(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Chinese]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[2700] GN[EGPF 2020 Quarterfinal Daniel Hu (w) vs Benjamin D.-G. (b)]PW[Daniel Hu]PB[Benjamin Drean-Guenaizia]WR[5d]BR[6d]DT[2020-01-18]EV[European Grand Prix Final 2020]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]RE[W+Resign] ;B[pd] ;W[dd] ;B[cp] ;W[pp] ;B[nq] ;W[eq] ;B[do] ;W[ip] ;B[qq] ;W[pq] ;B[qp] ;W[po] ;B[pr] ;W[or] ;B[qr] ;W[nr] (;B[lq] ;W[qc]C[Gonzalate [4d?\]: Go ben0! ] (;B[pc] ;W[qd] ;B[pe] ;W[qe]C[DH: trying to get sente] ;B[qf] ;W[rf] ;B[qn] ;W[ld]C[DH: copied from alphago self-play game 38, but leela wants to play at N3] ;B[qb] ;W[rb] ;B[rg]C[I thought you weren't meant to play here without the ladder, but with R6, perhaps it is different.] ;W[pf] ;B[qg] ;W[pb] ;B[ob] ;W[qa] ;B[nd] ;W[of] ;B[me] (;W[pi]C[DH: not placing enough importance on the cutting stones] (;B[le] ;W[mq] ;B[mp] ;W[mr] ;B[ri]C[Muttley [-\]: Allez Daniel! Liso66 [?\]: How young is Daniel? ] (;W[pn]C[DH: didn't know what to do here] ;B[qm] ;W[pm] ;B[oh]C[Muttley [-\]: He is at Cambridge Uni, so I'm guessing 19-21 Liso66 [?\]: Cool! Thanks! :) Muttley [-\]: np :) ] ;W[jd]C[Gonzalate [4d?\]: white plays so clean ] ;B[ke] ;W[fc] ;B[ko]C[Muttley [-\]: I would have c17 before L15 Gonzalate [4d?\]: but white could sente- it no? Muttley [-\]: depends on what aji white wants to leave ] (;W[jq]C[DH: clearly slow] ;B[cf] ;W[ci] ;B[cd] ;W[cc] ;B[bc] (;W[bb]C[DH: seems not so good here Gonzalate [4d?\]: oh ] ;B[be] ;W[ac] ;B[de] ;W[bd] ;B[ed] ;W[dc] ;B[ge] (;W[hd] ;B[ck] ;W[ei] ;B[gi] ;W[ek] ;B[dm] (;W[gk]C[Gonzalate [4d?\]: this is a good position for Ben0's style Gonzalate [4d?\]: Go! ] ;B[ij] ;W[if] ;B[gg] ;W[il] ;B[kq] (;W[mn] ;B[np] ;W[oq] ;B[jr] ;W[ir] ;B[jp] ;W[iq] ;B[km] ;W[jn] ;B[kn] ;W[ml] ;B[kk] ;W[ql] ;B[rl]C[frederic [2d\]: time remaining for both? LilouMoyo [4d\]: what tanguy did? EGF4 [?\]: white 36 black 21 frederic [2d\]: he lost against Daniel LilouMoyo [4d\]: aho daniel strong ! frederic [2d\]: Daniel won against 2 pros I think ] (;W[mj]C[DH: overplay frederic [2d\]: thanks EGF4 ] ;B[gm] ;W[ik] ;B[jj] ;W[hn] ;B[oj]C[ptitlou [3d\]: Isn’t L8 frightening? ] (;W[pk] ;B[oi] ;W[rk] ;B[rm] ;W[ok] ;B[lk]C[KA0S [2d\]: seems it was ] ;W[mk] ;B[dq]C[Gonzalate [4d?\]: so it's a yose game :/ ] ;W[ep]C[frederic [2d\]: I like j17 for b Gonzalate [4d?\]: I'd go for L16 KA0S [2d\]: I would probably k18 Gonzalate [4d?\]: nothing to do on the left? Gonzalate [4d?\]: there should be something ] ;B[kd]C[Gonzalate [4d?\]: F10 or somthing brutal frederic [2d\]: gonzalate wins :) Gonzalate [4d?\]: I know ben0 too well :p frederic [2d\]: ^^ ] ;W[kc]C[r0n1n [?\]: sorry, just arrived ; does that mean ben won against Oskar yesterday ? Gonzalate [4d?\]: yes EGF4 [?\]: black 10 minutes, white 32 Gonzalate [4d?\]: 32?! wo r0n1n [?\]: ty EGF4 [?\]: Ben beat Oskar yesterday, yes albatros [6d\]: Oscar* ] ;B[mh]C[r0n1n [?\]: ah, right Gonzalate [4d?\]: roh le tobi ] ;W[lb] ;B[er] ;W[fr] ;B[dr] ;W[bk] ;B[bl] ;W[bj] ;B[dk] ;W[bg] ;B[cg] ;W[bh]C[frederic [2d\]: je vois blanc devant du komi la Gonzalate [4d?\]: ça a l'air serré frederic [2d\]: oups in Eng :) frederic [2d\]: I see w ahead by komi :p ] ;B[fo] ;W[el]C[frederic [2d\]: but i cheer for Ben0! go Ben0 Gonzalate [4d?\]: ye ] ;B[gn] ;W[bm]C[Gonzalate [4d?\]: mmh ] ;B[cl] ;W[al]C[Gonzalate [4d?\]: I smell a big ko ] ;B[kr]C[Gonzalate [4d?\]: oh Gonzalate [4d?\]: can white die ? ] ;W[gl]C[r0n1n [?\]: that seems to be the hope for b Yezurof [2k\]: D10 cut ? Gonzalate [4d?\]: wait but the bottom is also not alive if black cuts EGF4 [?\]: black down to 3 minutes Gonzalate [4d?\]: ajaj Uberdude [5d\]: quickly checking-in. how is Daniel doing? r0n1n [?\]: pretty good, but maybe not ] ;B[hm]C[frederic [2d\]: ^^ Uberdude [5d\]: woot woot, go daniel ] ;W[im] ;B[ho] (;W[io] ;B[in]C[Gonzalate [4d?\]: hm ] ;W[jo] ;B[jm] ;W[hn]C[frederic [2d\]: this is one you have identified Gonzalate? Gonzalate [4d?\]: absolutely not frederic [2d\]: fun :) Gonzalate [4d?\]: i was thinking of some cuting adventurous move and then the C15 ko becoming something bigger Gonzalate [4d?\]: this ko white could avoid I think ] ;B[gd] ;W[gc]C[Gonzalate [4d?\]: K5 in answer to H5 ] ;B[in] ;W[kp] ;B[lo] ;W[hn]C[Gonzalate [4d?\]: now white is really in trouble frederic [2d\]: yeah, b should gain something out of this Gonzalate [4d?\]: he can threaten to kill the right group probably? ] ;B[jc]C[frederic [2d\]: but b has less time right? Gonzalate [4d?\]: true EGF4 [?\]: 1min aainst 28mins Whirly [3d\]: and if w wins the ko b has much less points frederic [2d\]: oups Gonzalate [4d?\]: is this big enough frederic [2d\]: time is a pain Gonzalate [4d?\]: but ko is great in fischer frederic [2d\]: ah true frederic [2d\]: adding time each move right? flutterby [2k\]: thjis is enough for b Gonzalate [4d?\]: +20 sec yes Whirly [3d\]: 20 secs ] ;W[id]C[Whirly [3d\]: how should w answer if he does answer? ] ;B[in]C[Whirly [3d\]: ah ] ;W[qo]C[Gonzalate [4d?\]: ben just answer Gonzalate [4d?\]: please frederic [2d\]: yeah frederic [2d\]: .... Shamash [?\]: Ahhh I'm late ! Gonzalate [4d?\]: you're more than late Rija frederic [2d\]: :p ] ;B[ro]C[Shamash [?\]: =/ ] ;W[hn]C[Gonzalate [4d?\]: but on time for the real thing ] ;B[jb]C[Shamash [?\]: ahah just in time to see him win, right ? r0n1n [?\]: I think he always was going on answer, just thinking on other threats maybe Whirly [3d\]: if b wins the ko w has one group dead and one in trouble Gonzalate [4d?\]: but this Gonzalate [4d?\]: yeah it's fine Shamash [?\]: So GOnza Shamash [?\]: what's going on here ? Gonzalate [4d?\]: white simply dying would make more relieved r0n1n [?\]: maybe it's annoying for b to attack the right side group because of m1 ] ;W[in]C[Whirly [3d\]: is it attackable? Gonzalate [4d?\]: ok let's hope it's enough now ] ;B[mb] ;W[ib] ;B[kb]C[r0n1n [?\]: well I would have thought that b would have tried to attack it as a ko threat ] ;W[ic] ;B[lc]C[Gonzalate [4d?\]: the left will suffer ] ;W[bo] ;B[bp]C[frederic [2d\]: I see b ahead now ] ;W[ih]C[Gonzalate [4d?\]: i get 33 for b and 29+komi white or so ] ;B[hi]C[Gonzalate [4d?\]: difficult to count though ] ;W[ki]C[Gonzalate [4d?\]: o-o ] ;B[dh]C[Shamash [?\]: but this group, is it alive ? Whirly [3d\]: only 33 for b? ] ;W[cm]C[frederic [2d\]: +7.5 for b to me if everything lives Gonzalate [4d?\]: e6 pain Shamash [?\]: Hi frederic ! Whirly [3d\]: I count 46 for b Gonzalate [4d?\]: this looks very very bad frederic [2d\]: salut Rija :) Shamash [?\]: bravo pour ton 2d frederic [2d\]: ^^lol Shamash [?\]: =p Whirly [3d\]: and w has about 42 r0n1n [?\]: I wonder if b is going to die in the center ] ;B[jh]C[r0n1n [?\]: seems like he's afraid of it too Gonzalate [4d?\]: and he loses a lot of points on the left Gonzalate [4d?\]: this is very very very very bad ] ;W[ji] ;B[ii] ;W[jg] ;B[hh]C[Whirly [3d\]: that's fine for b ] ;W[kh]C[r0n1n [?\]: if he can connect d8 , it's all fine Whirly [3d\]: he gets some more points by living here Gonzalate [4d?\]: d8 e6 how do you answer ] ;B[eh] ;W[fi] ;B[fh]C[Gonzalate [4d?\]: he doesnt even gets it Gonzalate [4d?\]: aaaa r0n1n [?\]: e5 maybe ? at least can capture 2 stones back frederic [2d\]: sente you mean? Gonzalate [4d?\]: yes but it's painful Gonzalate [4d?\]: white was slightly ahead now he takes the stone and it's over Whirly [3d\]: he can captue them with G3 anyway albatros [6d\]: guys albatros [6d\]: who wins? Gonzalate [4d?\]: daniel albatros [6d\]: hu Gonzalate [4d?\]: yeah that one Whirly [3d\]: lol albatros [6d\]: didn't work 2nd time lol albatros [6d\]: who wins - hu Shamash [?\]: ahah Gonzalate [4d?\]: plus ben0 is still in a difficult litteral time Shamash [?\]: But Daniel poped out of nowhere and he destroy everyone... Shamash [?\]: never heard about him Whirly [3d\]: wade said he started only 4 years ago Whirly [3d\]: even less Whirly [3d\]: after AG Whirly [3d\]: and he even had a 2 year break he said Gonzalate [4d?\]: i count white + komi if taking the stones Gonzalate [4d?\]: depending also on stuff like q10 connect etc ] ;W[en]C[Gonzalate [4d?\]: ouch Whirly [3d\]: probe LilouMoyo [4d\]: and he works 50hours a day on other jobs ] ;B[eo] ;W[dn] ;B[cn] (;W[co] ;B[em]C[Whirly [3d\]: ha? ] ;W[bn]C[Gonzalate [4d?\]: good for black! Whirly [3d\]: he messed up? Gonzalate [4d?\]: looks like ] ;B[dl] ;W[gp]C[Whirly [3d\]: hm frederic [2d\]: yeah ] ;B[fn]C[Gonzalate [4d?\]: eh Whirly [3d\]: what frederic [2d\]: ? ] ;W[dp]C[Gonzalate [4d?\]: the f albatros [6d\]: d4 Whirly [3d\]: wtf hazee: gg albatros [6d\]: lol frederic [2d\]: ...... Shamash [?\]: ? frederic [2d\]: ben!! Gonzalate [4d?\]: whyyyyyyyyy frederic [2d\]: .... albatros [6d\]: Strenght of a real pro MikGo [-\]: Aah? Shamash [?\]: ?! jahfab [1d?\]: you mean weakness of a real amateur :p Whirly [3d\]: why the heck that happend? zudko [1k\]: hey, what kinf of tournement is it? ] ;B[gq] ;W[gr]C[Gonzalate [4d?\]: I guess time press or something EGF4 [?\]: this is Grand prix final EGF4 [?\]: Ben0 resigned. Gonzalate [4d?\]: man this is just so sad Shamash [?\]: Damn EGF4 [?\]: Daniel advances to the semi-finals Shamash [?\]: was he that behind to try this ? Gonzalate [4d?\]: connecting and he was fine frederic [2d\]: totally Gonzalate [4d?\]: he was not behind after saving the stones Gonzalate [4d?\]: it was yose game anton007 [-\]: Daniel is lucky as hell Veedee [-\]: Hu is strong, but also lucky. anton007 [-\]: Against Pavol also Gonzalate [4d?\]: yeah KA0S [2d\]: luck is part of your skills Veedee [-\]: Lisy made aubelievably bad blunder in round 1 anton007 [-\]: Not in the games like this anton007 [-\]: It's just 2 15 k blunders anton007 [-\]: Unbelievable albatros [6d\]: xd Gonzalate [4d?\]: i'm speechless frederic [2d\]: a bit frustrating indeed Shamash [?\]: Bah il était fatigué après avoir réconforté Tanguy toute la nuit Gonzalate [4d?\]: pff Shamash [?\]: Gonza l'indignée Gonzalate [4d?\]: dégoutée surtout Lacan [2d\]: quel brexit ]) (;W[bn]C[only move] ;B[em] ;W[dl]C[DH: still ok for white to win])) (;W[jo]C[DH: disturbingly huge blunder])) (;W[oi]C[DH: I didn't see that I could aim at L8 with this move])) (;W[nj])) (;W[np]C[DH: It seems I should have played here though it seems painful])) (;W[gh]C[DH: It seems I just don't notice cuts like this])) (;W[cl]C[DH: leelazero says this is more important])) (;W[ce]C[DH: more important to get sente on the left here] ;B[bd] ;W[de] ;B[be] ;W[cb] ;B[df] ;W[bg] ;B[bf] ;W[cl])) (;W[kq]C[DH: I didnt see I could play here])) (;W[lp]C[DH: AI says cut is massive, but I was scared of aji] (;B[jp] ;W[lo]) (;B[gq] ;W[eo]C[DH: but leelazero says this is fine for W]))) (;B[oh] ;W[ph] ;B[pg] ;W[og] ;B[nh] ;W[rh] ;B[sg] ;W[qh] ;B[re] ;W[se]C[W wins])) (;W[oh] ;B[le] ;W[qi])) (;B[oq] ;W[mq]C[DH: my understanding is that it is ok for W to tenuki due to this])) (;B[qn] ;W[mq]C[DH: My understanding is that this good for W with J4 far]) (;B[mq] ;W[qo] ;B[oq] ;W[mr] ;B[lq] ;W[lr] ;B[kq] ;W[kr] ;B[jq] ;W[jr] ;B[iq] ;W[rp]C[DH: leelazero suggests this fascinating variation]))