(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1200]OT[1x30 byo-yomi] PW[YilunYang]PB[bigbadwolf]WR[7p]BR[9d]DT[2009-07-25]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[bigbadwolf [9d\]: hello ]RE[B+Time] ;B[qd]BL[1188.672]C[lowmount [19k?\]: may i clone the game? ] ;W[pp]WL[1178.816]C[calm [5k\]: D6! ] ;B[cd]BL[1185.709] ;W[cp]WL[1173.308] ;B[oc]BL[1182.212]C[calm [5k\]: Ohh. offering an early fight. ] ;W[ed]WL[1168.102] ;B[gc]BL[1179.475]C[henhen [7k\]: 7p.... Sheeple [3k\]: you don't have to ask to clone a game. lowmount [19k?\]: it's more like a passive aggressive move, not really offering a fight, but not declining one. Sbetsho [8k\]: omg ] ;W[cc]WL[1149.73]C[Q161 [13k?\]: GO BBW!! Breaker [2k?\]: what is p? ] ;B[bc]BL[1175.348] ;W[dc]WL[1147.739]C[samuraix [3k?\]: hi everybody Sbetsho [8k\]: pro Breaker [2k?\]: joking ... mcw85 [7k\]: Pro dan. ] ;B[df]BL[1172.39]C[Sbetsho [8k\]: resign esko [1k\]: wow, what a game henhen [7k\]: lol? samuraix [3k?\]: is this a real game Breaker [2k?\]: bbw lost samuraix [3k?\]: lol hiiko: 7p? samuraix [3k?\]: lol Breaker [2k?\]: :D! KK henhen [7k\]: LOL ] ;W[bb]WL[1135.387]C[Koreangrl8 [3k\]: its fake. samuraix [3k?\]: thx henhen [7k\]: teaching game xD Mile [7k\]: your face is fake Breaker [2k?\]: Gg for all samuraix [3k?\]: wake me up samuraix [3k?\]: ^^ DanielFox [1k\]: Move 12 and comments are already at the bottom of the stupid barrel Onmyoji [2d\]: w cant teach bbw telchar [1d\]: en meme temps que la partie à 17d, chuis sur que c'est un complot Sheeple [3k\]: not at the bottom yet. Sheeple [3k\]: w really dan? Breaker [2k?\]: GO BBW!! he will beat all 7ps YilunYang [7p\]: hello samuraix [3k?\]: bbw is the best of best ] ;B[be]BL[1139.003]C[whatisgo [1d\]: is this game advertizing something? ] ;W[ac]WL[1128.618]C[henhen [7k\]: GUYS ] ;B[fe]BL[1136.763]C[Breaker [2k?\]: hey they can listen us? Mile [7k\]: I don't think so. henhen [7k\]: watch the game b4 this one.... Lior [1d?\]: . henhen [7k\]: 330 PPL!! Oroth [3k\]: its advertising the enclave ReemBD [3d\]: wow she's dam hot Kumoriha [-\]: DONATE TO THE ENCLAVE TO SEE MORE PRO VS 9D GAMES ] ;W[qi]WL[1112.869]C[Breaker [2k?\]: they can listen us? Onmyoji [2d\]: yes whatisgo [1d\]: oh now I see :) Breaker [2k?\]: danm.. sorry for my idiot coments so i didnt knew calm [5k\]: B oc in UL. ] ;B[nq]BL[1111.202] ;W[pn]WL[1108.626]C[Farouche [-\]: looks better for W already O.o Sheeple [3k\]: no they can't. it's a free game. Breaker [2k?\]: ok Breaker [2k?\]: ;P BenjaminGl [12k\]: eat more ham, love the turkey GoJohnGo [9k\]: *sigh* Breaker [2k?\]: b looks over concentred ] ;B[eq]BL[1082.588]C[lowmount [19k?\]: w's playing very solidly, B likes the taste of expanding this game. mcw85 [7k\]: R11 looks better at R10, but what do I know. -_- ] ;W[jq]WL[1094.949]C[Mile [7k\]: I dont understand. Isn't this a free game? Mile [7k\]: they shouldn't be able to see us, onmyoki sadfasd: r11 offers expansion toward the top or the bottom calm [5k\]: !? kevinwm [3k\]: Yes Mile [7k\]: onmyoji* Oroth [3k\]: right, they can't read our comments until the end kevinwm [3k\]: They cannot see these comments calm [5k\]: Taisha kevinwm [3k\]: Only in teaching and demo games Sbetsho [8k\]: they will read all the comments lowmount [19k?\]: e5 would be savy for me. danigabi [6d\]: top left interesting shape calm [5k\]: Breaker [2k?\]: m3? Onmyoji [2d\]: bigbadwolf u so hot ] ;B[cn]BL[1028.789]C[kajzer [10k\]: bigbadwolf looks doable Farouche [-\]: B's position is already inferior, that's scary ] ;W[do]WL[1089.933]C[telchar [1d\]: p stands for Pretty good ] ;B[ad]BL[1026.324]C[kevinwm [3k\]: She can blow my house down any time. Tirno [2d\]: r11 emphasis is on reducing upper right, r10 emphasizes building a position on the right side ] ;W[bd]WL[1078.816] ;B[dn]BL[1024.03]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Bans, please? Breaker [2k?\]: how can he fight whit 7p? Breaker [2k?\]: :)) Yaruki [10k\]: bbw is a guy -.- Javaness [2d\]: *cough* ] ;W[ae]WL[1065.08]C[lowmount [19k?\]: thanks, javaness ] ;B[eo]BL[1021.609] ;W[dq]WL[1064.182]C[danigabi [6d\]: wow Eldar [2d\]: bbw is Andy Liu, 7d from USA Onmyoji [2d\]: doesnt look like a guy to me MssrBlanc [3k\]: fyi, according to the AGA ratings, these two should be the same strength Mile [7k\]: wield the ban hammer! Sbetsho [8k\]: Javaness hasn't still recovered from flu DangoMango [5k\]: bbw ftw! ] ;B[er]BL[990.567] ;W[dr]WL[1062.124]C[Farouche [-\]: There should be banning for destroying good ambiance too :( mcw85 [7k\]: This is bad for white. Farouche [-\]: ;D Breaker [2k?\]: Bad for w? Breaker [2k?\]: ^^ telchar [1d\]: hmmmm danigabi [6d\]: sente here is vital for black to play L4 lowmount [19k?\]: whites using the sharp sword, B is using the bludgeon, if bludgeon hits the sword, the sword flys, if the bludgeon misses, b gets cut. GottaGo [2d?\]: YY loves territory xio [7k\]: big bad for wolf ] ;B[bo]BL[956.653]C[ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: how can this be acceptable for W? ] ;W[bp]WL[1057.403]C[Uberdude [4d?\]: b is powerpuf girl wannagame: b very thin position.. looks oke for whit ketchup [2k\]: moyo~ plusguy [-\]: b is a dude plusguy [-\]: ;p serapis [?\]: The Enclave is proud to bring you an exciting game between a professional 7dan and a KGS 9 dan. This is our second time hosting such an event and remember, if you want a 3rd, drop by our room and donate! It all goes to these games ] ;B[br]BL[940.596]C[Yaruki [10k\]: i think its funny ketchup [2k\]: k4 tildebis [?\]: A2 Oroth [3k\]: carpenter's square CBlue [1k\]: Farouche then bigdoh would be auto-banning himself continously ] ;W[ep]WL[1034.633]C[Uberdude [4d?\]: b bad aji Uberdude [4d?\]: e4 ko ] ;B[fp]BL[935.107]C[Aliens243 [5k?\]: nice game Breaker [2k?\]: wow ] ;W[dp]WL[1032.516]C[Farouche [-\]: That's about what I meant to say lol Uberdude [4d?\]: or jsut connect! Uberdude [4d?\]: and b many cuts Breaker [2k?\]: g3? Uberdude [4d?\]: b is so thin everywhere Kumoriha [-\]: B should have just fixed, i think... Uberdude [4d?\]: how is he doing so badly? Uberdude [4d?\]: noramlly bbw plays good thick moves Aphelion02 [9k\]: w isn't dead inside? Uberdude [4d?\]: no CBlue [1k\]: bbw beat mingjiu 7p in tournament before, if i'm correct ^^' Onmyoji [2d\]: 7p vs 9d and no handicap??? calm [5k\]: I hate carpenters squares. What is the status of the W grolup in LL? adhitthana [1d\]: sorry, but what tournament is this one? Uberdude [4d?\]: locally ko ] ;B[fq]BL[882.936]C[Farouche [-\]: Picture irritates himself Breaker [2k?\]: is this a teaching or serious game? ketchup [2k\]: o3 lonely f3 sad! Farouche [-\]: too much local thickness imo lol henhen [7k\]: teaching ] ;W[fo]WL[1020.344]C[tildebis [?\]: serious Elscouta [2k\]: hard to win a ko with such a weak outside Oroth [3k\]: serious.. ] ;B[en]BL[879.773] ;W[go]WL[1019.396] ;B[hp]BL[877.784]C[iqvilopus [6k\]: seki ketchup [2k\]: k5 Mile [7k\]: at higher levels, I believe handicaps are used less often. ] ;W[gp]WL[1003.164]C[Q161 [13k?\]: 9d never receive handi ] ;B[hq]BL[874.148]C[henhen [7k\]: 9d=2p ] ;W[ho]WL[998.342]C[danigabi [6d\]: i think wmade mistake sadfasd: unless for fun xianwu [3k\]: who is higher? p or d? ketchup [2k\]: no more seki because of e1? Sbetsho [8k\]: p Mile [7k\]: d henhen [7k\]: p Breaker [2k?\]: d Onmyoji [2d\]: d danigabi [6d\]: i think B18 should be somewhere else henhen [7k\]: lol d Q161 [13k?\]: p is a title CBlue [1k\]: hey nice kikashi @ g4 Mile [7k\]: gah Q161 [13k?\]: its not a rank Breaker [2k?\]: d CBlue [1k\]: so proish :) whatisgo [1d\]: phd henhen [7k\]: p isnt rank tho NarNar123: neither, p doesn't denote rank ] ;B[gq]BL[844.393]C[henhen [7k\]: its pro d Javaness [2d\]: yawn Yaruki [10k\]: lol Farouche [-\]: I don"t understand that game. Eldar [2d\]: lol Farouche [-\]: EVERYTHING looks weird Uberdude [4d?\]: which is bigger? a mile or 10 seconds? Javaness [2d\]: just watch, don't comment on their rank all day sadfasd: p isa job Eldar [2d\]: how can this many people play go and not know what 'p' means Breaker [2k?\]: m4 henhen [7k\]: lol uber ] ;W[ip]WL[976.828]C[Mile [7k\]: A mile. atarihuana [1k\]: p means power norg [4k\]: k2 Breaker [2k?\]: j2 Sheeple [3k\]: w can live in the corner without ko with one move? danigabi [6d\]: no Vinicius [1d\]: no Yaruki [10k\]: P means Ph43r me! xio [7k\]: p is for prowess ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: k2 tildebis [?\]: no danigabi [6d\]: corner is ko Eldar [2d\]: no wannagame: b2 now looks like a uberplay.. DangoMango [5k\]: p means godlike! danigabi [6d\]: period Eldar [2d\]: 1 outside liberty means ko NarNar123: yilun yang is a great teacher, he came to my club about a year ago CBlue [1k\]: uber, in the night it's colder than outside :/ telchar [1d\]: d = débutant et k = konfirmé danigabi [6d\]: without outside liberty its also ko Elscouta [2k\]: ko if w plqys first, dead if b plays plusguy [-\]: w is not planning on saving D2 Eldar [2d\]: seal b side in first plusguy [-\]: w is sacrificing it in order to capture big area along with o3 Eldar [2d\]: then start ko later Onmyoji [2d\]: i think w very strong sadfasd: not capturing anything danigabi [6d\]: i dont think so plusguy nickBlake [2d?\]: when in doubt, cut. sadfasd: maybe creating influence alone danigabi [6d\]: the cut at j5 is both severe and sente harlej9 [2k\]: b k2? bistrogo [3d\]: good kibbitz onmyoji xianwu [3k\]: who is higher? p or d? Najaye [8k\]: p Lorizael [7k\]: p norg [4k\]: If b lives, does w die, or is it ko? wannagame: o3 still miai stone.. run or corner lowmount [19k?\]: hardly, w's not going to sacrifice something so early without a clear vision of the future board status. for both, i think Yaruki [10k\]: bah dumb questions mcw85 [7k\]: W may be pro. Eldar [2d\]: looks like hane is a little overplay? jsc [9k\]: how does a 9d compare to a 7p??? Uberdude [4d?\]: wannagame, w plays p3 Lotus [1k\]: not higher, just different. Uberdude [4d?\]: then loses corner and run wannagame: both players have about the same AGA rating CBlue [1k\]: w's pulling a pro on b here NarNar123: rofl mcw drau [7k\]: cut ! ] ;B[jr]BL[721.619]C[xianwu [3k\]: how do u get to p? Farouche [-\]: What's going on ay norg [4k\]: BBW beat Jie Li, so he must be in with a chance against a pro :P ] ;W[kr]WL[973.011]C[fortheroad [4d\]: good to see yilun playing ] ;B[ir]BL[718.187] ;W[kq]WL[971.491]C[Kumoriha [-\]: Small chance though. sadfasd: hmm danigabi [6d\]: if w gets e1 in sente.. he is alive harlej9 [2k\]: c2? Sbetsho [8k\]: what are their AGA ratings? xianwu [3k\]: how u get 2 p? Eldar [2d\]: kill the corner now ^^ Vinicius [1d\]: best move to kill corne is? Kumoriha [-\]: Pass the pro exam. cascada [4k\]: Hi, Kumoriha. Farouche [-\]: YY intentionally giving himself a bad start to catch up in a fascinating way later Javaness [2d\]: white has a nice outside mcw85 [7k\]: First you have to be 1p. Kumoriha [-\]: I'm not Kumoriha. cascada [4k\]: Ok. ] ;B[io]BL[654.598]C[fortheroad [4d\]: carpenters square always confuses me kajzer [10k\]: i think mr is strong, i heard he has beaten shygost once^^ Q161 [13k?\]: especially since its a triangle sadfasd: mm ] ;W[gm]WL[956.395]C[sadfasd: w dont look very god even now ketchup [2k\]: yilun yang has beaten shygost tons of times Yaruki [10k\]: BBW is making his Go Stones do backflips again sadfasd: good* ketchup [2k\]: he TAUGHT shygost harlej9 [2k\]: j6? ] ;B[in]BL[638.03]C[ketchup [2k\]: m4 soon? ] ;W[hm]WL[943.718] ;B[jp]BL[636.021]C[sadfasd: mm Steward [6k\]: что то проглядел 7р угол, не вериться что это жертва Uberdude [4d?\]: i doubt beatng shygost is #1 of yilun yang's achievement sadfasd: then now attack d6 ? ketchup [2k\]: uberdude indeed ketchup [2k\]: but someone mentioned it :P norg [4k\]: Perhaps w should have considered not taking the ko in the upper left iqvilopus [6k\]: а разве в углу не секи? ] ;W[iq]WL[918.211]C[Sheeple [3k\]: outside gone maybe rayah [5k\]: Can someone please tell me... why does the 7p have KGS+? >.> ] ;B[lp]BL[629.145]C[Breaker [2k?\]: lol b Test123 [4k\]: он фору даёт ))) KuKu [3k\]: умереть должне угол вроде ketchup [2k\]: white c9 will hurt? CBlue [1k\]: shygost was 4d or..? aaaau [5k\]: пока смерть наверно Oloril [1k\]: in order to teach rayah norg [4k\]: Can a move such as g2 not live? sadfasd: pros get kgs plus for free Uberdude [4d?\]: rayah, he gives kgs+ lecturres wannagame: 2 learn from kyu Steward [6k\]: КуКу привет) iqvilopus [6k\]: там секи rayah [5k\]: Ah.... :o KuKu [3k\]: привет )) Test123 [4k\]: это план такой KuKu [3k\]: смерть должна быть там Uberdude [4d?\]: i like w's books whatisgo [1d\]: he is a teacher at KGS+ aaaau [5k\]: да iqvilopus [6k\]: это стандарт iqvilopus [6k\]: там секи Elsien [9k\]: he gets paid to have the golden hexagon of power ] ;W[mr]WL[863.624]C[aaaau [5k\]: ты сам не стандарт Sheeple [3k\]: don't be greedy now :) Aphelion02 [9k\]: w looks in trouble// Oloril [1k\]: if the game ends early will they play anouther one? calm [5k\]: Russians plase clone another board and watch there. Faux [-\]: Why? Farouche [-\]: http://www.gogameworld.com/gophp/playerinfo.php?id=384 jsc [9k\]: so they can talk about the game together =) norg [4k\]: Is b alive? valar [25k\]: lol why should they? kajzer [10k\]: no rusians here pleasee Aphelion02 [9k\]: l2 looks dead Mile [7k\]: what's that? Aphelion02 [9k\]: to a 9k Oroth [3k\]: i have a feeling something is going to die norg [4k\]: Nothing wrong with russians Faux [-\]: I don't see the problem with them chatting here. CBlue [1k\]: p2? valar [25k\]: racists Steward [6k\]: дискриминация Q161 [13k?\]: imo some people about to get the boot Javaness [2d\]: no racism please calm [5k\]: So it doesn't distract here. KuKu [3k\]: ы) norg [4k\]: This isn't even the english game room! aaaau [5k\]: tnx Breaker [2k?\]: lol fortheroad [4d\]: contentious start to game EugeneZ [6k\]: типа флэшмоб - устроим тут филиал русского чата! Sheeple [3k\]: hello, mr godwin. rayah [5k\]: what if Black has become accustomed to winning by komi :o Farouche [-\]: I think it's nice to read caracters you don't understand GoJohnGo [9k\]: distract from what exactly? Lorizael [7k\]: ... sadfasd: distract the kibitz? it already seems like another language Sarcasm [?\]: hmm y not k1 first Lorizael [7k\]: No body can stop this? :S Faux [-\]: The kibbitz is distracting anyway. ] ;B[nr]BL[527.78]C[norg [4k\]: Nobody will tell me if b needs another move to be alive at the bottom :( jsc [9k\]: no one can actually read the kibitz that goes this fast anyway sadfasd: yes norg Nightcat [5k\]: Personaly, I'm Ukrainian, but I still speak russian Farouche [-\]: Thou shan't stop the kibitz. norg [4k\]: :) Lorizael [7k\]: If I clone the game I'll see the commentary's of YIlun and BigBadWolf? Sheeple [3k\]: no Nightcat [5k\]: It's considered an international language in Eastern Europe dsaun [1d\]: clone is moves only sadfasd: theeyre not commentarying danigabi [6d\]: w in trouble here Eldar [2d\]: doesn't matter until the center bottom is resolved Onmyoji [2d\]: only canadian or english plz danigabi [6d\]: n3 n4 o4 q3 kajzer [10k\]: but they dont coment anyway choboco [1k\]: noone in east europe learns russian unless you life in russia plusguy [-\]: well i think speaking a certain language in a place with international people is not polite plusguy [-\]: :p mcw85 [7k\]: Would be a nice option to filter kibitz in cloned games. adhitthana [1d\]: shouldnt w beat b easily? telchar [1d\]: noir est toujour pas vivant en ba norg [4k\]: Surely b can't reasonably hope to kill this group? Javaness [2d\]: you can speak in whatever language you want so long as it is about the game danigabi [6d\]: why no norg? Denniskutl [2d\]: w dies simply? ] ;W[mq]WL[786.619]C[choboco [1k\]: w is probably not trying to crush him but to have a nice game ] ;B[np]BL[524.214]C[sadfasd: plusguy, why dont you go to oro and speak english there? Yaruki [10k\]: shouldnt B beat W easily =.= whats with these questions Farouche [-\]: Then I'd see another probelm Javaness :D kajzer [10k\]: how would we know sadfasd: maybe they will consider you rude danigabi [6d\]: wow Mile [7k\]: Yaruki, no. xio [7k\]: some people still learn russian, but not as many as before in eastern europe Javaness [2d\]: unless the organiser of this match specifically instructs not to danigabi [6d\]: mm Breaker [2k?\]: w ok? mcw85 [7k\]: 7k > 7p You heard it hear first. Faux [-\]: W out? wannagame: n4 was not possbile becasue of l4 danigabi [6d\]: no danigabi [6d\]: i read w dead Breaker [2k?\]: sh** Breaker [2k?\]: ;() Oogway [2k\]: how do you judge if it's about the game when they speak russian? Faux [-\]: Same D: danigabi [6d\]: too few libs harlej9 [2k\]: yes, now we dont have to! Mile [7k\]: nothing is easy when you're playing 7P Q161 [13k?\]: if it can be killed bbw can do it xio [7k\]: by reading ? :) plusguy [-\]: they dont speak about the game Faux [-\]: Poor w :/ Onmyoji [2d\]: which admin here speaks russian? cascada [4k\]: yeah w dies Elsien [9k\]: how about ... stop cluttering up chat further by talking about those that wish to speak in russian telchar [1d\]: ya pas un supersuji quelconque pour cette forme , sadfasd: k1 now Sbetsho [8k\]: they did Oloril [1k\]: something bad happened, how did the pro die so fast? Denniskutl [2d\]: pros dont die like that, should get compensation somewhere else Koemi [-\]: danigabi, can't o4 be killed? adhitthana [1d\]: w too careless Breaker [2k?\]: l5? kajzer [10k\]: they stoped if you didnt notice lowmount [-\]: shouldn't w now k5 then nobi then cut? Mile [7k\]: not stopped. Mile [7k\]: thinking. Nightcat [5k\]: l3 isn't dead lowmount [-\]: nobi twice sorry Sbetsho [8k\]: stopped to think norg [4k\]: This all started when he got overconfident and took the ko :P sadfasd: k1 dxxd [-\]: w probably has some nice tesuji soon Faux [-\]: I think w may live >.>; aussiemate [6k\]: escapers ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: pros who teach a lot and don't play as mcuh, they just don't stay as sharp Tirno [2d\]: ko was huge though xio [7k\]: escapesuji probably cascada [4k\]: like you chem? cascada [4k\]: xD Breaker [2k?\]: escapesuji :D Javaness [2d\]: when was Yilun Yang a competitve pro? Yaruki [10k\]: lol ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: haha cascada [4k\]: im jk jk cascada [4k\]: :) Farouche [-\]: http://www.gogameworld.com/gophp/playerinfo.php?id=384 <- Javaness lowmount [-\]: anyone who wish's to figure out how to strategically evade blacks manuevers please come to my clone Farouche [-\]: Apparently he's won some tournaments in the past Mile [7k\]: what's the link? AroundOneD [2d\]: l4 dxxd [-\]: they should make escaping easier by pressing [esc\] Nightcat [5k\]: l4 gives W life TheMagic [3k\]: gogameworld might the ugliest website on the internet CBlue [1k\]: K1? :-p cascada [4k\]: l4 l5 sadfasd: thought you say that is javaness Farouche [-\]: Agrred Denniskutl [2d\]: at least we learn that pros also read along the play: i thought he read everything about b o3 cascada [4k\]: l4 l5 Breaker [2k?\]: l4 l5 Oogway [2k\]: l4 l5 m5 Javaness [2d\]: so he stopped since about 1981? kajzer [10k\]: ha! he is fat, and not so young! cascada [4k\]: then m4 CaesarJMD [3k\]: is d4 dead? Faux [-\]: w is out D: Farouche [-\]: I suppose ProGoVerb [5k\]: Is there something special about this match? otternase [1d\]: if w moves first he lives with d3..?! Vinicius [1d\]: L4 M5 valar [25k\]: how can they get 7p if they are not compatitive? (don´t know th rules how they get their ranks) Umaguma [3k\]: k1 no good ? pdndar [3k\]: k1 is sente i think Javaness [2d\]: once you earn 7p it never goes away atarihuana [1k\]: k1 no follow up Lorizael [7k\]: He is thinking deeply about it TheMagic [3k\]: what would K1 do? Umaguma [3k\]: oh GotIt [4k\]: I guess G1 better Umaguma [3k\]: no ProGoVerb [5k\]: exebithon match Javaness [2d\]: you have to have been good to earn 7p sadfasd: k1 sente ProGoVerb [5k\]: ? glsm [7k\]: L4 enough t for w fortheroad [4d\]: no room for error , hard position sadfasd: then proceed with w/e he was doing with o4 group norg [4k\]: l4-m5? melchen [4d\]: l4 not work Javaness [2d\]: it's quite a fast game calm [5k\]: Ko here? Uberdude [4d?\]: valar, chinese pro ranks were handed out at trhe beginning AroundOneD [2d\]: w has l5 and l6 fgfdd88: game over ? Uberdude [4d?\]: so you didn't have to work up from 1p Faux [-\]: there's a ko, but I think w died. jsc [9k\]: what the...this whole time I thought BBW was white ProGoVerb [5k\]: "Get ur chinese pro ranks at the door" Breaker [2k?\]: l5 suji Sheeple [3k\]: l4 l5 k5 l6 valar [25k\]: for real? tildebis [?\]: I think W can kill H3 with ko Uberdude [4d?\]: maybe yilun yang was 7p from start based on his strength YukiStone [3k\]: k5? valar [25k\]: oh ok cascada [4k\]: not k6 cascada [4k\]: l6 Lorizael [7k\]: ... Breaker [2k?\]: zzz Q161 [13k?\]: l4 AroundOneD [2d\]: maybe no ko Breaker [2k?\]: l4 l5 Breaker [2k?\]: .zzz otternase [1d\]: b wiil get p5 ? NarNar123: top players taking their time on kgs? NarNar123: this could be good glsm [7k\]: l4 -l5 -n5 Breaker [2k?\]: thats desapointament w dead MssrBlanc [3k\]: yes, but when Chinese Professional ranks were started, Ma Xiaochun was 7p, and Yu Bin was only 3p ] ;W[mp]WL[402.947] ;B[mo]BL[518.198]C[telchar [1d\]: un coup qui ne manque pas d'un certain esprit d'à-propos akiba [8k?\]: can't believe bigbadwolf is another one of these "cutie avatar" culprits ] ;W[no]WL[397.82]C[aussiemate [6k\]: Hamlet has discovered the dog next door. They have great fun barking at each other aaaau [5k\]: j2 must die choboco [1k\]: 3p can be stronger than 7p anyway.. who cares about ranks there^^ rayah [5k\]: tricky :o Q161 [13k?\]: l4 l5 k5 Onmyoji [2d\]: 3p not stronger than 7p Javaness [2d\]: this might just work sadfasd: r2 Koemi [-\]: ... so it turned out to be a corner fight? :/ cascada [4k\]: new korean pros are 1p but stronger than old 9p kittie99 [3d\]: 7p is technically not stronger then 3p Breaker [2k?\]: 3p cant be stronger than 9p Lorizael [7k\]: Professional ranking is different Lorizael [7k\]: :S kittie99 [3d\]: the rank maybe higher tildebis [?\]: of course 3p can be strongeer than 7p valar [25k\]: well i thought they must win lots of games to get 7p but it doesn´t seem so kittie99 [3d\]: but its quite possible for a 3p to beata 7p tildebis [?\]: because it is not possible to loose pro rank norg [4k\]: Can't l4 at least capture l2? Elsien [9k\]: who was the 20 year old that beat someoen very strong in the Go world? I am unfamiliar with names shinigami [3d?\]: pro ranks are a reflection of their achievements in tournaments, not their strength Breaker [2k?\]: in 20 matchs 7p win 17 and 3p wins 3 :) atarihuana [1k\]: l4 m5 i suppose Q161 [13k?\]: no tildebis [?\]: 7p can't become 6p even if weaker with time Farouche [-\]: There are tons of those youngsters mgoetze [1d\]: could you please stop the pro ranks discussion - it has been discussed to death many times on kgs Faux [-\]: w is good >_> ] ;B[kp]BL[415.841]C[Farouche [-\]: Kang Dongyun won the Fujistu no long ago sadfasd: oh, its trolling now? Koemi [-\]: yah l4 m5 n6 k5 Thorvald [7k\]: to death ? nice..... Farouche [-\]: Tuo Jaxi currently destroys top Chinese professionnal Rythmic [7k\]: new noobs all the time with same old questions... Aphelion02 [9k\]: semeai! Breaker [2k?\]: m5 Farouche [-\]: It's ugle Farouche [-\]: y kajzer [10k\]: so what mgoetze? rayah [5k\]: When will the admins upgrade to having flashing red text? norg [4k\]: I guessed that move! :D ProGoVerb [5k\]: dont comment on it, when an admin speaks to you respect it without further trolling raft [3k\]: speaking bold is cool. can u also speak in red ? norg [4k\]: I feel so good now kiddai [6k\]: yes valar [25k\]: well there are new players who doesn´t know about it danigabi [6d\]: w is dead danigabi [6d\]: simply NarNar123: m3? atarihuana [1k\]: m5 danigabi [6d\]: game is truly impossible for w Aphelion02 [9k\]: 1 has 1 less liberty? Sheeple [3k\]: do we have to respect suckups without further trolling too? Oogway [2k\]: p4? Lorizael [7k\]: Blanco está fuera Danigabi lowmount [-\]: danigabi Aphelion02 [9k\]: w has 1 less liberty? Oloril [1k\]: k5 Lorizael [7k\]: Ahora verás la que se está guardando Breaker [2k?\]: q2 lowmount [-\]: may i ask question that is not rude? mgoetze [1d\]: well valar, they can read up on it on sensei's library Koemi [-\]: m5 should work, right? ReemBD [3d\]: N6 first no? calm [5k\]: No. W not dead. tildebis [?\]: I did not get why W did not play L4 first, give one lib... Yaruki [10k\]: k1,h1,g2,h2,g1 valar [25k\]: that´s true :) calm [5k\]: M5 or p4? ] ;W[or]WL[303.866]C[norg [4k\]: w is going to proSuji his way out :P Vinicius [1d\]: n6 helps black Breaker [2k?\]: p2 hm sadfasd: i will start my own go server ] ;B[ks]BL[409.204]C[rayah [5k\]: I was thinking that :D Mot [4k\]: ko again Breaker [2k?\]: baddness Breaker [2k?\]: =))) Aphelion02 [9k\]: are there enough ko threats.. norg [4k\]: m1? ProGoVerb [5k\]: m1 ProGoVerb [5k\]: =? sadfasd: m1 m3 Breaker [2k?\]: m1 ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: m1 m3 xianwu [3k\]: norg [4k\]: Oh, I see! cascada [4k\]: yeah m1 m3 henhen [7k\]: white ez owned? Mile [7k\]: I think the players should have been given a bit more time. cascada [4k\]: yeah Vinicius [1d\]: w dead for sure Redjoker [3d\]: is w a pro ? :D Breaker [2k?\]: owned cascada [4k\]: white owned AroundOneD [2d\]: w basically dead norg [4k\]: 9d is cleverer than me Lorizael [7k\]: O1? Onmyoji [2d\]: its game over Breaker [2k?\]: is he pro? Oogway [2k\]: l1 is kinda unexpected wawaweewa [6k\]: w going to sacrifice l3 i think... Breaker [2k?\]: Kk Elscouta [2k\]: n5 seems the only option to save half kittie99 [3d\]: yes rayah [5k\]: In Go, ] ;W[mn]WL[246.888]C[kittie99 [3d\]: w is a pro Souler [3k?\]: b too rayah [5k\]: DON'T follow you instincts xio [7k\]: why not o1? Breaker [2k?\]: is he 7p? henhen [7k\]: just saive the n2? ] ;B[lo]BL[395.264]C[kajzer [10k\]: mr proyoung is not that pro mgoetze [1d\]: o1 m2 cascada [4k\]: ....wow LordLestat [8k\]: really a great game^^ ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: o1 m2 danigabi [6d\]: result is not satisfactory.. EugeneZ [6k\]: w got pwned Sbetsho [8k\]: heh.. nice poem "In Go, w is a pro" henhen [7k\]: p4! wawaweewa [6k\]: w going to sacrifice l3 i think... ] ;W[ns]WL[233.529]C[Javaness [2d\]: feels like white is lost to me ProGoVerb [5k\]: o1 m3 Elscouta [2k\]: unexpected... norg [4k\]: m2 danigabi [6d\]: mm Rythmic [7k\]: not newboot [3d\]: wow ] ;B[ms]BL[383.85]C[danigabi [6d\]: can b o6? Lorizael [7k\]: He is out Uberdude [4d?\]: well, at least w got big corner Ruzinus [5k?\]: The game is not over. Rythmic [7k\]: only move Thorvald [7k\]: M2 melchen [4d\]: up left hassome potential for a pro henhen [7k\]: lol? Lorizael [7k\]: ... henhen [7k\]: ko? ProGoVerb [5k\]: black wants more ] ;W[ls]WL[221.019]C[cascada [4k\]: not ko kiddai [6k\]: now this is unexpected.. sadfasd: ok this seems a little greedy ] ;B[lq]BL[379.864]C[henhen [7k\]: nvm kajzer [10k\]: sacrifice, heh, he has no choice, its dead norg [4k\]: :D henhen [7k\]: greedylol Lorizael [7k\]: Not ko :S sadfasd: ohh sadfasd: nvm danigabi [6d\]: b should have o6 at some point it seems Vinicius [1d\]: only to get sente Oogway [2k\]: this i beyond me Q161 [13k?\]: n3 lives danigabi [6d\]: now its not forcing? rayah [5k\]: Capture in sente? :O Q161 [13k?\]: l3 dies jsc [9k\]: k1 =D eemhdbmy: who is usa who is canada ] ;W[bm]WL[195.786]C[kittie99 [3d\]: k1 bad move Breaker [2k?\]: ;D!! sadfasd: wrong game eem norg [4k\]: That was quite awesome calm [5k\]: ! henhen [7k\]: eh?! ProGoVerb [5k\]: BBW USA Javaness [2d\]: *blinks* kittie99 [3d\]: k1 m1 l1 j1 henhen [7k\]: b+res? kittie99 [3d\]: bad ] ;B[ap]BL[361.78]C[kittie99 [3d\]: idea calm [5k\]: W backs off? henhen [7k\]: tsk black wins hands down slinky [-\]: o.O? ] ;W[aq]WL[184.819]C[CBlue [1k\]: i dont get b7's purpose at all rayah [5k\]: BBQ ] ;B[ao]BL[358.142]C[Faux [-\]: w generous ] ;W[bq]WL[184.123]C[charkysan [6k\]: save k1 as a ko threat? kittie99 [3d\]: still chance for white to win henhen [7k\]: o... cstoner [3k\]: k1 doesn't work: k1 m2 l1 j1 norg [4k\]: c1/2? henhen [7k\]: tyhreatening c6? NarNar123: I predict an amazing comeback :) slinky [-\]: shhh everyone we must remember white is a pro~! ] ;B[dk]BL[333.54]C[telchar [1d\]: b has d9, w should p7 henhen [7k\]: alive ketchup [2k\]: eye vs no eye? MssrBlanc [3k\]: k1 is a ko threat--k1, h2 mgoetze [1d\]: b7 is a desperate do or die attack, i guess akiba [8k?\]: is this a teaching game? Mile [7k\]: pro does not mean infallible. Rythmic [7k\]: i predict a quick resign ketchup [2k\]: this is a game game henhen [7k\]: yep MssrBlanc [3k\]: rather, h2 if B ignored k1 Thmayu [3d\]: unbelievable b is way ahead newboot [3d\]: b seem to have the lesd adhitthana [1d\]: so L2 is part of a plan? sadfasd: g5 feel the heat kittie99 [3d\]: pro dont mean nothing danigabi [6d\]: lol why unbelievable ] ;W[cr]WL[159.379]C[henhen [7k\]: b is ahead by too much danigabi [6d\]: b is 9d kittie99 [3d\]: rpo is jsut stating they know what there doing Geared [2k\]: pro doesnt mean infallably but it means way better than us Breaker [2k?\]: ok cho chikun is nothing kittie99 [3d\]: *pro ] ;B[nn]BL[329.403]C[Geared [2k\]: combined Breaker [2k?\]: =// henhen [7k\]: 9d=2p whatisgo [1d\]: live in gote from a pro come on kittie99 [3d\]: it dotn mean there way better then us either lowmount [-\]: amateurs are just as capable at beating pro if they know enough. ] ;W[oo]WL[137.201]C[Sbetsho [8k\]: kittie99: does that mean that it DOES mean something? cstoner [3k\]: 9d might be > 7d if this game doesn't turn around :) Souler [3k?\]: he is 3p i think rayah [5k\]: The admins already put the bold up >.< norg [4k\]: BBW beat Jie Li, there is no telling how strong he is henhen [7k\]: ?? Javaness [2d\]: K1 seemed fine to me henhen [7k\]: p4 already? CBlue [1k\]: K8? rayah [5k\]: They DO need flashing red >.< fortheroad [4d\]: wolf is crazy strong so not surprising he is going to win a lot of these match ups sadfasd: thats why you are not 9d java Rajan [11k\]: dan level has no pro level equivalent. dan level shows skill, pro level just shows how far a player has progressed in pro level kittie99 [3d\]: it looks but but then b m1 Faux [-\]: k1 doesn't' work ><; Rajan [11k\]: atleast, I think :3 nickBlake [2d?\]: he also beat mingjiu in a tournament finals norg [4k\]: Is this game in honour of anything? xio [7k\]: if 7p had a rank at kgs, he would also be 9d freddygo [5k\]: bbw isnt just 9 dan, if you look at his graph, hes 10 dan if they make it possible nickBlake [2d?\]: so beating a 7p is nothing new to him whatisgo [1d\]: this game is for enclave room ] ;B[oj]BL[264.717]C[GottaGo [2d?\]: Living in gote in LL was painful norg [4k\]: m2 is going to be big later on for b ] ;W[hj]WL[120.641]C[Battousai [-\]: Yes, this is being hosted via donates given to the enclave kajzer [10k\]: darn, she is sooo pretty ] ;B[fj]BL[251.128]C[Koemi [-\]: w center group need to live..or else it's resignation... = = DangoMango [5k\]: watch h10 die! Mile [7k\]: too bad you will never meet her. Battousai [-\]: this is the second of such games we've hosted and hope to have a 3rd in the future! ] ;W[jj]WL[101.466] ;B[ph]BL[244.902]C[sadfasd: which was first? Aphelion02 [9k\]: w looks like he is getting crushed ] ;W[qh]WL[95.342] ;B[pg]BL[241.801]C[yithril [2d\]: awesome ] ;W[pk]WL[92.949]C[Awesome [4k\]: yes ] ;B[jh]BL[232.502]C[Breaker [2k?\]: that corner worths alooot adhitthana [1d\]: w will resign Mile [7k\]: G5 looks forgotten. :( ] ;W[hh]WL[82.139]C[yithril [2d\]: i come on kgs and what do i see? An awesome game sadfasd: i thought rin kaiho was go seigens student? Battousai [-\]: in the first game we saw bbw playing against a professional 6dan youngil ] ;B[if]BL[227.936]C[yithril [2d\]: yeah he was Onmyoji [2d\]: b win rayah [5k\]: There ARE those who are like 15k in the opening, and 5d in the endgame/fights lowmount [-\]: an young gil, very strong ProGoVerb [5k\]: stop saying resign all the time, i wouldnt give up on white quiet yet Battousai [-\]: youngil won by resign norg [4k\]: Who won in BBW v younggil? sadfasd: the website says Yilun Yang taught him Aphelion02 [9k\]: who is bbw in real life? CBlue [1k\]: b's suddenly playing so strange moves, allowing w to get this shape with center group? ] ;W[li]WL[60.253]C[bucko [-\]: Of course you've heard this before, but what's this game in aid of? Faux [-\]: Andy liu wawaweewa [6k\]: w i 7p.....there is a reason for tht... lowmount [-\]: andy liu a normal human being Rajan [11k\]: Aphelion, BBW = Andy Liu fatihsulak [2d\]: black is making territory Breaker [2k?\]: w is fake! norg [4k\]: Andy Liu is beyond normal lowmount [-\]: aphelion reminds me of a silver dragon. norg [4k\]: Perhaps even beyond human... Sarcasm [?\]: w will win lowmount [-\]: andy liu is not beyond normal. kajzer [10k\]: i have a feeling black will resign soon shohho [3k\]: What is this game? jsc [9k\]: Andy is a strange asian name XD ] ;B[kj]BL[194.574]C[fortheroad [4d\]: w is certainly not fake MChow [7k\]: m2 soon Breaker [2k?\]: i am fake! Breaker [2k?\]: :)) lowmount [-\]: andy liu is a nice guy. Rajan [11k\]: Andy isn't his real name Aphelion02 [9k\]: what i mean is, is he a ex-insei or anything? ] ;W[jg]WL[43.454]C[norg [4k\]: Nobody will play m2 for a while yet ] ;B[ig]BL[191.562]C[sadfasd: O_O ] ;W[ji]WL[40.8] ;B[kg]BL[189.101]C[Breaker [2k?\]: tesujies 0o ] ;W[ki]WL[37.457]C[sadfasd: i love moves like that bucko [-\]: Anyone? ketchup [2k\]: black so strong.. xio [7k\]: is 'Andy' even a name? Breaker [2k?\]: dont works whit bbw Breaker [2k?\]: :)) CBlue [1k\]: n13...? ] ;B[mg]BL[171.853]C[Mile [7k\]: the only person who will play M2 is black... shohho [3k\]: Are these two just playing randomly? Rajan [11k\]: Andy is short for Andrew Shana [2d\]: why does nobody tell me about these things... ProGoVerb [5k\]: uuuh yeah Andy is a name norg [4k\]: I should be going to bed, but this is so much fun! xio [7k\]: in Polish 'Andy' is name of mountains sadfasd: s16 DangoMango [5k\]: andy lau is the best! fatihsulak [2d\]: this is like a 3 stone handicap game now Sheeple [3k\]: that's some moyo. good to see a pro tackle it :P ] ;W[ob]WL[22.789]C[calm [5k\]: Anyone done a count? ProGoVerb [5k\]: Andy Cap CBlue [1k\]: and steven chow ^^ Breaker [2k?\]: ^^ sadfasd: close enough DangoMango [5k\]: Andy Lau owns Andy Liu fortheroad [4d\]: w needs something big.. Harlequin [-\]: u mean stephen chow whatisgo [1d\]: desperate? ] ;B[nc]BL[140.303]C[rayah [5k\]: O17 says a 5k Goseigen [-\]: dango lol ^^ rayah [5k\]: :D ] ;W[pc]WL[16.641] ;B[qc]BL[137.76]C[bucko [-\]: What is this game? yithril [2d\]: "I kill you ] ;W[pd]WL[8.14]C[yithril [2d\]: " kajzer [10k\]: go? ] ;B[qb]BL[134.868]C[ProGoVerb [5k\]: its TEH game CBlue [1k\]: oh yes dsaun [1d\]: game promoting The Enclave, bucko Rajan [11k\]: Liu Zhi Yuan is Andy's real name Uberdude [4d?\]: b vicious Sheeple [3k\]: what's this? w gets nothing? Harlequin [-\]: yare yare danigabi [6d\]: b doesnt cower rayah [5k\]: white's in trouble? :o Breaker [2k?\]: w is crazy ] ;W[pb]WL[30]OW[1]C[rayah [5k\]: Already? danigabi [6d\]: w chance ] ;B[pe]BL[132.28]C[danigabi [6d\]: if w lives.. ] ;W[oe]WL[30]OW[1]C[ProGoVerb [5k\]: white will live Mile [7k\]: white will die. xP whatisgo [1d\]: no way Breaker [2k?\]: proabily read all Breaker [2k?\]: he is not idiot ] ;B[lc]BL[108.123]C[kajzer [10k\]: white tries to tie the score ProGoVerb [5k\]: yes way ProGoVerb [5k\]: wanna bet on it? Breaker [2k?\]: r15 Opsilon: resign Onmyoji [2d\]: resign adhitthana [1d\]: w can res now ] ;W[qe]WL[30]OW[1]C[sadfasd: n16 Breaker [2k?\]: nevr ] ;B[pf]BL[104.361]C[ProGoVerb [5k\]: u can resign now! ] ;W[re]WL[30]OW[1]C[Thmayu [3d\]: this white group can only live through bbw's fault right? ] ;B[rd]BL[101.287] ;W[qg]WL[30]OW[1]C[valar [25k\]: can´t anybody give w time? admins go go :) ] ;B[od]BL[97.891]C[whatisgo [1d\]: so ? ] ;W[cj]WL[30]OW[1]C[Breaker [2k?\]: poor W shohho [3k\]: This game was a paid game... they should overplay its worth DaoLin [1d\]: has wK1 still some potential ? (seki on left?) wQ2+R3 pssible (can bR5 be stopped?) ProGoVerb [5k\]: dont want no resign want a game to the end, this type of game doesnt happen that much Breaker [2k?\]: GEtting owned by bbw Uberdude [4d?\]: bbw is so awesome Mile [7k\]: I think only wolf can give extra time. rayah [5k\]: Black is merciless >.< Onmyoji [2d\]: 30 sec is enough time to press resign Q161 [13k?\]: lol Breaker [2k?\]: now he is overplaying for confuses b Mile [7k\]: silence, you. :/ Oroth [3k\]: only one byo-yomi adhitthana [1d\]: what is this ? CBlue [1k\]: g9 first? ] ;B[bk]BL[57.572]C[adhitthana [1d\]: a teaching game? Q161 [13k?\]: no TheMagic [3k\]: who's being taught? Breaker [2k?\]: W needs handicap Breaker [2k?\]: ^^ mgoetze [1d\]: it's an exhibition game ProGoVerb [5k\]: c9 kajzer [10k\]: amature gives a lesson to pro calm [5k\]: Actually UR big win for W. He got R15 R16 in sente. Sheeple [3k\]: kindof a teaching game now. jsc [9k\]: i wish 400 people would come to watch a game I played=D fiotix [4k\]: i thing bbw is a pro too, and he is not the girl on the picture , i think ] ;W[ck]WL[30]OW[1]C[sadfasd: e12 ] ;B[cl]BL[55.522]C[ProGoVerb [5k\]: b8 dsaun [1d\]: game promoting The Enclave CBlue [1k\]: this development looks so easy for w now ProGoVerb [5k\]: whats The Enclave? ] ;W[dj]WL[30]OW[1]C[sadfasd: b needs to be careful dsaun [1d\]: study room Oroth [3k\]: a room on kgs Ruzinus [5k?\]: didnt you play fallout? Sbetsho [8k\]: SE is utterly confused CBlue [1k\]: i thought b could somehow use h9 aji in his favour Mile [7k\]: he is not the girl in the picture. norg [4k\]: I sometimes think, wouldn't it be funny if everyone went and kibbitzed a 20k game. It'd freak them out no end! :D rayah [5k\]: The girl is just to distract opponents adhitthana [1d\]: wha tis the enclave - the place where dans beat pros and kuys beat dans? kajzer [10k\]: whats the point of asking stupid questions? DaoLin [1d\]: oeps - B group on left could be doomed choboco [1k\]: this doesnt look doomed ] ;B[bj]BL[17.613]C[choboco [1k\]: c10 is doomed aswell^^ DaoLin [1d\]: wait & see :-) ] ;W[dl]WL[30]OW[1] ;B[bl]BL[13.154]C[CBlue [1k\]: E10 bam choboco [1k\]: easy alive ProGoVerb [5k\]: e9 CBlue [1k\]: aw Breaker [2k?\]: w needs hc.. kajzer [10k\]: black will resign after loosing this group danigabi [6d\]: 400 obs here and 300 in the other game Elsien [9k\]: hehe ya ] ;W[js]WL[30]OW[1]C[CBlue [1k\]: looked pretty submissive, was there no other way for b? ] ;B[lr]BL[10.622]C[Nick8a [2k\]: b playing well Q161 [13k?\]: w nice center moyo Elsien [9k\]: would be over 600 if the other game wasnt going on ] ;W[ms]WL[30]OW[1]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: k1 not good Mile [7k\]: center moyo? shohho [3k\]: j1 ] ;B[ks]BL[2.776]C[Oogway [2k\]: time tesuji? ] ;W[kr]WL[30]OW[1]C[xio [7k\]: these are the same people Mile [7k\]: I do not see a center moyo. ] ;B[ek]BL[0.065]C[Oroth [3k\]: doubtful, 300 of the ones here are in the other Faux [-\]: >_> tildebis [?\]: ??? kiddai [6k\]: center moyo? sadfasd: j1 maybe better/ shanku [3k\]: no reason not to spec both Sheeple [3k\]: small? valar [25k\]: think many are in both games Nick8a [2k\]: very nice Thmayu [3d\]: f8 was huge right tildebis [?\]: what was that ???? Sheeple [3k\]: l2? AroundOneD [2d\]: ? shohho [3k\]: why l1 instead of j1 CBlue [1k\]: wow nice that b got this ] ;W[gb]WL[30]OW[1]C[hanen [-\]: timesuji!! Nick8a [2k\]: dont no y w played there Faux [-\]: I don't get that by eith. fairgo1 [1k\]: O_O Onmyoji [2d\]: mistake Faux [-\]: *either AroundOneD [2d\]: e9 so big serapis [?\]: The Enclave is proud to host a rarity on kgs, a game between a 7p and 9dan. Drop by and donate if you wish to see more in the future! jsc [9k\]: Hi fargo1 AroundOneD [2d\]: why l2 ] ;B[fb]BL[30]OB[1]C[shohho [3k\]: how much was this game serapis Fujiwaka [-\]: donate lol ] ;W[fc]WL[30]OW[1] ;B[hb]BL[30]OB[1]C[fairgo1 [1k\]: hi >.> ] ;W[gd]WL[30]OW[1]C[Breaker [2k?\]: lol ] ;B[hc]BL[30]OB[1]C[Uberdude [4d?\]: AroundOneD, spot the atari newboot [3d\]: donate lol kajzer [10k\]: hehe i can still watch with no paying ] ;W[fd]WL[30]OW[1]C[Vinicius [1d\]: L2 = 20 points? kajzer [10k\]: im not a sucker ] ;B[bf]BL[30]OB[1]C[CBlue [1k\]: l1 was sente, j1 was gote, shohho TheCount [2d?\]: what's the enclave? Mile [7k\]: if everybody thought like that, kaj, there would be no game. Battousai [-\]: a room under social, thecount dsaun [1d\]: a study room shohho [3k\]: Yep I understand now CBlue thanks ProGoVerb [5k\]: Serapis is there any aditional info on the enclave? hanen [-\]: somebody fix se please ] ;W[ie]WL[30]OW[1]C[Oroth [3k\]: a room for studying valar [25k\]: wellyou guys say lol but watching this game how do you think they get this lior6 [?\]: wow lior6 [?\]: i just in Breaker [2k?\]: w losted Breaker [2k?\]: .... Mot [4k\]: w win ] ;B[he]BL[30]OB[1]C[Mile [7k\]: it's not broken, the game is just outside SE's limited knowledge lior6 [?\]: wtf lior6 [?\]: w win??? Breaker [2k?\]: nop norg [4k\]: w+1.5 Faux [-\]: >.>; norg [4k\]: That's how pro works RoundTuit [2k\]: language... henhen [7k\]: o.o? ] ;W[hd]WL[30]OW[1] ;B[id]BL[30]OB[1]C[Breaker [2k?\]: haha Harlequin [-\]: wtf is 3 letters henhen [7k\]: you mean w gets points? sadfasd: wow Breaker [2k?\]: its unbeliable henhen [7k\]: err ? Breaker [2k?\]: =0 ] ;W[je]WL[30]OW[1]C[sadfasd: just now i notice humungous right sie Rythmic [7k\]: w still not alive at center wither ] ;B[jd]BL[30]OB[1]C[sadfasd: side* Rythmic [7k\]: either* henhen [7k\]: white has enough space Fujiwaka [-\]: h14 jsc [9k\]: this is just like shindo vs waya game ] ;W[dh]WL[30]OW[1]C[Breaker [2k?\]: who is the 7p now^^ jsc [9k\]: w must make life lol Breaker [2k?\]: :)) Rythmic [7k\]: it can close up really quick if b plays first Harlequin [-\]: ooo sudden disconnection >.> sadfasd: f11 henhen [7k\]: ??? ] ;B[os]BL[30]OB[1]C[ketchup [2k\]: wow both in SD.. ] ;W[ps]WL[30]OW[1]C[Sbetsho [8k\]: "there is a way to live, but it's hard to see" wawaweewa [6k\]: w is all over the place...! palmodei [7k\]: Yilun YAng is not a professional Breaker [2k?\]: wtf CBlue [1k\]: J12 Sheeple [3k\]: there was only 1 byo period. ketchup [2k\]: oh cring [6k\]: time move lior6 [?\]: he is ] ;B[fh]BL[30]OB[1]C[calm [5k\]: time tesuji Breaker [2k?\]: timesuji ;D! freddygo [5k\]: white's loss in the centre bottom is not big because his right corner is much bigger Javaness [2d\]: palmodei don't talk rubbish please hanen [-\]: pretty bold statement, palm lior6 [?\]: big wolf strong Breaker [2k?\]: thats cheating palmodei [7k\]: he live in usa? ] ;W[eg]WL[30]OW[1]C[jsc [9k\]: w does CBlue [1k\]: J12! Q161 [13k?\]: both lior6 [?\]: b strong like pro shwab [10k\]: im sorry but i have to say this,,,, she is fucking hot!! jsc [9k\]: ... ] ;B[ge]BL[30]OB[1]C[sadfasd: ban. mcw85 [7k\]: Ban. Rajan [11k\]: shwab, language Q161 [13k?\]: boot. Faux [-\]: ... Analysis [2d\]: ban Breaker [2k?\]: ban henhen [7k\]: ban ] ;W[fg]WL[30]OW[1]C[Faux [-\]: boot sadfasd: lmao Sbetsho [8k\]: bancake ketchup [2k\]: lol wow henhen [7k\]: lol jSd [8k\]: ban Uberdude [4d?\]: ship Harlequin [-\]: dont ban him Uberdude [4d?\]: dog Javaness [2d\]: Everyone please behave Uberdude [4d?\]: top hat Yaruki [10k\]: tired of hearing the same thing =P akiba [8k?\]: off with his head ] ;B[ee]BL[30]OB[1]C[Harlequin [-\]: that kid speaks the truth Harlequin [-\]: ;D ] ;W[de]WL[30]OW[1]C[Mile [7k\]: the admin shall swing the ban hammer... and cave in your face. henhen [7k\]: yeah but that conversation was a while ago Shana [2d\]: its like a sea of piranhas... ] ;B[ef]BL[30]OB[1]C[Rythmic [7k\]: lol why? the picture is there if it's inappropriate the one having it should be banned, not the one talking about it ] ;W[cg]WL[30]OW[1]C[Breaker [2k?\]: now we can see w strenght Breaker [2k?\]: ;D! henhen [7k\]: its not inappropriate ] ;B[cf]BL[30]OB[1]C[mgoetze [1d\]: don't troll, rythmic Faux [-\]: pro :3 Mile [7k\]: the one talking about it should use proper language for a family server. valar [25k\]: i think some guys should get a nice one so they don´t have to write it anymore... ketchup [2k\]: feels like white being greedy here henhen [7k\]: its a picture of a girl whom does not reveal anything ] ;W[hg]WL[30]OW[1]C[Yaruki [10k\]: i think Yilun is going Easy on BBW imo ketchup [2k\]: i hope it backfires jsc [9k\]: if it were a guy in the pic you wouldnt have said its innaporporate probably... Breaker [2k?\]: i think yulin is playing shindo go Breaker [2k?\]: =S ] ;B[mm]BL[30]OB[1]C[otternase [1d\]: wow henhen [7k\]: yeah going easy ] ;W[eb]WL[30]OW[1]C[jon6660 [-\]: girls shouldnt look that good , on a family server sadfasd: he really did get banned lol ] ;B[ga]BL[30]OB[1]C[TheCount [2d?\]: so who's the girl in the pic? henhen [7k\]: lol? Elsien [9k\]: lol ] ;W[mh]WL[30]OW[1]C[Harlequin [-\]: xD ketchup [2k\]: some chinese model Onmyoji [2d\]: b is andy Sheeple [3k\]: someone with a real count? rayah [5k\]: the person in the picture is prettiful, but I'll still take my wifey over her :o Lorizael [7k\]: shindo go? FLOsFATE [5k\]: n7 n1 Yaruki [10k\]: you should see her without makeup Lorizael [7k\]: What's shindo go? CBlue [1k\]: p9 ] ;B[lg]BL[30]OB[1]C[aStefan [-\]: b is pretty famous CBlue [1k\]: ... henhen [7k\]: lol ketchup [2k\]: h8 soon? aStefan [-\]: doh w Onmyoji [2d\]: or without photoshop danigabi [6d\]: ites the go of shindou hikaru RoundTuit [2k\]: "wifey"??? Faux [-\]: on topic please? GottaGo [2d?\]: Amazing amount of reduction DaoLin [1d\]: shido Go ] ;W[nh]WL[30]OW[1]C[henhen [7k\]: lol AyoLogie: what does SE says ? S1lv3rD1m3 [3d\]: me too, rayah ketchup [2k\]: oops j8* ] ;B[ih]BL[30]OB[1]C[henhen [7k\]: i dont see any make up except blush o.o shanku [3k\]: he means teaching go, lorizael DaoLin [1d\]: Hikaru-noGo Lorizael [7k\]: Ok sadfasd: g9 Lorizael [7k\]: Shidou go Harlequin [-\]: shin do: the new art? Elsien [9k\]: can we please stick to comments about the game >.< henhen [7k\]: no eyeliner either henhen [7k\]: xD kk reddyz [6k?\]: LOLL! jsc [9k\]: SE =w plus about 15 ayo ] ;W[gk]WL[30]OW[1]C[Breaker [2k?\]: time!! sadfasd: WOOT Mile [7k\]: it's just not gonna happen elsien.. Sheeple [3k\]: oh nice Breaker [2k?\]: sadfasd is 7p Breaker [2k?\]: :D CBlue [1k\]: n9.. danigabi [6d\]: but se is very wrong lol sadfasd: :D ] ;B[el]BL[30]OB[1]C[CBlue [1k\]: huh lag danigabi [6d\]: good time to count.. GottaGo [2d?\]: g9 nice move DaoLin [1d\]: caressing some beloved pupil over the head, not crushing him/her, just testing strength = shod Go Breaker [2k?\]: g9 Pro Onmyoji [2d\]: i count w+3.5 Breaker [2k?\]: :))) CBlue [1k\]: had a 20s spike, or was it kgs?^^ Sheeple [3k\]: was you DaoLin [1d\]: shido Go ketchup [2k\]: was you Rajan [11k\]: why is your fasd sad, sadfasd? S1lv3rD1m3 [3d\]: too many stones to count ] ;W[ng]WL[30]OW[1]C[jsc [9k\]: it takes me 15 minutes to count TheMagic [3k\]: B is ahead by less than 10 ] ;B[nf]BL[30]OB[1]C[Breaker [2k?\]: WOa TheCount [2d?\]: three! three white corners! ah hah hah Breaker [2k?\]: Hell Harlequin [-\]: does everyone get "unexpected disconnection" when they speak here? ketchup [2k\]: k8/j8 please Analysis [2d\]: no Onmyoji [2d\]: i got Mile [7k\]: I don't ] ;W[pi]WL[30]OW[1]C[akiba [8k?\]: nope Harlequin [-\]: then admins are rather picky >.> S1lv3rD1m3 [3d\]: seems accurate, thecount mgoetze [1d\]: don't troll, harlequin rayah [5k\]: p8? :o danigabi [6d\]: b well ahead dopingg [17k\]: sehen große böse wölfe immer so aus?, wenn sie verlieren ] ;B[of]BL[30]OB[1]C[xio [7k\]: w+3,5 Breaker [2k?\]: o9 ] ;W[nl]WL[30]OW[1]C[Harlequin [-\]: i never get disconnection twice randomly Breaker [2k?\]: ouch holynec [?\]: oo jennie2p is here GottaGo [2d?\]: big gain GoJohnGo [9k\]: w right side is huge lior6 [?\]: oh no ] ;B[gi]BL[30]OB[1]C[lior6 [?\]: boom jsc [9k\]: i never understood why you put a comma and not a perod. why? NoThird: This w the author of fundamental principles of go? CBlue [1k\]: p8 palmodei [7k\]: yesss palmodei [7k\]: i have the book NoThird: neat Harlequin [-\]: yea NoThird: same ] ;W[bg]WL[30]OW[1]C[sadfasd: noooooo rayah [5k\]: :O palmodei [7k\]: nice book whatisgo [1d\]: yea great book Breaker [2k?\]: wow a 9p is here too! AroundOneD [2d\]: g13 cut ] ;B[af]BL[30]OB[1]C[AroundOneD [2d\]: available now DaoLin [1d\]: bG11 is nice Mile [7k\]: what 9P? Breaker [2k?\]: sry shanku [3k\]: b gets cut too tho calm [5k\]: Perhaps Jennie could make some comments. Breaker [2k?\]: i mean 2p Mile [7k\]: LIES xio [7k\]: depends on the regional settings in KGS client :) Onmyoji [2d\]: ok w should have protected cut ketchup [2k\]: b not really cut ] ;W[hi]WL[30]OW[1]C[Breaker [2k?\]: wrong number ] ;B[gg]BL[30]OB[1]C[rayah [5k\]: Hi Jennie! :D danigabi [6d\]: w died ketchup [2k\]: g9 is not really protecting anything sadfasd: e11 whatisgo [1d\]: game over? Orc [4d\]: oh white... TheTuss [6k\]: where NoThird: resign? :-( ] ;W[gf]WL[30]OW[1]C[Breaker [2k?\]: time ] ;B[gh]BL[30]OB[1]C[rayah [5k\]: g14 g12 h14 right? sadfasd: ooo Harlequin [-\]: s18 timesuji sadfasd: h14 Faux [-\]: nothing Elscouta [2k\]: a16 ko seems to be relevant Breaker [2k?\]: b11? ] ;W[hf]WL[30]OW[1] ;B[ff]BL[30]OB[1]C[sadfasd: l15 must Yaruki [10k\]: looks like b dead sadfasd: no?!?! TheMagic [3k\]: all over? jayjolin [1k\]: ............................. Larrave [3k\]: l15 Yaruki [10k\]: nvm Vinicius [1d\]: b can connect danigabi [6d\]: L15? Breaker [2k?\]: E19 Yaruki [10k\]: l15 sexy save Mile [7k\]: black's not dead. Breaker [2k?\]: e10 Breaker [2k?\]: ! sadfasd: yeah nothing lol Q161 [13k?\]: l15! Denniskutl [2d\]: w looks slightly ahead Breaker [2k?\]: E10!! sadfasd: no wait atarihuana [1k\]: ko Elsien [9k\]: j15 group needs to extend ] ;W[bi]WL[30]OW[1]C[sadfasd: l15 !! Elsien [9k\]: for w to cap Harlequin [-\]: pro never lose on time! :D Elscouta [2k\]: ... ? GoJohnGo [9k\]: cutting it fine with the time ] ;B[ad]BL[30]OB[1]C[GottaGo [2d?\]: Practically blitz ketchup [2k\]: a13 GoJohnGo [9k\]: lol the ko that started it all ReemBD [3d\]: i still dont get how he got b3 alive :P ] ;W[ke]WL[30]OW[1]C[Faux [-\]: fear, Reem? :_ ketchup [2k\]: b3 was exchange Faux [-\]: *:) Ruzinus [5k?\]: 2 moves in a row AroundOneD [2d\]: a13 means over sadfasd: mmm ] ;B[bc]BL[30]OB[1]C[DaoLin [1d\]: oeps - maximalising by ko can be dangerous (1d comment) why not bL15? TheTuss [6k\]: woah what was that Breaker [2k?\]: whatt the ketchup [2k\]: otherwise it was capturing rac no? tildebis [?\]: L15 one move short ? ReemBD [3d\]: OO Mile [7k\]: why did the players get only 20 minutes and 1 byo yomi danigabi [6d\]: .. Breaker [2k?\]: WHAT THE f* ReemBD [3d\]: wtf tildebis [?\]: why not H15 first ? Elscouta [2k\]: e18 is dying now.. adhitthana [1d\]: b plays with fire Koemi [-\]: O_o jSd [8k\]: b+56.5 ketchup [2k\]: haha b killing top skeptical [2d\]: fish dies or net breaks ] ;W[dd]WL[30]OW[1]C[AroundOneD [2d\]: either a18 or d16 ReemBD [3d\]: b plays good Vinicius [1d\]: o.O Breaker [2k?\]: hahaha Mile [7k\]: is not dying. ] ;B[ab]BL[30]OB[1]C[shohho [3k\]: a18 danigabi [6d\]: misake for sure ] ;W[ce]WL[30]OW[1]C[danigabi [6d\]: b won too many libs Fujiwaka [-\]: res Yaruki [10k\]: kill all.... ketchup [2k\]: c18? sadfasd: ? papermate [4k\]: bad Vinicius [1d\]: C18? shohho [3k\]: c18 Nick8a [2k\]: c18 ] ;B[cb]BL[30]OB[1]C[Breaker [2k?\]: hahahahha W Heavy troublke Nick8a [2k\]: OMG Dreamland [3k?\]: huh .. GottaGo [2d?\]: Looks like fire for both Q161 [13k?\]: GO BBW danigabi [6d\]: ko ] ;W[ba]WL[30]OW[1]C[ketchup [2k\]: white should weep Nick8a [2k\]: what was w think Breaker [2k?\]: muhahah Mile [7k\]: nvm, it's dying adhitthana [1d\]: w mistake palmodei [7k\]: resign W ketchup [2k\]: d18 Faux [-\]: b nice ] ;B[ca]BL[30]OB[1]C[Oogway [2k\]: can some one explain this to me? ] ;W[bd]WL[30]OW[1]C[Nick8a [2k\]: game set metch adhitthana [1d\]: over rayah [5k\]: O.o calm [5k\]: Back to the ko. Nick8a [2k\]: match* ] ;B[aa]BL[30]OB[1]C[shohho [3k\]: a19 ketchup [2k\]: yes over.. Q161 [13k?\]: dead Suai [7k\]: ouch Breaker [2k?\]: ??????? ] ;W[ag]WL[30]OW[1]C[sadfasd: mmmmm Rajan [11k\]: resign? ] ;B[cd]BL[30]OB[1]C[Rajan [11k\]: ah tildebis [?\]: W should have H15 first ... Rythmic [7k\]: why are you constantly laughing at the players breaker? Nick8a [2k\]: O kensei [2k\]: even pros miss read sadfasd: m15 Nick8a [2k\]: maybe not NoThird: white now live ... Orc [4d\]: this is huge ko now Rajan [11k\]: didn't see that b14 was in danger Nick8a [2k\]: its a ko Breaker [2k?\]: B MUSt DaoLin [1d\]: internal therats (W) Breaker [2k?\]: die danigabi [6d\]: N17 eemhdbmy: is yilunyang real name of w? Breaker [2k?\]: B will die rayah [5k\]: What if it's seki? :o Breaker [2k?\]: ^^ whatisgo [1d\]: no ko threats TheMagic [3k\]: ouch Vinicius [1d\]: ignore anything ReemBD [3d\]: uh oh Faux [-\]: w so dead. choboco [1k\]: he didnt misread he had to kill or be killed to win i think Rajan [11k\]: Yes, eemhdbmy Dreamland [3k?\]: no seki here fwiffo [5k\]: large ko is large TheMagic [3k\]: if it's seki W loses ] ;W[mf]WL[30]OW[1]C[ketchup [2k\]: time TheMagic [3k\]: anyways Yaruki [10k\]: dang this tough ko danigabi [6d\]: 2 step ko though Nick8a [2k\]: close 1 ] ;B[bd]BL[30]OB[1]C[ReemBD [3d\]: poor w mistaked :( TheCount [2d?\]: ignore Nick8a [2k\]: o Breaker [2k?\]: Wwwwwwwwww.TF Q161 [13k?\]: ignore! palmodei [7k\]: nice shohho [3k\]: ouch Faux [-\]: Breaker... >_> reddyz [6k?\]: woow adhitthana [1d\]: ooooovverrr Koemi [-\]: holy Breaker [2k?\]: sory Nick8a [2k\]: sacrifice Breaker [2k?\]: im exited Breaker [2k?\]: !! ketchup [2k\]: now left dead too? TheCount [2d?\]: good trade for b sadfasd: not too bad? Faux [-\]: b brave kyusanjyu: white is just fooling around. Breaker [2k?\]: :D sadfasd: lost like 10 pts? NoThird: left "can" live ] ;W[md]WL[30]OW[1]C[rayah [5k\]: So many comments :O reddyz [6k?\]: good trade.. puntificB [6k\]: massive ReemBD [3d\]: O.O choboco [1k\]: not too bad? more like really bad ;) eemhdbmy: where did yiyunyang get pro recognition, in usa? ] ;B[me]BL[30]OB[1]C[Breaker [2k?\]: massive kill ReemBD [3d\]: w is strange Nick8a [2k\]: yes its a river of comments jsc [9k\]: this screen is moving so fassttt. whatisgo [1d\]: I m so dissapointed with w :( yithril [2d\]: in China Vinicius [1d\]: left not alive yet norg [4k\]: This is so fail is is almost unvelievable Nick8a [2k\]: hahahahaha Souler [3k?\]: resign yithril [2d\]: you can't become pro in the U.S. :) danigabi [6d\]: w played very good game CBlue [1k\]: n15? shohho [3k\]: usa don't give no pro recognition ReemBD [3d\]: i wanted w to win :( ketchup [2k\]: there is no pro system in u.s. Nick8a [2k\]: OOOO Elscouta [2k\]: n17 ReemBD [3d\]: he should win YilunYang [7p\]: ok , thanks for the game Nick8a [2k\]: another w miss Rajan [11k\]: gg TheTuss [6k\]: ! Q161 [13k?\]: BBW THE INVINCIBLE bigbadwolf [9d\]: thanks for the game NeoFlufBun [13k\]: lol RoundTuit [2k\]: awwwww Nick8a [2k\]: GG shohho [3k\]: haha time danigabi [6d\]: after bottom situation he had a lost position Onmyoji [2d\]: loolllollo BrickWall [1d\]: great game Yaruki [10k\]: gg fwiffo [5k\]: Wow Breaker [2k?\]: haha he loses by time for not lose for res Faux [-\]: Thanks to both! :) Harlequin [-\]: :S danigabi [6d\]: Congratulations BBW Philipy95 [7k\]: negro gana AroundOneD [2d\]: nice game jsc [9k\]: BBW YOUR MY IDOL LOL Ploki [4d\]: awouuuuuuuu adhitthana [1d\]: nice game reddyz [6k?\]: great game NoThird: nice game TheMagic [3k\]: congrats BBW YilunYang [7p\]: review? ReemBD [3d\]: bbw and yilun MssrBlanc [3k\]: good game--thanks for playing for us reddyz [6k?\]: congrats b sadfasd: awesome game bigbadwolf [9d\]: sure sadfasd: yes!! ReemBD [3d\]: u both awsome players danigabi [6d\]: people silence Breaker [2k?\]: congrats ur 9p danigabi [6d\]: they review Uberdude [4d?\]: bbw for president! sadfasd: review! tildebis [?\]: H15 one move before :'( !!! DanielFox [1k\]: thank you for the game, both Koemi [-\]: thanks, both of you :) sadfasd: ok ok Nick8a [2k\]: wow sadfasd: shhhhhh Lorizael [7k\]: Silence please... Nick8a [2k\]: GG pdndar [3k\]: la bi susun da Breaker [2k?\]: shut up Rajan [11k\]: please quiet down for a review. KingDom12 [4k\]: stop spam plz Onmyoji [2d\]: :o paperwasp [1d\]: k4 was the winning move DangoMango [5k\]: spam ftw! Nick8a [2k\]: ur part of it to ReemBD [3d\]: review :D eemhdbmy: hi, yilungyang, what's your chinese name? Unyil [7k\]: yes review pls.. ])