(;CA[utf-8]ST[2]RU[Japanese]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]GM[1]AB[pd][dp]AP[CGoban:3]SZ[19]FF[4] GC[comments\: Cy == cyclops == mokum == white other comment are redundant's] EV[hahn tournament L19x19]DT[2011-05-12]PC[The KGS Go Server at http\://www.gokgs.com/] PB[hailthorn]BR[10k]PW[mokum ( cyclops in L19x19 )]KM[0]HA[2]TM[2700]RE[B+6.00] MULTIGOGM[1] ;W[qq]WL[2696.92]C[hailthorn [10k\]\: gg Cy\: I type gg, but didn't press enter. Comment from redundant and cyclops ( = mokum = white )] ;B[dd]BL[2694.88];W[fc]WL[2679.59];B[cf]BL[2685.84];W[nc]WL[2673.87] (;B[dj]BL[2683.26]C[see var];W[fq]WL[2667.33];B[cn]BL[2679.99];W[qf]WL[2653.47] (;B[oe]BL[2673.34];W[qc]WL[2646.81];B[qd]BL[2671.86];W[pc]WL[2644.19] (;B[qh]BL[2669.97]C[Seems odd];W[pg]WL[2639.39];B[oh]BL[2668.21]C[Too thin.] (;W[me]WL[2610.87];B[nd]BL[2660.87];W[md]WL[2606.96];B[mc]BL[2656.98] (;W[ne]WL[2593.93]C[HH\: Try to apply the 123-Principle, play P17 immediately.] ;B[od]BL[2655.04];W[oc]WL[2593.07];B[of]BL[2653.49] (;W[lc]WL[2588.06]C[Premature, push up at P13 first];B[po]BL[2641.99]C[Here, black really needs to defend at P13.] ;W[nq]WL[2575.1];B[oq]BL[2637.81] (;W[or]WL[2572.14]C[Cy\: see var];B[pq]BL[2635.01];W[pr]WL[2570.49];B[qp]BL[2634.18] ;W[np]WL[2538.57];B[pl]BL[2626.78];W[oo]WL[2535.46];B[pp]BL[2624.96];W[og]WL[2463.63] ;B[ng]BL[2609.72];W[ph]WL[2461.28];B[pi]BL[2598.61];W[oi]WL[2444.92];B[qi]BL[2596.58] ;W[nh]WL[2442.32]C[HH\: At this point, white has compensated for the handicap stones, and is ahead.] ;B[rf]BL[2589.86] (;W[rg]WL[2429.84]C[cy \: see var HH\: wrong side, block at S15];B[qg]BL[2586.5] ;W[re]WL[2426.09];B[pf]BL[2582.6]C[cy\: did not see the atari];W[sf]WL[2398.36] ;B[oh]BL[2578.74]C[mokum [?\]\: gg mokum [?\]\: oops hailthorn [10k\]\: n_n; HH\: Now, black is in the lead again.] (;W[ok]WL[2356.05]C[cy\: forget about 41&43, see var HH\: Yes, the stones in the center, pasted against black's thickness, are worthless. Trying to save them can only create a weak group.] ;B[ol]BL[2572.85];W[pj]WL[2353.26];B[qj]BL[2567.46];W[mi]WL[2334.42];B[hd]BL[2557.17] C[cy\: see var] (;W[ef]WL[2329.39]C[HH\: Too thin. For splitting F15 is better. Alternatively just take the corner with 3-3.] ;B[fd]BL[2552.72];W[hb]WL[2326.88];B[fh]BL[2548.55];W[cc]WL[2322.29]C[HH\: A bit late, white has invested two extra stone outside, which would be painful to lose.] ;B[dc]BL[2546.24]C[HH\: Should be E17.];W[db]WL[2320.42];B[eb]BL[2543.39] (;W[cb]WL[2319.12];B[ec]BL[2540.01];W[be]WL[2316.77];B[bf]BL[2537.07];W[ce]WL[2314.44] ;B[de]BL[2536.19];W[df]WL[2313.01] (;B[bd]BL[2532.76]C[see var];W[cd]WL[2305.81];B[ch]BL[2530.3];W[af]WL[2293.26];B[bg] BL[2527.08]C[Cy\:] (;W[cq]WL[2286.25]C[Cy\: See var] (;B[cp]BL[2524.86];W[dq]WL[2284.48]C[HH\: Good for white, black should split.];B[ag] BL[2519.26];W[bc]WL[2267.52];B[ae]BL[2515.77];W[ad]WL[2265.64];B[gc]BL[2512.67] C[y\: see var] (;W[gb]WL[2238.61];B[fb]BL[2483.66];W[ge]WL[2234.23];B[ff]BL[2473.35] (;W[cl]WL[2217.4]C[Cy\: see var HH\: Yes, too deep. White should indeed play at the bottom. I would play E4] ;B[dl]BL[2466.64] (;W[bo]WL[2216.51];B[bn]BL[2465.01];W[co]WL[2214.94];B[do]BL[2464.36];W[bp]WL[2212.97] ;B[bq]BL[2460.6];W[br]WL[2206.74];B[ao]BL[2459.19];W[aq]WL[2203.91];B[dm]BL[2457.35] (;W[ei]WL[2188.19]C[HH\: Again too deep. S16 is very very big.];B[eh]BL[2454.69] ;W[di]WL[2182.72];B[ci]BL[2447.75];W[ek]WL[2176.42];B[ej]BL[2445.39];W[fi]WL[2173.96] ;B[fj]BL[2444.19];W[gi]WL[2172.62];B[dh]BL[2442.86];W[gh]WL[2159.99];B[gg]BL[2434.21] ;W[gj]WL[2156.12]C[HH\: Here, white is losing the game, by building a heavy weak group.] ;B[fk]BL[2431.85]C[Cy\: see var] (;W[gl]WL[2147.18] (;B[gn]BL[2417.67]C[See var];W[hp]WL[2132.22];B[in]BL[2415.72]C[Cy\: see var] (;W[rn]WL[2105.8];B[qn]BL[2388.26];W[rp]WL[2099.26] (;B[rm]BL[2386.4]C[see var];W[ro]WL[2093.83];B[rd]BL[2382.49]C[Cy\: good move];W[sd] WL[2086.19] (;B[sc]BL[2378.62]C[See var];W[rc]WL[2085.27];B[se]BL[2377.06];W[qm]WL[2064.09] ;B[ql]BL[2364.59];W[pm]WL[2062.15];B[om]BL[2359.81];W[rl]WL[2055.18];B[sm]BL[2353.26] ;W[sd]WL[2031.88];B[jc]BL[2250.54];W[sb]WL[2025.24];B[lb]BL[2245.27];W[mb]WL[2022.29] ;B[kb]BL[2243.34];W[mg]WL[1970.07]C[HH\: Very important! Good shape which helps all of white's center stones.] ;B[jp]BL[2234.04];W[io]WL[1959.34];B[jo]BL[2232.27];W[jn]WL[1958.21] (;B[ho]BL[2229.87];W[ip]WL[1955.87];B[kn]BL[2228.67];W[jm]WL[1954.12];B[mn]BL[2223.8] ;W[lo]WL[1944.77];B[ln]BL[2221.41];W[ko]WL[1943.02];B[mo]BL[2216.87];W[on]WL[1913.49] ;B[mm]BL[2208.69];W[jq]WL[1881.89]C[Cyclops\:I wanted also to connect. Hoped I would get another chance. I thought I was far behind. Too pessimistic? HH\: White is ahead, but loses the game in the endgame, especially with the ko in the center. Currently, white has four corners and it seems more likely white will make anything in the center than black.] ;B[pn]BL[2205.65]C[mokum [?\]\: thought you missed ithailthorn [10k\]\: I almost did lolhailthorn [10k\]\: I figured you'd have taken them] ;W[jk]WL[1816.26];B[ig]BL[2196.26] (;W[je]WL[1811.94]C[Cy\: see var];B[ie]BL[2194.56];W[go]WL[1767.45];B[fn]BL[2186.58] ;W[hn]WL[1764.04];B[lp]BL[2182.33];W[kp]WL[1761.71];B[mp]BL[2179.93];W[el]WL[1740.48] ;B[fl]BL[2175.23];W[en]WL[1738.63];B[eo]BL[2170.65];W[fo]WL[1733.78];B[em]BL[2167.33] ;W[fm]WL[1722.06] (;B[dn]BL[2159.34]C[See var. End of comments.];W[gm]WL[1718.96];B[en]BL[2157.86] ;W[ml]WL[1690.85];B[nl]BL[2152.36]C[Cy\: see var] (;W[jh]WL[1657.56];B[jg]BL[2147.76];W[ih]WL[1655.22];B[kg]BL[2146.1];W[kh]WL[1648.55] ;B[ll]BL[2145.08];W[mk]WL[1646.09];B[lk]BL[2143.78];W[lj]WL[1635.27];B[nk]BL[2141.07] ;W[nj]WL[1632.65];B[mj]BL[2138.71];W[mk]WL[1613.37];B[ke]BL[2133.03]C[Cy\: see var] (;W[lq]WL[1594.61];B[mq]BL[2126.81];W[mr]WL[1592.44];B[no]BL[2120.18];W[op]WL[1578.92] ;B[nn]BL[2118.33];W[nr]WL[1575.74];B[rh]BL[2111.93]C[mokum [?\]\: good move hailthorn [10k\]\: ty Cy\: see var] (;W[kd]WL[1461.58];B[jd]BL[2107.03];W[kf]WL[1456.18];B[jf]BL[2098.13];W[lf]WL[1448.25] ;B[hm]BL[2097.41];W[im]WL[1443.47];B[gk]BL[2096.15];W[hl]WL[1439.37];B[hk]BL[2094.69] (;W[hg]WL[1415.95]C[Cy\: terrible];B[hf]BL[2090.33];W[lg]WL[1385.68]C[Cy\: terrible] ;B[hh]BL[1989.05]C[mokum [?\]\: good];W[hi]WL[1377.58];B[ii]BL[1977.58];W[hg]WL[1371.63] ;B[rq]BL[1974.01];W[qr]WL[1363.14];B[hh]BL[1971.55];W[dk]WL[1302.76] (;B[ck]BL[1925.39];W[hg]WL[1297.33];B[il]BL[1919.16];W[hh]WL[1275.7];B[hm]BL[1917.18] (;W[gf]WL[1271.47]C[Cy\: terrible];B[fg]BL[1910.1] (;W[he]WL[1257.65]C[Cy\: terrible ];B[if]BL[1908.46];W[ij]WL[1220.69];B[kk]BL[1897.46] ;W[kj]WL[1215.62];B[jl]BL[1894.56];W[km]WL[1208.19];B[ik]BL[1885.52];W[nf]WL[1167.72] ;B[sq]BL[1851.32];W[rr]WL[1161.59];B[so]BL[1845.39];W[sp]WL[1107.02];B[sn]BL[1839] ;W[sr]WL[1102.99];B[ep]BL[1834.98];W[eq]WL[1098.06];B[kc]BL[1831.2]C[Cy\: terrible] (;W[le]WL[1089.96];B[je]BL[1828.15]C[mtthw [1k?\]\: mokum, let me know if you feel up to playing another game cy\: I didn't see mtthw's question] ;W[la]WL[1066.98];B[ka]BL[1815.77];W[ma]WL[1063.46];B[gd]BL[1806.02];W[ap]WL[1046.12] ;B[ld]BL[1799.94];W[mc]WL[1041.54];B[an]BL[1797.45];W[jj]WL[1022.14];B[ml]BL[1793.55] ;W[mj]WL[1018.22];B[pk]BL[1792.8];W[oj]WL[1016.61];B[qe]BL[1788.68];W[rf]WL[1012.57] ;B[sh]BL[1787.33];W[sc]WL[992.849];B[sg]BL[1785.81];W[se]WL[991.096];B[og]BL[1783.28] ;W[ea]WL[969.556];B[fa]BL[1780.35];W[da]WL[968.113];B[fp]BL[1762.25];W[gp]WL[967.202] ;B[hj]BL[1730.07]C[Cy\: terrible] (;W[kl]WL[948.19];B[af]BL[1722.62] (;W[]WL[917.929]C[Cy\: terrible];B[]BL[1722.62]TB[al][id][ga][ha][ia][ja][gb][hb] [ib][jb][fc][hc][ic][ed][ee][fe][ge][he][pe][df][ef][gf][cg][dg][eg][pg][ah][bh] [ph][ai][bi][ri][si][aj][bj][cj][rj][sj][ak][bk][dk][ek][qk][rk][sk][bl][cl][el] [gl][hl][rl][sl][am][bm][cm][fm][gm][nm][pm][qm]TW[ms][ns][os][qb][qs][rs][ss][aa] [ba][ca][na][oa][pa][qa][ra][sa][ab][bb][nb][ps][ob][pb][rb][ac][bd][mf][lh][mh] [ii][ji][ki][li][ni][in][ho][jo][jp][bq][gq][hq][iq][kq][rq][sq][ar][cr][dr][er] [fr][gr][hr][lr][ir][jr][kr][as][bs][cs][ds][es][fs][gs][hs][is][js][ks][ls]C[hailthorn [10k\]\: That game was hard lolmokum [?\]\: gghailthorn [10k\]\: Thank you for the gamemokum [?\]\: you played well, I thought I was behind all the timehailthorn [10k\]\: It wasn't easyhailthorn [10k\]\: You play greatmokum [?\]\: no, but I kept blaming myself for my stupid moves, i didnt see yoursmokum [?\]\: well, are you going to pass the score?hailthorn [10k\]\: Yeshailthorn [10k\]\: Er, post it?mokum [?\]\: PM it to the tounament masterhailthorn [10k\]\: -_- we missed a ko lolmokum [?\]\: yeah, i saw it. Too smallhailthorn [10k\]\: But yes, I will] ;W[lm];B[qo];W[qm];B[pm];W[rk];B[rj];W[sl];B[qm]) (;W[kd];B[lr];W[kq];B[ld];W[qm];B[pm];W[kd];B[ar];W[as];B[ld];W[sl];B[qm];W[kd] ;B[ac];W[ab];B[ld];W[gm];B[hl];W[kd];B[mh];W[lh];B[ld];W[lm];B[kd]C[cy\: same score])) (;W[af];B[kd];W[ae])) (;W[ld])) (;W[la]) (;W[nf]) (;W[qe]) (;W[sn]) (;W[pk])) (;W[ik])) (;B[hj];W[ck];B[am];W[bm];B[al])) (;W[ik];B[hh];W[hi];B[hj];W[ii];B[ij];W[jj])) (;W[gk]) (;W[rq]) (;W[lg])) (;W[sj])) (;W[nk])) (;B[gm];W[hm];B[dn])) (;W[en] (;B[em]C[fails];W[dn] (;B[eo];W[fn];B[fo];W[fm];B[gm];W[fl]) (;B[ep];W[fn])) (;B[dn]C[best choice]))) (;B[im];W[kn] (;B[hq];W[gp]) (;B[lh];W[mh];B[kj]C[g11 is in trouble]))) (;B[rc]C[white is dead, as r15 and s12 are miai])) (;B[rq])) (;W[jo])) (;B[gk];W[hk];B[hl])) (;W[hg])) (;W[en];B[dn];W[gn])) (;W[fo])) (;W[fo])) (;W[fo])) (;B[dq];W[dr];B[cp];W[br];B[bq];W[cr])) (;W[dr])) (;B[ch];W[ss];B[ae] (;W[bd];B[da];W[bb];B[ac]) (;W[ac];B[da];W[ba];B[ab];W[bb];B[bd]))) (;W[ec];B[cb];W[ed]C[HH\: black cannot split because of the double atari at D15, so white can attack F16 and H16.] ;B[de];W[gd];B[fe];W[ee];B[ge];W[gc];B[gg];W[cg]C[HH\: the stones in the corner have good aji like this.])) (;W[db]C[HH\: This slide is not good. Either jump ut to attack H16, or take the corner by playing 3-3 and sacrificing a stone.] ;B[cc];W[cb];B[bb];W[fe]) (;W[cc];B[dc];W[db] (;B[eb];W[cb];B[ec];W[be];B[bf];W[ce];B[de];W[cd]) (;B[cd];W[bb];B[bc];W[cb])) (;W[fe];B[hf];W[fg];B[hh];W[fi]C[HH\: This kind of running battle can develop. White can slide at both D18 and H18 to settle, should te need arise.])) (;W[rd]) (;W[dr])) (;W[mg];B[nf];W[rg]) (;W[re] (;B[qe];W[rg] (;B[qg];W[pf]) (;B[pf];W[qg])) (;B[rg];W[rd];B[qe];W[nf]))) (;W[op];B[pp];W[pq];B[or];W[nr])) (;W[og] (;B[ng]C[HH\: Black cannot block, as you can cut];W[nf];B[ph];W[re];B[rd];W[rc] ;B[sd];W[se]C[white wins the capturing race]) (;B[nf];W[ng];B[mf];W[lc]C[HH\: Now, after black has been cut, is good timing to reinforce here]))) (;W[oc];B[ne];W[ph] (;B[mf];W[lc]) (;B[lc];W[og];B[mf];W[kd]))) (;W[ph];B[pi];W[qi])) (;B[md]) (;B[pg])) (;B[pf]C[Worth considering. ])) (;B[jd]) (;B[kd]))