(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[-5.50]TM[60] GN[ntn-Tapani(B) IGS]PW[ntn]PB[Tapani]WR[8k]BR[9k]DT[2017-08-13]EV[ntn vs Tapani]C[ ntn 8k+: Hi! ]LT[]NB[20]NW[21]RR[Normal] ;B[pd]BL[56] ;W[dp]WL[60] ;B[qp]BL[55] ;W[dd]WL[58] ;B[oq]BL[54] ;W[oo]WL[39]C[Never seen this played this early. How to respond?] ;B[pn]BL[42] ;W[nq]WL[30] ;B[op]BL[25]C[Maybe I could tenuki, but afraid of all kinds of tactical shenanigans. Want to secure the corner first.] ;W[np]WL[28] ;B[no]BL[18]C[Is this playable, thought separating his stones might be to my advantage.] ;W[mo]WL[28] ;B[nn]BL[16] ;W[mn]WL[28] (;B[on]BL[9]C[Bad move, played too fast and probably based on emotion. O7 probably better?] ;W[lp]WL[27]C[Game estimator says white is winning with some 15 points already.] ;B[pi]BL[2]C[Extend from my wall. Is distance right? Maybe one step closer would have been better.] ;W[dj]WL[22]TR[mc][nc][jd][pf][qg][mi][ni]C[Considered many moves here, but thought the move played (kinda) enclosed the corner and claimed the right side.] ;B[qf]BL[541] ;W[qi]WL[10]TR[ld][qh][pj][qk]C[THIS. So often they toss a stone just below a 4th line stone, and start killing of my stones. How to respond?? Extending on the 4th line would let him live on the inside, and give me no territory.] ;B[qj]BL[461]C[He is alone against many stones, I should fight?] ;W[pj]WL[6] (;B[pk]BL[336] ;W[oj]WL[2] ;B[qk]BL[335] ;W[ph]CR[qj][pk][qk]WL[595]SQ[ph][qi][oj][pj]C[In comparison, the squared stones are now outside and your circles stones strengthen the side that was strong anyway.] ;B[jd]BL[321]C[Big move and a ladder breaker] ;W[oi]WL[592] ;B[mc]BL[301]C[Secure my territory. Wanted to play N16 but afraid of him playing N17 in response, taking it all away.] ;W[of]WL[588]C[I do not understand? He wants to play P16? Maybe I should play P16 ... but don't want to react to all of his moves.] ;B[cq]BL[278]C[His corners are open, take them away while I can.] ;W[dq]WL[585] ;B[cp]BL[277] ;W[co]WL[584] ;B[bo]BL[277] ;W[cn]WL[581] ;B[bn]BL[277] ;W[cm]WL[580] ;B[dr]BL[277] ;W[er]WL[580] ;B[cr]BL[276] ;W[fq]WL[580] ;B[cc]BL[270] ;W[cd]WL[563] ;B[dc]BL[269] ;W[ec]WL[562] ;B[eb]BL[269] ;W[fb]WL[555]C[How to play against this? As black here I ended up with a weak rumble of stones, and he gets a big corner and kills many of my stones?] ;B[fc]BL[262] ;W[ed]WL[554] ;B[gb]BL[257] ;W[db]WL[554] ;B[fa]BL[256] ;W[cb]WL[554] ;B[bc]BL[256] ;W[bb]WL[550] ;B[ge]BL[250]C[Have to defend my stones - otherwise wH16 is a serious threat?] ;W[od]WL[546] ;B[oc]BL[249] ;W[pc]WL[544]C[Another fight :-(] ;B[qc]BL[212] ;W[nc]WL[525] ;B[ob]BL[193] ;W[pe]WL[522] ;B[qd]BL[185] ;W[nd]WL[512] ;B[qe]BL[167] ;W[nb]WL[510] ;B[pb]BL[593] ;W[kc]WL[505]C[And I am pretty much lost here... game estimator says white is ahead with some 45 points.] ;B[jc]BL[563] ;W[jj]WL[501] ;B[iq]BL[512]C[If he can invade, so can I?] ;W[io]WL[495] ;B[lr]BL[509] ;W[mr]WL[590] ;B[gr]BL[507] ;W[kr]WL[584]C[No. I cannot. Dead, I am.] ;B[gj]BL[374]C[Can we try to reduce?] ;W[eh]WL[566] ;B[fg]BL[360] ;W[fh]WL[563] ;B[gh]BL[359] ;W[eg]WL[562] ;B[ff]BL[354] ;W[bm]WL[561] ;B[bp]BL[347] ;W[fk]WL[554] ;B[hk]BL[344] ;W[gm]WL[535] ;B[hm]BL[342] ;W[hn]WL[533] ;B[im]BL[332] ;W[gl]WL[530] ;B[ij]BL[318] ;W[jk]WL[526] ;B[ik]BL[289] ;W[ji]WL[524]C[... and white lead starts to be close to 60 points. No need to look further?] ;B[ig]BL[280] ;W[kg]WL[521] ;B[kd]BL[279] ;W[lc]WL[516] ;B[ld]BL[263] ;W[md]WL[513] ;B[ee]BL[239] ;W[de]WL[507] ;B[lf]BL[202] ;W[lg]WL[496] ;B[mf]BL[192] ;W[mg]WL[483] ;B[nl]BL[190] ;W[mk]WL[478] ;B[ml]BL[188] ;W[lk]WL[476] ;B[lm]BL[185] ;W[kn]WL[474] ;B[jn]BL[180] ;W[jo]WL[472] ;B[ch]BL[424] ;W[dg]WL[462] ;B[cg]BL[396] ;W[cf]WL[450] ;B[bl]BL[381] ;W[am]WL[446] ;B[bj]BL[379] ;W[ci]WL[574] ;B[bi]BL[375] ;W[bg]WL[566] ;B[bh]BL[363] ;W[bf]WL[562] ;B[ej]BL[362] ;W[ek]WL[549] ;B[dk]BL[212] ;W[di]WL[522] ;B[fj]BL[201] ;W[ck]WL[490] ;B[jf]BL[162] ;W[nf]WL[486] ;B[kb]BL[159] ;W[lb]WL[482] ;B[jh]BL[153] ;W[kh]WL[480] ;B[nk]BL[152] ;W[nj]WL[478] ;B[ln]BL[145] ;W[lo]WL[477] ;B[km]BL[142] ;W[or]WL[464] ;B[pr]BL[140] ;W[ps]WL[446] ;B[qr]BL[122] ;W[ef]WL[429] ;B[rh]BL[100] ;W[ri]WL[426] ;B[rj]BL[98] ;W[qh]WL[423] ;B[rg]BL[97] ;W[si]WL[420] ;B[pf]BL[90] ;W[oe]WL[417] ;B[pg]BL[77] ;W[og]WL[415] ;B[ko]BL[63] ;W[kp]WL[412] ;B[ii]BL[17] ;W[kf]WL[405] ;B[ke]BL[13] ;W[me]WL[405] ;B[le]BL[600] ;W[fd]WL[402] ;B[gd]BL[599] ;W[fe]WL[401] ;B[jb]BL[590] ;W[gi]WL[386] ;B[gg]BL[570] ;W[fi]WL[597] ;B[gk]BL[559] ;W[dl]WL[592] ;B[in]BL[551] ;W[ho]WL[577] ;B[qs]BL[537] ;W[os]WL[574] ;B[la]BL[482] ;W[mb]WL[570] ;B[hi]BL[396] ;W[ok]WL[557] ;B[ol]BL[393] ;W[sj]WL[556] ;B[sk]BL[392] ;W[mm]WL[545] ;B[nm]BL[385] ;W[jl]WL[538] ;B[jm]BL[382] ;W[ll]WL[533] ;B[kl]BL[368] ;W[kk]WL[532] ;B[es]BL[328] ;W[fs]WL[528] ;B[ds]BL[324] ;W[fr]WL[528] ;B[da]BL[315] ;W[bd]WL[524] ;B[ca]BL[309] ;W[ba]WL[515] ;B[ea]BL[308] ;W[ac]WL[514] ;B[jg]BL[283] ;W[sh]WL[509] ;B[sg]BL[282] ;W[qg]WL[504] ;B[rf]BL[281] ;W[an]WL[490] ;B[ao]BL[280] ;W[ma]WL[481] ;B[ka]BL[275] ;W[oa]WL[474] ;B[pa]BL[271] ;W[na]WL[473] ;B[kn]BL[527] ;W[ei]WL[442] ;B[ms]BL[494] ;W[nr]WL[430] ;B[kq]BL[491] ;W[lq]WL[424] ;B[jr]BL[487] ;W[jq]WL[596] ;B[ks]BL[485] ;W[ls]WL[593] ;B[nh]BL[458] ;W[oh]WL[589] ;B[lr]BL[456] ;W[kq]WL[584] ;B[hl]BL[237] ;W[fn]WL[510] ;B[il]BL[233] ;W[li]WL[416] ;B[]BL[221] ;W[]WL[416] ;B[]BL[221]C[ ntn 8k+: ntn dead @ O12 ntn 8k+: ntn dead @ B12 Tapani 9k+: Tapani dead @ N1 ntn 8k+: ntn dead @ B8 Tapani 9k+: Tapani dead @ M2 Tapani 9k+: Tapani dead @ L1 Tapani 9k+: Tapani dead @ K2 ntn 8k+: ntn dead @ J3 ntn 8k+: ntn dead @ G2 ntn 8k+: ntn dead @ P5 ntn done ] ;TW[aa][ab][bc][cc][dc][mc][ad][ae][be][ce][ee][ne][af][df][ag][cg][ng][ah][bh][ch][dh][lh][mh][nh][ai][bi][ki][mi][ni][pi][aj][bj][cj][kj][lj][mj][ak][bk][dk][al][bl][cl][el][fl][dm][em][fm][dn][en][gn][do][eo][fo][go][ep][fp][gp][hp][ip][jp][mp][eq][gq][hq][iq][mq][gr][hr][ir][jr][lr][gs][hs][is][js][ks][ls][ms][ns]TB[ga][ha][ia][ja][qa][ra][sa][fb][hb][ib][qb][rb][sb][gc][hc][ic][pc][rc][sc][hd][id][rd][sd][he][ie][je][re][se][gf][hf][if][sf][hg][hh][ih][hj][rk][pl][ql][rl][sl][om][pm][qm][rm][sm][qn][rn][sn][oo][po][qo][ro][so][ap][pp][rp][sp][aq][bq][pq][qq][rq][sq][ar][br][rr][sr][as][bs][cs][rs][ss]OS[]) (;B[ph]TR[qi]C[my suggestion.(extend towards the weaker side). It seems to me that white needs to sacrifice his triangles stone to try and get outside moves.] ;W[qk] ;B[rj] ;W[rk] ;B[ri]CR[ph][pi][ri][qj][rj]SQ[pj][qk][rk]C[now the situation is similar to the game in that white got forcing moves to strengthen one of his stines. the Big difference though is, that you chose to strenthen your weaker side(circles) and are thus now strong on both side, which means that his squared stones are a big burden and its its not easy to see how he can handle them. Compare to move 27 in the game] (;W[pk]C[seems heavy] (;B[nj]C[first feeling was this : it seemed hard for him to eascape and even if he does, you can build the top in the process. Notice the importance of the fact, that your bottom right is a corner and NOT just a wall. This means you can play from the ogther side without worrying about your corner. after trying for a while it seems white gets out, so maybe you should play a little further away] ;W[nk] ;B[mk] (;W[mj]C[this cut seems like a good move] ;B[ni] ;W[ml] ;B[ok] ;W[lk] ;B[ol]C[not sure, that a trade like this would be great for you. His ponnuki is too good, I guess]) (;W[nl]C[this doesnt let him get out at least I dont see how] ;B[ml] ;W[mj]C[for example ] ;B[ni] ;W[lj] ;B[mm] ;W[nm] ;B[km]C[your stones are weak, but he is dead inside and you run out and make liberties. Dont think white can play like this.])) (;B[mm]C[also an idea to attack more indirectly. I like this best now ] (;W[lm] (;B[ll]C[plan:first seperate his stones from the bottom, make profit attacking later] (;W[km] ;B[ml] ;W[nj] ;B[mh]C[seems terrible for w]) (;W[ml] ;B[nm] ;W[mk] (;B[km] ;W[ln] ;B[kl]CR[kl][ll][km]C[its a fight now... your plus is that your right side is strong everywhere, the cirlced group is your only worry(and its has more directions to run then his group). But his plus is, that he might be able to surround the bottom naturally during the fight. Also high stones on the left seem to be in the right place]) (;B[kl]CR[ln]SQ[km]C[or just extend? keppng the option of the other atari later(circle), but w might want to push at squre immediately]))) (;B[ml]C[maybe just this, no double hane. The fight after he cuts the double hane doesnt see too good.] ;W[nj] ;B[ll] ;W[mi] ;B[km])) (;W[nj]C[he can jump, but his group stays weak])) (;B[nk] ;W[nj]C[seems the wrong direction for you])) (;W[ok]C[also not so great shape] ;B[mm]C[still like this I would suggest]) (;W[ml]C[maybe white can just do this?] (;B[pk] ;W[pl] ;B[oj] ;W[ol]C[looks ok for white] ;B[ql]C[two stones are small now] ;W[qm] ;B[rl] ;W[rm] ;B[sk] ;W[pm]) (;B[ok]C[like this maybe?])))) (;B[nm]))