(;FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[GoGui:1.4.7]
KM[6.5]TM[1500]PB[Alejo]PW[scaf3594]BR[5k]WR[5k]DT[2013-11-16]RE[B+27.50]
RU[Japanese]
PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]ST[2];B[pd]BL[1496.1];W[dd]
WL[1496.2];B[pp]BL[1492.4];W[dq]WL[1493.2];B[do]BL[1486.2];W[gq]WL[1481.6]
(;B[dl]BL[1472.3];W[bp]WL[1477.7]
(;B[bn]
C[Too slow, and it's gote, even if it stabilizes the group you can still run with them if you have enough influence, as they are in the 4th line]
BL[1465.8];W[qn]WL[1464.4]
(;B[nq]
C[The thing is, this stone is getting near an uninsteresting position with G3, you can't develop a framework so it's a move that doesn't gains so much points, but the high pincers works well with the star point to develop frameworks or more influence for middle game. You can always try things like this later (see H3)]
BL[1453.7]
(;W[rp]WL[1461.9]
(;B[qq]BL[1450.3];W[qk]
C[I don't like this, the R9 stone hurts too much the Q16 star stone, since now it can't develop moyo as before]
WL[1459.4];B[kq]
C[Small, see the H3 attachment, this doesn't really makes the WD3 group get in danger and it doesn't make the development bigger for black]
BL[1447.2];W[nc]WL[1452.7]
(;B[lc]
C[I don't really know if this is bad, but since you can't really get a good wall with this because of the strong group of R9 and the star stone on D16 it's difficult to see if it's good either]
BL[1441.5];W[qc]WL[1446.1];B[pc]BL[1432.3];W[pb]WL[1443.9];B[qd]BL[1423.4];
W[rb]WL[1387.4];B[rc]BL[1419.5];W[qb]WL[1385.2];B[qh]BL[1413.9];W[re]
WL[1330.2]
;B[qf]BL[1405.9];W[rd]WL[1327.8]
(;B[rf]
C[I don't see the purpose of this move, it's too small scale, you can sacrifice Q17 stones because you aren't cutting anything with them, neither making eyes, neither making thickness]
BL[1400.6];W[ne]C[This separates both your gorups, you should stay connected]
WL[1319.6];B[nb]BL[1394.1];W[oc]WL[1309.5];B[mb]BL[1385.4];W[ob]WL[1307.4]
(;B[of]C[Doesn't give you shape neither makes you go into the center]
BL[1381.4];W[jc]WL[1302.4];B[le]BL[1371.5];W[kd]WL[1297.6];B[ld]BL[1361.5];
W[gc]WL[1295.3]
(;B[cc]
C[This is fine, but you should consider D17 to counter attack G17 group]
BL[1354.1];W[dc]WL[1286.6];B[cd]BL[1351.3];W[ce]WL[1284.4];B[be]BL[1345.4];
W[cf]WL[1282.7];B[db]BL[1342.6];W[eb]WL[1280.8];B[cb]BL[1340.1];W[ec]
WL[1275.4]
;B[ic]BL[1327.9];W[ib]WL[1272.6];B[je]BL[1317.1];W[id]WL[1265.4];B[jd]
BL[1312.8];W[kc]WL[1255.4];B[ke]BL[1303.8];W[ie]WL[1249.0];B[if]BL[1296.4];
W[ge]WL[1243.7]
;B[ch]BL[1282.4];W[bf]WL[1241.3];B[ad]BL[1279.2];W[af]WL[1238.4];B[ac]
BL[1272.0];W[cj]WL[1231.7];B[dj]BL[1267.9];W[ci]WL[1213.0];B[di]BL[1263.9];
W[bh]WL[1211.0]
;B[ck]BL[1261.5];W[dh]WL[1192.9];B[eh]BL[1257.3];W[dg]WL[1190.6];B[eg]
BL[1252.2];W[ef]WL[1187.4];B[bj]BL[1243.9];W[bi]WL[1183.9];B[nd]BL[1205.0];
W[od]WL[1176.2]
;B[oe]BL[1201.8];W[md]WL[1172.7];B[nf]C[Very good, I think]BL[1198.8];W[ok]
WL[1165.6]
(;B[ni]C[it seems small]BL[1191.9]
(;W[hf]C[He is making you stronger.]WL[1161.6];B[ig]BL[1188.8];W[ko]WL[1151.1]
;B[on]BL[1182.9];W[jj]C[tengen? :P]WL[1143.9];B[ki]BL[1179.1];W[kl]WL[1139.4];
B[ho]BL[1166.8]
(;W[gk]C[Greedy, should connect at N9]WL[1121.9];B[ip]BL[1161.0];W[ei]
WL[1119.2];B[ej]BL[1154.6];W[fi]WL[1117.0];B[fj]BL[1151.3];W[fg]WL[1114.4];
B[gi]BL[1148.3];W[fh]C[very greedy white]WL[1111.7];B[mk]BL[1145.4]
;W[gj]WL[1108.1];B[hh]BL[1139.9];W[hm]WL[1102.8];B[in]BL[1135.6];W[im]
WL[1100.9];B[hj]BL[1096.0];W[hk]WL[1097.0];B[ij]BL[1091.0];W[ik]WL[1095.3];
B[kj]BL[1087.9]
;W[jn]WL[1088.3];B[lm]BL[1081.1];W[ji]WL[1078.1];B[jh]BL[1055.3];W[kk]
WL[1067.1];B[jk]BL[1048.2];W[jl]WL[1064.5];B[km]BL[1044.1];W[jm]WL[1054.4];
B[fm]BL[1041.4]
;W[go]WL[1050.3];B[gn]BL[1037.8];W[hn]WL[1048.1];B[io]BL[1033.8];W[jp]
WL[1044.1];B[jq]BL[1028.5];W[jo]WL[1035.4];B[iq]BL[1011.0];W[em]WL[1019.2];
B[fl]BL[1005.2]
;W[el]WL[1010.8];B[fk]BL[999.1];W[fn]WL[1008.1];B[gm]BL[996.7];W[dk]WL[999.0];
B[ek]BL[993.7];W[gl]WL[997.2];B[dk]BL[991.1];W[eo]WL[985.1];B[ml]BL[977.6]
;W[bl]WL[976.2];B[gp]BL[963.7];W[fo]WL[970.3];B[dm]BL[961.1];W[en]WL[966.6];
B[ep]BL[957.0];W[fp]WL[963.9];B[fq]
C[Black did his tsumego daily and won the game :)]BL[953.4];W[pi]WL[940.0];
B[ph]BL[950.4]
;W[rq]WL[930.2];B[rr]BL[944.8];W[nm]WL[925.2];B[mo]BL[932.2];W[mn]WL[919.0];
B[ln]BL[928.2];W[lo]WL[915.6];B[mp]BL[924.2];W[mj]WL[904.7];B[nj]BL[913.8]
;W[kh]WL[879.4];B[ii]BL[885.9];W[jk]WL[831.8];B[li]BL[864.5];W[gh]WL[825.5];
B[fr]BL[814.9];W[hi]WL[821.2];B[ih]BL[798.2];W[cn]WL[778.7];B[dn]BL[794.6]
;W[co]WL[722.5];B[bm]BL[787.7];W[cm]WL[715.4];B[bk]BL[782.5];W[cl]WL[704.3];
B[al]BL[779.4];W[bo]WL[696.7];B[ak]BL[769.8]
(;W[dr]WL[671.4];B[br]BL[766.1];W[ao]WL[667.6];B[am]BL[763.3];W[bq]WL[662.5];
B[aq]BL[759.8];W[cr]WL[656.9];B[gi]BL[737.6];W[kg]WL[642.7];B[jf]BL[727.0]
;W[hi]WL[640.3];B[dp]BL[723.3];W[cp]WL[636.6];B[gi]BL[720.3];W[mi]WL[631.0];
B[mh]BL[713.7];W[hi]WL[628.3];B[bs]BL[696.3];W[gi]WL[584.3];B[ar]BL[688.5]
;W[cs]WL[571.3];B[an]BL[685.2];W[cq]WL[563.2];B[er]BL[682.2];W[ap]WL[556.8];
B[eq]BL[649.2];W[as]WL[554.2];B[ar]BL[645.1];W[br]WL[479.5];B[bs]BL[639.4]
;W[lh]WL[476.7];B[as]BL[635.4];W[lj]WL[474.8];B[mg]BL[630.5];W[nk]WL[468.2];
B[pm]BL[622.1];W[om]WL[465.3];B[pn]BL[618.7];W[qm]WL[461.5];B[pl]BL[616.1]
;W[pk]WL[446.4];B[ql]BL[611.9];W[rl]WL[444.5];B[qo]BL[580.1];W[ro]WL[430.7];
B[rm]BL[577.5];W[rn]WL[428.9];B[rk]BL[575.3];W[sm]WL[427.2];B[rj]BL[573.0]
;W[qp]WL[415.4];B[pq]BL[563.9];W[mm]WL[409.0];B[qj]BL[539.3];W[lf]WL[338.2];
B[me]BL[532.6];W[mf]WL[335.3];B[nd]BL[529.6];W[aq]WL[333.6];B[as]BL[512.0]
;W[ne]WL[328.5];B[sl]BL[507.8];W[sk]WL[325.4];B[nd]BL[503.9];W[po]WL[307.6];
B[oo]BL[486.2];W[ne]WL[304.6];B[lg]BL[483.4];W[kf]WL[299.8];B[nd]BL[481.2]
;W[bc]WL[148.8];B[mc]BL[458.8];W[bb]WL[146.1];B[ba]BL[452.8];W[ab]WL[139.1];
B[da]BL[448.8];W[ae]WL[102.2];B[bd]BL[444.8];W[ea]WL[94.8];B[aa]BL[440.7]
;W[nh]WL[72.0];B[oh]BL[401.9];W[ng]WL[69.5];B[pj]BL[398.3];W[nl]WL[47.1];B[oj]
BL[378.8];W[ll]WL[36.7];B[kb]BL[361.6];W[jb]WL[19.9];B[se]BL[357.7]
;W[sd]WL[13.1];B[sf]BL[352.4];W[sr]WL[8.6];B[rs]BL[345.2];W[lp]WL[5.7];B[lq]
BL[342.2];W[ka]WL[30.0]OW[5];B[lb]BL[338.7];W[sj]WL[30.0]OW[5];B[si]BL[332.9]
;W[sl]WL[30.0]OW[5];B[sq]BL[318.1];W[sp]WL[30.0]OW[5];B[la]BL[310.0];W[ja]
WL[30.0]OW[5];B[oa]BL[302.4];W[pa]WL[30.0]OW[5];B[na]BL[299.3];W[sc]WL[30.0]
OW[5];B[hg]BL[266.8]
;W[gg]WL[30.0]OW[5];B[nn]BL[261.3];W[lk]WL[30.0]OW[5];B[qe]BL[257.5];W[ai]
WL[30.0]OW[5];B[og]BL[252.9];W[qr]WL[30.0]OW[5];B[pr]BL[250.3];W[sq]WL[30.0]
OW[5];B[qs]BL[239.3]
;W[]WL[30.0]OW[5];B[]BL[239.3]
TB[ca][ma][ab][bb][bc][md][ne][pg][pf][pe][qg][rg][sg][ri][rh][sh][oi][pi][qi][bl][cl][eo][en][em][el][cs][cr][cq][cp][co][cn][cm][fp][fo][fn][ar][aq][ap][ao][br][bq][bp][bo][go][np][no][hs][hr][hq][hp][os][or][oq][op][ds][dr][dq][gs][gr][gq][ms][mr][mq][is][ir][js][jr][ks][kr][ls][lr][ns][nr][qr][bs][es][fs][ps]
TW[ff][fe][fd][fc][fb][fa][ga][ha][ia][qa][ra][sa][gb][hb][sb][he][hd][hc][ic][rc][ee][ed][gd][df][de][gf][ag][bg][cg][eh][eg][lg][mg][ah][ch][mh][kj][ki][li][ml][mk][hl][il][kn][km][ln][lm][rm][so][sn]
)
(;W[br]C[I can't read :D]WL[696.0]))
(;W[mk]WL[1139.0];B[lk]BL[1157.0];W[ll]WL[1138.0];B[ml]BL[1156.0];W[lj]
WL[1138.0];B[kk]BL[1156.0];W[kj]WL[1137.0];B[jk]BL[1153.0];W[ik]WL[1136.0];
B[jl]BL[1152.0]
;W[il]WL[1135.0];B[jm]BL[1152.0]
(;W[nj]C[can't cut effectively]WL[1135.0])
(;W[nl]WL[1135.0];B[mm]BL[1150.0];W[nj]C[can't cut effectively]WL[1134.0])))
(;W[gn]C[Better]WL[1165.0])
(;W[lk]C[better]WL[1165.0]))
(;B[lk]C[maybe that is better?]BL[1198.0]))
(;B[dc]BL[1361.0];W[cc]WL[1292.0]
(;B[ed]BL[1357.0];W[de]WL[1291.0];B[gd]BL[1353.0];W[ec]WL[1290.0];B[fc]
BL[1352.0];W[db]WL[1289.0];B[eb]BL[1352.0];W[dc]WL[1289.0];B[gb]BL[1337.0];
W[hc]WL[1287.0]
;B[ge]
C[useful to keep fighting (?) (i really odn't know if it's better, it's just it seems better =P)]
BL[1335.0])
(;B[cd]BL[1361.0];W[ed]WL[1284.0];B[bc]BL[1360.0];W[cb]WL[1283.0];B[ce]
C[you don't give such great wall, as you don't get enclosed]BL[1359.0])))
(;B[ic]C[better]BL[1385.0];W[oh]WL[1298.0];B[qj]C[Sabaki]BL[1385.0]
(;W[rj]WL[1295.0];B[rk]BL[1385.0]
(;W[qi]WL[1295.0];B[pj]BL[1383.0];W[rh]WL[1294.0];B[pi]BL[1382.0];W[ri]
WL[1293.0];B[ph]BL[1381.0];W[rl]WL[1290.0];B[pk]BL[1380.0];W[ql]WL[1290.0];
B[mj]C[Better]BL[1378.0])
(;W[rl]WL[1295.0];B[pk]BL[1383.0];W[ql]WL[1294.0];B[ri]BL[1383.0];W[sk]
WL[1294.0];B[pj]C[better]BL[1374.0]))
(;W[pj]WL[1298.0];B[rk]BL[1383.0];W[qi]WL[1297.0];B[rj]BL[1383.0];W[pi]
WL[1295.0];B[ri]BL[1382.0];W[pk]WL[1286.0];B[ql]C[better]BL[1381.0])))
(;B[nf]C[Maybe this?]BL[1405.0]
(;W[oe]WL[1323.0];B[of]BL[1405.0];W[pe]WL[1323.0];B[pf]BL[1404.0];W[qe]
WL[1321.0];B[le]BL[1402.0])
(;W[md]WL[1327.0];B[kf]BL[1402.0])))
(;B[qf]BL[1447.0];W[jd]WL[1448.0];B[cf]BL[1442.0];W[fd]
C[You will have to invade to keep on the game]WL[1447.0]))
(;B[qm]C[Maybe this? or]BL[1453.0])
(;B[ql]C[maybe this?]BL[1453.0]))
(;W[qk]WL[1464.0];B[hq]
C[You can always do this attachment if you are strong in the area]BL[1452.0]
(;W[hp]WL[1463.0];B[iq]BL[1453.0];W[gp]WL[1463.0];B[kq]BL[1452.0])
(;W[gp]WL[1464.0];B[gr]BL[1453.0];W[fr]WL[1463.0];B[kq]BL[1453.0])
(;W[hr]WL[1464.0];B[gr]BL[1451.0];W[fr]WL[1463.0];B[gp]BL[1449.0];W[fq]
WL[1463.0];B[ir]BL[1448.0];W[gs]WL[1462.0])))
(;B[pj]C[maybe this, to use the star stone]BL[1465.0])
(;B[pl]C[or this]BL[1465.0]))
(;B[fc]BL[1472.0];W[cf]WL[1476.0];B[jd]BL[1471.0];W[dj]WL[1476.0];B[pj]
C[D8 group isn't dead and you got a better developing?]BL[1470.0]
(;W[bk]WL[1423.0];B[cp]BL[1469.0];W[cq]WL[1423.0];B[bo]BL[1468.0];W[bq]
WL[1423.0];B[gl]BL[1467.0])
(;W[co]WL[1476.0];B[cj]BL[1465.0];W[ci]WL[1475.0];B[ej]BL[1465.0];W[di]
WL[1471.0];B[ek]BL[1463.0];W[dn]WL[1464.0];B[hj]BL[1460.0])))
(;B[cj]C[Better?]BL[1486.0];W[bp]WL[1471.0];B[cf]BL[1484.0])
(;B[cq]BL[1486.0];W[cr]WL[1480.0];B[cl]BL[1486.0];W[cp]WL[1479.0];B[ci]
C[Joseki]BL[1484.0]))
