(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[7.50]
PW[A. N. Other4]PB[thirdfogie]RE[Void]
;B[pd]
;W[cp]
;B[pq]
;W[dd]
;B[ql]
;W[eq]
;B[cf]
;W[gc]
;B[bd]LB[cj:A][dj:B]C[I personally dislike giving w so many solid points right at the beginning. Maybe consider a or b instead? These leave the corner open and make you more flexible.]
;W[cc]
;B[ci]
;W[jq]
;B[cl]LB[nc:E][dl:C][dm:D][cn:A][co:B][lq:F]TR[bd][cf][ci]C[I can understand that you want to prevent a white double-wing. but your marked group is already very strong, so your move is a little slow. you could be more amibtious with a,b for example. Or maybe you could play high at c,d to get some balance on the left. note that a,c,d all have the excellent move at e5 as follow-up, although it's not clear if you can build in the middle, at least you can prevent white from expanding easily. for the rest of the board, e and f look interesting.]
;W[po]
(;B[qp]LB[oq:A]C[with any chinese formation, o4 is the first move to think of. as someone pointed out, w now has a choice to treat his stone lightly with a move like a. when w already has a low stone on the bottom i'd disregard o4 in favor of o3, because expanding is probably not going to happen for b. see variation.]
;W[qo]
;B[np]LB[nq:A]C[although this attacks more, it still leaves a weakness. i'd still prefer a]
;W[pm]
;B[pl]
;W[nn]
;B[lp]LB[kp:A][lq:B]C[I think this jump is ok, could think about pressuring w more with l4. or closing the door at m3.]
;W[ol]
;B[pj]C[Similar to the previous game I posted.

should definitely hane, this is too soft, p9 is a really nice point to have and w can't cut, so there's no drawback.]
;W[oq]C[I thought this was a mistake.]
;B[op]
;W[pp]
;B[qq]
;W[mq]
;B[nq]LB[mp:A]C[here you leave w the option of a. i'm not sure how this turns out, but i'd connect in this situation]
;W[lq]
;B[mp]C[connecting is definitely better than m5 as someone suggested. you don't wanna get a weak group for no reason, w is still attackable.]
;W[ok]C[now w gets the nice point]
;B[oj]
;W[mk]
;B[jc]C[i'd still o10 here, important shape point, also for w. consider variation for w's next move]
(;W[nc]
;B[oc]
;W[nd]
;B[pf]
;W[ld]
;B[je]
;W[mg]
;B[mi]C[I thought Black is doing well here.

b has two targets to attack, which is nice]
;W[kg]
;B[ig]
;W[jh]
;B[kj]
;W[nj]
;B[ni]
;W[qm]
;B[pk]LB[qi:a]C[I considered playing this at a, but then decided it was better to take a liberty from the white stones.]
;W[ih]
;B[hg]
;W[jj]
;B[kk]
;W[hh]
;B[gg]
;W[gh]
;B[fg]
;W[qc]LB[ob:A][qd:D][ip:C][hq:B]C[nice timing for w. if you play a you should aim to attack w severely because that's about the only thing this move can help you with. on this board it looks hard, but not impossible. after b invasion, maybe you can get a threeway (attack ;)). or maybe c to build strength to attack severely. if you don't see a good attack after a, consider d to keep your side territory.]
;B[ob]
;W[qe]
;B[qd]LB[pe:a]TR[nc][ld][nd][kg][mg][gh][hh][ih][jh][jj]C[A blunder.  This should obviously be at a to keep an attack on the marked white stones.]
;W[pe]
;B[oe]
;W[od]
;B[pc]
;W[of]
;B[ne]
;W[me]
;B[nf]
;W[og]
;B[re]
;W[qf]
;B[qg]
;W[pg]
;B[rf]
;W[pf]
;B[ph]C[White was cautious here and let Black have a good squeeze.  The outcome was still a disaster for Black.]
;W[mf]
;B[oh]
;W[ng]C[i'm not sure what i think of this. you got reduced and w is absolutely safe now. on the other hand, keeping the big corner is really nice.]
;B[rn]C[A similar move was rightly criticized in the last game I posted.  This game was played before I saw those comments.

yes this is not doing much, lower side is important now.]
;W[ro]
;B[rm]
;W[mm]
;B[bc]LB[ec:A]C[like it, very big, threatens a]
;W[fd]
;B[cb]LB[eb:a]C[Would a play at a have killed the White group?

no way: w will probably answer e17 - nice shape for living. if anything, that would be the shape point. but looks hard to kill.

if you invade the bottom now, the game would be easy, i think]
;W[db]
;B[bb]
;W[hp]C[White 92 was brave.

it's the biggest move if w is alive on top, but i agree. can't totally read it though.]
;B[hb]
;W[gb]
;B[ec]
;W[eb]
;B[cd]
;W[dc]
;B[fh]
;W[id]
;B[jd]
;W[cn]TR[gi][hi][ii][gj][hj][ij]C[I (Black) estimated the score around this point and thought I was a few points ahead with normal end-game plays.  I failed to allow for the marked points that White actually got as centre territory.

actually w shouldn't get too many points there. i also see b quite ahead]
;B[em]
;W[bm]LB[gj:C][eo:A][fo:B]C[Ouch.  Black should have played here first.

actually, i like b's move. has nice follow-ups at a/b (maybe even in sente) and c to make a nice area]
(;B[bl]C[lets w get a good point]
;W[fi]
;B[ee]
;W[ed]
;B[ei]
;W[fj]
;B[ej]
;W[fk]
;B[el]
;W[de]
;B[gm]
;W[ce]
;B[be]
;W[df]
;B[cg]
;W[eo]C[nice for w, end of comments]
;B[dg]
;W[rq]
;B[rp]
;W[sp]
;B[rr]
;W[sq]
;B[sr]
;W[so]
;B[or]
;W[al]
;B[ak]
;W[am]
;B[ck]
;W[ib]
;B[cm]
;W[bo]
;B[jp]
;W[iq]
;B[ic]
;W[hc]
;B[jb]
;W[ha]
;B[go]
;W[gp]
;B[fo]
;W[hk]
;B[fp]
;W[fq]
;B[ep]
;W[dp]
;B[dn]
;W[ie]
;B[jf]
;W[nb]
;B[qb]
;W[jo]
;B[ko]
;W[do]
;B[jn]
;W[jk]
;B[lb]
;W[en]
;B[gl]
;W[io]
;B[kr]
;W[kq]
;B[mr]
;W[lr]C[The last 2 or 3 moves may have been incorrectly recorded.The record ends here.  White won by 1.5 points.])
(;B[eo]
;W[fp]
;B[gj]))
(;W[nj]
;B[ni]
;W[mi]
;B[nh]
;W[mh]
;B[ng]
;W[qc]C[w gets superstrong and takes the corner]))
(;B[nq]
;W[qq]
;B[qr]
;W[qp]
;B[rr]LB[ol:E][pl:D][pm:B][qn:A][no:C]C[w has no good move now, a looks cramped, b strengthens b and jump at c will just give b more points. anything like d,e will be risky.]))