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 Post subject: 164. Twitchy Go v Wanderling
Post #1 Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 3:08 pm 
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This is the first Malkovitch game for either of us. Wanderling has agreed to play an even game, I will do my best to keep the game very interesting as thanks. :salute: We have chosen for color through PM. I won and am taking Black.
Edit: Just to mention Komi is 6.5, we decided this in PM and forgot to mention.
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My initial game plan here(exact placement of 2 and 4 not important for comments purpose.). solid territory is something I value as Black. Aiming for immediate enclosure of one corner and a likely pincer follow up. W approach at a, B at b. I will probably enclose the second corner if W does not approach.
But we will see if W does anything unexpected with his initial moves.

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Since my last post I've learned about the shusaku fuseki.. If he opens in the bottom left I think I'll try it out this game.

Lets get this game started good sir!


Last edited by Twitchy Go on Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:22 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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 Post subject: Re: 164. Twitchy Go v Wanderling
Post #2 Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 10:57 am 
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Hi all, thanks for watching. Like Twitchy said, this is my first Malkovich. I have been playing Go since last January and am in the vicinity of single-digit kyu although I think I am still double-digit. I don't study much nor am very competitive, I like to play for fun, watch other people and pros. I play very poorly on KGS and am 14k there. I have been playing Sanrensei lately

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Post #3 Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 11:30 am 
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Feel free to keep posting your moves as cordinates, or make diagrams of your own. I am fine with either system
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Ok, he played in the bottom right( :oops: ). I can try the shusaku fuseki now! I do hope he doesn't take that last corner. For one thing I wouldn't be able to play there myself. And for another thing... that results in me having an pincer-extension to any approach of the top left

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I think this would leave black with an advantage. I doubt I have the skill to capitalize... but my plan for this game now is to try out shusaku's fuseki. So I'd rather have an approach on the marked stone. I've tried on KGS..but they always take the wrong corners :mad:


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:) Is this open or closed book?

Twitchy Go,
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Ok, he played in the bottom left.
The other left. :)
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I do hope he doesn't take that last corner.
Not Go. :mrgreen:

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Post #5 Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 11:42 am 
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:) Is this open or closed book?


We are not using joseki dictionaries or databases.
@observers
Which could be a problem as I only know the first 7 or so moves of this fuseki after flipping through the sample chapters of Invincible in smart go books. :lol:
Well I think I can play some quasi-joseki.. or rather joseki I remember just well enough to mess up. I can't wait for the first 10-20 moves to be over. By that point any studying I put into this opening shouldn't be able to affect the game. It's killing me to wait. :cry:

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Post #6 Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 11:44 am 
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Ok, he played in the bottom left.
The other left. :)
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I do hope he doesn't take that last corner.
Not Go. :mrgreen:
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Um yes.. My bad.

What do you mean with your second statement?

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Post #8 Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 11:48 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Please enjoy yourself!
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Well that was disappointing :cry:
Well I suppose Edlee called it in a sense. Lets see if he approaches my 3-4 point then.

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Twitchy Go,
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What do you mean with your second statement?
I understand the feeling: once in a while a situation comes up with a possible variation that I'm inexperienced with,
and I hope my opponent would play it, so that I can experience it and learn from it.

But, if I make a mistake, or, if there's a big point or good move left on the board,
and I hope my opponent would not see it (and so he would not play it), that's not Go. :)

So if you considered the last empty corner D4 to be the biggest move on the board,
but at the same time you hoped he would not play it... c'mon. :)

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Twitchy Go,
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What do you mean with your second statement?
I understand the feeling: once in a while a situation comes up with a possible variation that I'm inexperienced with,
and I hope my opponent would play it, so that I can experience it and learn from it.

But, if I make a mistake, or, if there's a big point or good move left on the board,
and I hope my opponent would not see it (and so he would not play it), that's not Go. :)

So if you considered the last empty corner D4 to be the biggest move on the board,
but at the same time you hoped he would not play it... c'mon. :)


I actually don't think the last corner is the most urgent for W. Biggest perhaps(?), but from what I understand of this fuseki.
W wants to approach with 4 and 6. Black will play a, if no komi(because its slower. Has great follow ups though). b if komi(faster and still keeps pressure on white.) and it continues from there.
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If instead W takes the 2nd starpoint. B gets an enclosure and now any approach on the upper left 3-4 will be met by a pincer-extension.
I don't think this result is favorable for W. And as a result hoped that he would approach my 1 stone instead. I feel that Whit 4 in diagram 1 to be a more correct response(albeit my knowledge is far from even amateurish on the subject.) But like I said in my comments, can I back up the advantage I believe dia 2 gives me?

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Twitchy Go,
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most urgent for W. Biggest perhaps(?)
Most urgent = biggest. :)

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Twitchy Go,
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most urgent for W. Biggest perhaps(?)
Most urgent = biggest. :)

Then I guess its not the biggest. If I were playing W, I would have approached with my second move. I feel that that is the best move W has.

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Then I guess its not the biggest. If I were playing W, I would have approached with my second move. I feel that that is the best move W has.
Taking the empty corner and approaching a 3-4 are about the same. :) No problem.
I would play :w4: at D4 like Wanderling.

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Then I guess its not the biggest. If I were playing W, I would have approached with my second move. I feel that that is the best move W has.
Taking the empty corner and approaching a 3-4 are about the same. :) No problem.
I would play :w4: at D4 like Wanderling.

:lol:
I suppose I might be being a bit too black and white about the move quality. It really could just be chalked up to stylistic preference. I still stand by my previous statement that I think the approach is slightly better for W.

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Taking the empty corner and approaching a 3-4 are about the same. :) No problem. <-- PRO OPINION
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I still stand by my previous statement that I think the approach is slightly better for W.
It's certainly your privilege to disagree with pro opinion. :)

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Taking the empty corner and approaching a 3-4 are about the same. :) No problem. <-- PRO OPINION
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I still stand by my previous statement that I think the approach is slightly better for W.
It's certainly your privilege to disagree with pro opinion. :):

Indeed it is. Lets see if play can prove me wrong here :)

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Thought about Sanrensei but approached here instead to deny him the star point to combine top. He can pincer and achieve similar effect which would make my move an early invasion, I might get a weak group between his two territories on the top. On my second move I wanted to deny him the keima approach of my left 4-4 but didn't know what else there was. Perhaps I should keima approach top left, not sure how it's different from the one-space.

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Urgent before big. 1pt high approach is not played with the intent of living on the side, so that means he probably wants some kind of outside position. Lets see if I can give it to him and end in sente to take the shared extension point. :twisted: (doubtable)
Acceptable results.
A wall facing his starpoint he takes b I take a(don't know how it would get there from here but if he wants that good for him.)
A wall facing my corner enclosure, while i live in the corner and down the part of the left side. If he takes a that lets me give me sente to approach a 4-4. If he does something else(I doubt it) I'll take c.

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I think this is joseki. If he follows this through 6 I will play at c instead of 7. I can live with being small in the corner, that extension is big.
Therefore he will probably skip 6 playing straight at 8. I will take 7 and save the cutting aji for later. If he goes back to play 6, hey that's sente for me :)
I have some other ideas for W response, but I think he'll take this route. Stopping me from playing c would be nice for him.

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 Post subject: Re: 164. Twitchy Go v Wanderling
Post #19 Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 3:14 pm 
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