If you don't mind giving up your spot, I'll take it.

If we're voting on what kind of time controls, I prefer Canadian but would be OK with either. It'll spoil me for when I have to go back to byo-yomi, though. It reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where Kramer paints over the lines on the road. "These wide lanes are so luxurious!"

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Either time setting is okay with me, but I'll declare a preference for Canadian since I'd like to try it out.

I prefer canadian by a lot. Being able to take more on one single move and then play others fast is much better for me than restraining myself from playing to use the rest of the period thinking about the next move.

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I vote for the Canadian. 30 seconds per stone is just fine, since the basic time is sufficiently long (30? 40? I forget already). And this definitely keep the game moving toward conclusion. I like it. (Says he who almost never plays RT online!)

vote for byo-yomi,
how strongly i dislike Canadian...i'm bad at dividing numbers, so i just don't like, don't like, don't like Canadian. Ok, 3 times, that's strong enough

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It's funny, people keep talking about dividing numbers. I've played Canadian overtime lots and lots, and I have never once tried to divide the number of stones into the time left. If I have 8 stones left in 3 minutes, I know how many stones 8 is, and I know how long 3 minutes is - dividing always seems pointless

My vote, for what it is worth, is definitely on Canadian. I like being able to think up to 3 or 4 minutes on a single important move without watching my lives tick down. Canadian has much less pressure to me...

I don't know how many stones 8 is, cannot read that far; and seems i don't know how long 3 minutes is neither 10s, 30s, 45s or 1m makes sense. 3 minutes sounds like in the main time still. I feel more comfortable when being told that's 23s per move. 8 stones in 3 minutes doesn't seem to make any difference from 8 stones in 5 seconds or 25 stones in 3 minutes for me. It just makes panic

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I'm fine with either overtime setting. And it's fine if I get bumped into the third group!

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I rather strongly prefer byo-yomi to Canadian. My problem with Canadian timing is that it leads to strategic timing for your opponent: if you have little time left during a period, he can just start making wild overplays inside of your territory and hope you'll screw up with the little time you have left with a period. Your opponent is also incentivized to not play forcing moves which are easy to answer if you are low on time before starting a difficult fight, even if the forcing moves should be played before starting the fight. With byo-yomi, you have the same amount of time each move, so your opponent is never incentivized to play or not play certain moves on a given turn.

If we use byo-yomi, I think there should be at least 30 seconds per move. More is fine, but with less it starts to feel like blitz, and the game quality goes down. With Canadian, I'm guessing there should be at least 15-20 seconds per stone, though the actual breakdown of stones and time periods isn't too important.

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Are we going to get somebody to do a verbal countdown for our byo-yomi periods (if we have them)?

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That would be awesome!

Never played Canadian, but this would be as good a time as any to give it a shot. I'm fine with whatever one the majority votes for, though.

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Do all matches have to use the same setting? What about letting players choose between std and Canadian, if they can not agree, then standard is used?

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Thanks for the reply. Since I assume the 2nd group=group 5, I'm going to have to withdraw Sorry about that, I hope you can find a replacement.

I guess now both topazg and fwiffo can participate. I hope we get no more cancellations, otherwise we will never get this started.

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Byo-Yomi and I'm still in. (Going to have troubles playing in second half of July, but well, first I need to come that far =D)

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I prefer Canadian, but have no problems with byo-yomi.

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I think simply using more byo-yomi periods achieves the advantages(you can take your time in a complicated situation) of Canadian without its disadvantages(more complicated time-management).

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I know I'm going to end up sounding like a Canadian fanboy (and I'm not, honestly! I'm happy enough with Byo-yomi), but I'm not convinced about this at all.

Let's say there's a complicated position on the board, and I play some quick forced moves out on one side to use up 6 moves, and then 3:15 concentrating on this complicated move. That should leave me 1:30 for 3 moves. However, if this was byo-yomi, I'd instantly be down 3 of my periods and down to 2 remaining lives. I find that situation much more stressful than managing my moves in an overall period of time.

I was thinking about having 10-15 byo-yomi periods, not just 5.
Personally I prefer a time system where the first 30 seconds of each move are free and then it pulls from your thinking-time which is several minutes.
But since KGS doesn't support a good overtime system we need to use byo-yomi or canadian

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Actually, yeah, this sounds like an excellent idea - I'd happily go with this as an option over both. I'd also be fairly happy with Fischer timing too, even if it was like 2 mins +15 secs per move overtime at the end of a fixed basic time. Both to me feel better than byo-yomi and Canadian, but as you say, we have to work with what we've got