have to fight the other ko. I can ignore it and just run him short on liberties.
This makes no sense. Did MW really exchange a ko that he could fight for a straight liberties race that he can't possibly win?

Either he is suicidal or I am stupid.


I suppose that the two are not mutually exclusive. :oops:

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Post #263 Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:55 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm151 Prisoners: :black: :black: :white: :white:
$$ ----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 4 O O O X . 3 . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . O X X X X X 1 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 2 X O O O . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . X . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . X . . . 5 . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . O X X . X . O X . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . O . O . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O O . X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O . X O O X 7 . . O O X . O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X X X 8 6 . X O X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . O O X . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O O . O O O O X X . X X O . O . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X X X X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . O . X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . X O O X X O O . . O X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I've spent a solid hour reading this, and cannot see how I can lose. I concluded many days ago that the line with the ko at H7/H8 was white's best chance, and I still hold that opinion.
I suppose that a purely rational player would let the ko slide, and just win on points in other parts of the board. But there is an issue of fighting spirit here: there is no way that I can show my face ...err, avatar... on these boards if I have let MW bluff me out of an easily won liberties race.

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Post #264 Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:04 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm151 Prisoners: :black: :black: :black: :white: :white:
$$ ----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 4 O O O X . 3 . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . O X X X X X 1 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 2 X O O O . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . X . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . X . . . 5 . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . O X X . X . O X . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . O . O . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O O . X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O . X O O X 7 . . O O X . O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X X X 8 6 9 C O X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . O O X . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O O . O O O O X X . X X O . O . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X X X X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . O . X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . X O O X X O O . . O X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #265 Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:25 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm151 Prisoners: :black: :black: :black: :white: :white:
$$ ----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 4 O O O X . 3 . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . O X X X X X 1 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 2 X O O O . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . X . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . X . . . 5 . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . O X X . X . O X . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . O . O . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O O . X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O . X O O X 7 0 . O O X . O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X X X 8 6 9 C O X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . O O X . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O O . O O O O X X . X X O . O . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X X X X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . O . X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . X O O X X O O . . O X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


No more ko. If he tries it, I have the double capture.

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Post #266 Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:31 pm 
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resign!
too strong for 3 stone.

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Post #267 Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:37 pm 
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resign!
too strong for 3 stone.

thank you.


Good game you two. Thanks for lettings us into your minds.

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Post #268 Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:53 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm21c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . B . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
This was the start of my downfall. I should have just connected.

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Post #269 Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:46 pm 
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Post #270 Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 1:10 am 
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Thank you indeed!

Next with smaller handicap?

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Post #271 Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:25 am 
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resign!...


Thanks for the game.

Magicwand wrote:
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too strong for 3 stone.
...

Maybe. But let's not forget what happened last time at 3 stones. You won.
( viewtopic.php?f=37&t=7479 )

tj86430 wrote:
...
Next with smaller handicap?


That sounds best. But not real soon. The honeydo list has been growing - and unfortunately winning a Malkovich game was not on it.

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Post #272 Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:00 am 
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@Magicwand:

Back at move 55, how did you make your decision? Did you also think that white would die?

Joaz Banbeck wrote:
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[go]$$Wcm51
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O 4 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . O 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . O . 1 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X 3 X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


...According to my reading, If he tenukis to the lower side, B11 kills in all variations....

Magicwand wrote:
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[go]$$Wcm51
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O 4 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 5 . X O . X . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . O 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . O . 1 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X 3 X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


now he is going to answer j3?

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Post #273 Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 3:45 pm 
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Joaz Banbeck wrote:
@Magicwand:

Back at move 55, how did you make your decision? Did you also think that white would die?


B10 would kill also. cleaner imo.

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