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 Post subject: Re: 39. Magicwand (3d) vs. Kirby (1d)
Post #141 Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:22 am 
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Did somebody add ranks to this thread? I really hate associating myself with a rank, but I guess I don't care in this case...

Yeah, it was done by suggestion in order for observers to get an idea of which games to watch, which makes sense. You could easily edit out your rank with (?d/k) if you don't like what I put for yours :P.

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Post #142 Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:23 am 
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Araban wrote:
Kirby wrote:
Did somebody add ranks to this thread? I really hate associating myself with a rank, but I guess I don't care in this case...

Yeah, it was done by suggestion in order for observers to get an idea of which games to watch; you could easily edit out your rank with (?d/k) if you don't like what I put for yours :P.


Well, I don't like putting anything at all to be honest - you can see my weaknesses and strengths by observing the games, but I don't care that much.

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Post #143 Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:29 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X W . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , O . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . X O . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . O X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i dont like what i am going to play....it's not my style..
but i think i need to do something to catchup.

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Post #144 Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:50 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . X X . X . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . , O . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . X O . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . O X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think that it's time to connect this group now. Playing with the contact stone he just made gives him many forcing moves, and could make my group here potentially dangerous. I don't seal him in this way, but I can still escape with my center group.

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Post #145 Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:55 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , O . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . X O . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . O X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #146 Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:58 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . B . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , O . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . X O . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . O X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The stone isn't that important. I need to jump out and continue to strengthen my group. Later on, I can save the stone, and he'll have a cutting point at "a" that may or may not be relevant, since he can play at "b":
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . O a b . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . B X O . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , O . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . X O . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . O X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #147 Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:01 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , O . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . X . X . B . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . O X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I can hear people saying that this is a bad move already...
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I don't think this is a bad move. :)

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Post #148 Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:03 pm 
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Kirby wrote:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , O . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . X . X . B . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . O X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I can hear people saying that this is a bad move already...


For Kirby:

I don't think this is a bad move. :)


Cool! From your earlier comment (about losing a stone), by the way, I can kind of see that P4 was bad now. I thought it was cool at the time, but it has put my center group through a lot of trouble now that I think about it.

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Post #149 Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:06 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . W X O . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , O . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . X O . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . O X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #150 Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:06 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , O . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . X O . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . O X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think that it's time to connect this group now. Playing with the contact stone he just made gives him many forcing moves, and could make my group here potentially dangerous. I don't seal him in this way, but I can still escape with my center group.


Kirby is just ensuring the safety of his stones and show no fighting spirit at all. No wonder he is so easy to bully.
Anyway, I think it is possible to block white's attachment.

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Post #151 Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:07 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . B O X O . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , O . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . X O . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . O X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Well, I guess this is sente for him. I still don't feel bad about letting the stone go, though, because I think it would have made my group more heavy (although now it is also a bit heavy, it is probably more heavy by saving the stone).

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Post #152 Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:10 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . W . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , O . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . X O . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . O X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #153 Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:18 pm 
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I'm going to wait a bit.

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Post #154 Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:22 pm 
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Kirby wrote:
Well, I guess this is sente for him. I still don't feel bad about letting the stone go, though, because I think it would have made my group more heavy (although now it is also a bit heavy, it is probably more heavy by saving the stone).


I feel very painful to have this stone eaten without adequate compensation. Notice that white broke past black's loose ringfence and is still one connected group!

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Post #155 Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 1:03 pm 
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I actually think Magicwand is clawing his way closer when Kirby answers so passively. Kirby need to keep his tounge right or Magicwand might stage an upset. Harr, im actually rooting for magicwand atm, his playing have gone from sneaky overplayish to honest aggressive as the hc have increased and i like that.

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Post #156 Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:29 pm 
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Kirby wrote:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , O . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . X O . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . O X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think that it's time to connect this group now. Playing with the contact stone he just made gives him many forcing moves, and could make my group here potentially dangerous. I don't seal him in this way, but I can still escape with my center group.

Even I, being several stones weaker, was instantly feeling that this move is MUCH too defensive when I saw it. Magicwand is desparately - so it feels to me - trying to break through Kirby's enclosure and he is just backing off and letting him have that. There must be some better move which is defending his group and simultaneously threatening something to Magicwand as well. But Kirby did not mention any other moves that he considered. Did he play this too fast? I could very well understand that, I am having trouble with the patience needed for turn-based-games as well. Or is it a general weakness of him, letting the opponent have what he wants without making sure that he gets some compensation?

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Post #157 Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:32 pm 
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I would have played O14 instead of L12. At the time I didn't like L12. Now I think L12 was good and O14 too timid. I would have liked to see the M13 hane and the resulting fight instead.

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Post #158 Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:51 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , B . . . X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , O . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . X O . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . O X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Well, he is attacking my stones, and I need some sort of safety. There's also my center group to consider, which is not that strong, either.

I don't want him to get a position on the top, so I considered this:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . c . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . B . O . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . b a . . . . X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , O . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . X O . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . O X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


but white can make things hard for me with a move like "a". I also considered playing at "b", but that doesn't allow for me to play under at "c" very well.

I think I need to strengthen my group. I don't want him to get a good position on the side, but I have to keep my group safe.

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Post #159 Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:55 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . W B . . . X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , O . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . X O . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . O X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #160 Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:00 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O X . . . X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . B . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , O . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . X O . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . O X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I get eyespace with this move, threaten to connect to my center group, and have potential to cut him if he doesn't protect the cut. I think that this is the right move.


I could have also considered K15. I think that K15 could be OK, but might damage my right group more when white ataris.

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