(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]PW[catsoldier]PB[jenj]WR[6k]BR[5k]DT[2011-06-07]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[jenj [5k\]: good way
catsoldier [6k\]: Hi, have a good game!
]RE[B+9.50];B[pc]BL[1788.461]C[catsoldier [6k\]: ASR League
];W[qp]WL[1762.352];B[dd]BL[1779.636];W[pf]WL[1736.761];B[dq]BL[1759.652];W[co]WL[1719.708]C[jenj [5k\]: unusual fuseki. you like experiments?
];B[ep]BL[1730.863]C[catsoldier [6k\]: yeah, no experiment, no learning ^^
];W[cl]WL[1704.41];B[nq]BL[1703.804]C[jenj [5k\]: good )
];W[qc]WL[1652.509]C[See move 25 for a question regarding this move.
];B[qd]BL[1679.461];W[pd]WL[1640.112]
(;B[qe]BL[1657.151];W[oc]WL[1575.445];B[pb]BL[1650.322];W[ob]WL[1567.198];B[qb]BL[1604.696];W[pe]WL[1533.958];B[nd]BL[1575.562];W[rc]WL[1518.938];B[rb]BL[1569.481];W[qf]WL[1515.519];B[rd]BL[1557.608]
(;W[od]WL[1511.119];B[jc]BL[1524.144]C[Is this an acceptable result for w?  It seems that all w's other stones are low, which makes it harder to profit from the influence, no?  Was R17 (move 10) a mistake?  Should it have been at F17 perhaps?

cy: W10 is locally the only move according to Ishida in his joseki dictionary.
W gets great result compared to the josekis explained before at move 13.];W[no]WL[1457.196];B[jq]BL[1491.285];W[pj]WL[1421.62];B[ch]BL[1442.497];W[dc]WL[1390.82]C[I was thinking that k17 might get weak, and my idea was to make miai between the corner and weakening his top.  Is this a good idea?];B[ec]BL[1419.71]
(;W[cd]WL[1388.04];B[ed]BL[1387.966];W[cb]WL[1382.123];B[ce]BL[1355.027];W[eb]WL[1373.569];B[fb]BL[1348.075];W[bd]WL[1369.266];B[cp]BL[1328.92];W[do]WL[1337.037];B[pn]BL[1267.186];W[op]WL[1304.826];B[pk]BL[1231.438];W[qk]WL[1273.888];B[ok]BL[1210.841];W[oj]WL[1236.102]C[Doesn't seem bad, but would r8 be better?];B[ql]BL[1191.531];W[qj]WL[1179.927];B[nk]BL[1177.063];W[om]WL[1142.142]C[Seems to early to attack.  Better to protect the corner?];B[pm]BL[1131.36];W[mi]WL[1133.809];B[pr]BL[1119.655];W[lk]WL[1122.452];B[mm]BL[1091.678];W[ml]WL[1059.947];B[nm]BL[1075.827];W[on]WL[1001.105];B[po]BL[1030.213];W[pp]WL[875.651];B[oo]BL[1018.196];W[ol]WL[859.61];B[nl]BL[1006.02];W[nn]WL[852.644];B[np]BL[998.773];W[ln]WL[818.352];B[mn]BL[972.064];W[rm]WL[795.14];B[ro]BL[902.28];W[lm]WL[791.272];B[rl]BL[866.231];W[mo]WL[764.877];B[lo]BL[854.273];W[lp]WL[762.461];B[ko]BL[851.055];W[mp]WL[760.924];B[mq]BL[835.61];W[lq]WL[747.854];B[lr]BL[787.689];W[kr]WL[744.458];B[mr]BL[784.355];W[kq]WL[742.177]
(;B[pl]BL[752.995];W[jp]WL[689.698]
(;B[hq]BL[726.457]C[cy:  see variant; b cuts and kills everthing including 49, it seems];W[jo]WL[651.463];B[eo]BL[675.37];W[el]WL[625.524];B[nf]BL[626.95]
(;W[lc]WL[602.485]C[cy:: slack];B[ld]BL[592.65]
(;W[eh]WL[564.413]C[cy: see var: w should exploit b's weaknesses at the top];B[fg]BL[548.279]C[cy: b played 4 consecutive good moves trying to make up for his loss.]
(;W[eg]WL[554.19];B[ef]BL[523.749];W[df]WL[498.781];B[de]BL[494.486];W[ff]WL[477.93];B[ee]BL[487.924]
(;W[gf]WL[476.55];B[gg]BL[457.179];W[hf]WL[474.22];B[di]BL[449.18]
(;W[ei]WL[461.451];B[dk]BL[440.606];W[ek]WL[449.836];B[ej]BL[434.622];W[fj]WL[444.491];B[dj]BL[432.175];W[gi]WL[430.63];B[dl]BL[419.386];W[dm]WL[428.504];B[em]BL[397.931]
(;W[fm]WL[425.996]C[cy: suicidal];B[en]BL[394.687];W[bj]WL[423.545];B[bi]BL[355.428]C[L&D anyone?  Do I have a chance in H***?  I kinda doubt it, but I was thinking I might be able to live long enough to do something to the D8 group.
cy: too late now];W[bm]WL[394.851];B[bo]BL[340.204];W[cf]WL[373.737]C[but this failed.];B[bf]BL[327.458];W[be]WL[360.031];B[dg]BL[316.181];W[hc]WL[290.99];B[ig]BL[301.523];W[hg]WL[286.418];B[mc]BL[295.933]
(;W[if]WL[270.74];B[kg]BL[287.639];W[jg]WL[264.372];B[kh]BL[277.127];W[kf]WL[255.322];B[lf]BL[271.06];W[ke]WL[238.448];B[kd]BL[224.926];W[le]WL[232.438];B[mf]BL[220.932];W[me]WL[227.757];B[ne]BL[215.246];W[md]WL[220.85];B[nc]BL[207.242];W[jd]WL[196.3];B[kc]BL[201.144];W[lg]WL[186.286];B[mh]BL[189.791];W[li]WL[169.539];B[lh]BL[183.551];W[ji]WL[167.937];B[cn]BL[165.484];W[iq]WL[160.128];B[hr]BL[157.212];W[hp]WL[157.251];B[gp]BL[153.688];W[ho]WL[154.808];B[go]BL[144.688];W[hn]WL[149.774];B[gm]BL[135.767];W[gn]WL[133.712];B[mk]BL[116.959];W[ll]WL[127.939];B[ki]BL[112.235];W[kj]WL[121.257];B[ni]BL[107.717]
(;W[nh]WL[97.219];B[nj]BL[82.692];W[jh]WL[70.261];B[mg]BL[76.392];W[re]WL[43.897];B[sc]BL[69.976];W[oh]WL[41.222];B[oi]BL[60.537];W[pi]WL[38.422];B[og]BL[54.608];W[ph]WL[18.03];B[ea]BL[44.385];W[db]WL[7.219];B[id]BL[9.229];W[hd]WL[30]OW[5];B[je]BL[30]OB[5];W[jf]WL[30]OW[5];B[rf]BL[30]OB[5];W[rg]WL[30]OW[5];B[se]BL[30]OB[5];W[rk]WL[30]OW[5];B[sk]BL[30]OB[5];W[ri]WL[30]OW[5];B[fn]BL[30]OB[4]C[Clearly eviler at f8.];W[fl]WL[30]OW[5];B[ir]BL[30]OB[4]
(;W[jr]WL[30]OW[5];B[lj]BL[30]OB[4]C[cy: fianlly];W[jk]WL[30]OW[5];B[nb]BL[30]OB[4];W[lb]WL[30]OW[5];B[ib]BL[30]OB[4];W[hb]WL[30]OW[5];B[oa]BL[30]OB[4]
(;W[qr]WL[30]OW[5]C[Do I hear someone say "finally?"
]
(;B[pq]BL[30]OB[4];W[qq]WL[30]OW[5];B[sq]BL[30]OB[4];W[ps]WL[30]OW[5];B[os]BL[30]OB[4];W[qs]WL[30]OW[5];B[oq]BL[30]OB[4];W[ns]WL[30]OW[5];B[ha]BL[30]OB[4];W[ic]WL[30]OW[5];B[kb]BL[30]OB[4];W[ie]WL[30]OW[5];B[la]BL[30]OB[4];W[ga]WL[30]OW[5];B[ia]BL[30]OB[4];W[jd]WL[30]OW[5];B[gb]BL[30]OB[4]
(;W[sj]WL[30]OW[5]C[cy: gote and unnecessary]
(;B[sl]BL[30]OB[4]C[cy; gote and unnecessary];W[or]WL[30]OW[5];B[qo]BL[30]OB[4];W[rq]WL[30]OW[5]C[Should have been at t 2?];B[sr]BL[30]OB[4]
(;W[ls]WL[30]OW[5];B[af]BL[30]OB[4];W[ae]WL[30]OW[5];B[sg]BL[30]OB[4];W[rh]WL[30]OW[5];B[pg]BL[30]OB[4];W[qg]WL[30]OW[5];B[gd]BL[30]OB[3];W[gc]WL[30]OW[5];B[fc]BL[30]OB[3];W[ge]WL[30]OW[5];B[fd]BL[30]OB[3];W[sh]WL[30]OW[5];B[sf]BL[30]OB[3];W[da]WL[30]OW[5];B[fa]BL[30]OB[3];W[dh]WL[30]OW[5];B[cg]BL[30]OB[3];W[is]WL[30]OW[5];B[hs]BL[30]OB[3];W[js]WL[30]OW[5];B[rp]BL[30]OB[3];W[rs]WL[30]OW[4];B[]BL[30]OB[3];W[]WL[30]OW[4]TW[aa][ba][ca][ab][bb][ac][bc][cc][ad][id][he][je][fg][gg][ig][fh][gh][hh][ih][qh][fi][hi][ii][qi][si][gj][hj][ij][jj][rj][fk][gk][hk][ik][kk][gl][hl][il][jl][kl][gm][hm][im][jm][km][in][jn][kn][io][ko][lo][ip][kp][np][jq][mq][nq][oq][pq][lr][mr][nr][pr][ks][ms][os]TB[ga][ja][ka][ma][na][pa][qa][ra][sa][jb][lb][mb][sb][lc][qc][rc][sd][re][cf][df][ag][bg][lg][ah][bh][ai][ci][li][mi][aj][bj][cj][mj][ak][bk][ck][al][bl][cl][am][bm][cm][dm][qm][rm][sm][an][bn][dn][qn][rn][sn][ao][co][do][fo][so][ap][bp][dp][fp][aq][bq][cq][eq][fq][gq][ar][br][cr][dr][er][fr][gr][as][bs][cs][ds][es][fs][gs]C[catsoldier [6k\]: thanks
jenj [5k\]: thanks!

])
(;W[af]C[cy@jts: where is the ko]
(;B[rs];W[ls])
(;B[nr];W[os];B[rs])
(;B[ms];W[ks];B[rs];W[ls])))
(;B[nr]))
(;W[or]))
(;B[or];W[ns];B[qq]
(;W[rq];B[pq])
(;W[pq];B[rq];W[rr];B[rp])))
(;W[or]C[cy: yes finally but maybe wrong?];B[oq]
(;W[pq];B[ns];W[qr];B[ps];W[ls])
(;W[qr];B[pq];W[qq];B[ns];W[ls])))
(;W[lj]C[cy]))
(;W[nj];B[mj];W[lj]
(;B[oi]C[risky];W[re];B[sc];W[rk]
(;B[sm];W[rn];B[qn];W[qo];B[sn]
;W[rp]C[w kills])
(;B[rp];W[qo];B[qn]
;W[rn]C[w kills]))
(;B[rn];W[nh];B[oq])))
(;W[me];B[ne];W[md];B[nc];W[kc];B[kd];W[jd];B[kb];W[lb]))
(;W[en])
(;W[dn])
(;W[cm]))
(;W[hh];B[dk]
(;W[cg];B[gc];W[dl];B[bg]
(;W[bf];B[cf];W[dg];B[be]
(;W[bh];B[af];W[ci];B[dh];W[dj];B[ei];W[fh])
(;W[ci];B[bi];W[dh];B[bh];W[cj]))
(;W[bh];B[cf];W[dg];B[bi];W[bf];B[ah];W[be]
(;B[fi];W[fh];B[gh])
(;B[ei];W[fh]
(;B[gh])
(;B[ek];W[ck];B[cj]))
(;B[fh])
(;B[hg]
(;W[ig]
(;B[ei])
(;B[fi];W[fh]))
(;W[fi]))))
(;W[bg];B[cf];W[cg];B[dg];W[dh];B[bh];W[bf];B[be];W[ae];B[ag])
(;W[bf];B[cf];W[cg];B[dg];W[dh];B[bg])
(;W[dg];B[bf]
(;W[bg])
(;W[bi]))
(;W[bi];B[cf];W[cg];B[dg];W[dh];B[bg];W[ci];B[fh];W[ei];B[ej]
;W[fi])))
(;W[gg];B[kl]
;W[ll]C[cy: ladder breaker fails]))
(;W[id]L[fc]C[cy: aims at the cut ]))
(;W[dg]
(;B[cg];W[cf]
(;B[bf];W[df];B[be];W[de];B[dh];W[ff];B[eh]
;W[fg]L[bj][fc]C[miai])
(;B[df];W[bf]))
(;B[dh];W[de])
(;B[de];W[be];B[bf];W[cf];B[bg];W[dh])
(;B[fg];W[de])))
(;W[me];B[ne];W[je];B[lc];W[de]))
(;B[kp];W[jr];B[iq];W[ir];B[hq];W[hr];B[gq];W[gr];B[fr];W[or]
;B[oq];W[qr];B[pq];W[qq];B[ns];W[ls];B[ks];W[js];B[gs];W[hs]
;B[fs]
(;W[sr];B[rs];W[rp];B[rr])
(;W[rp];B[rn])))
(;B[jr]C[cy: w resigns]
(;W[kp];B[jp];W[jo];B[kn];W[km];B[jn])
(;W[nj];B[kp])))
(;W[ed]C[Cy: You want to get something out of your wall  Maybe 30 should have been at F17 or J16. But now you should move to the right whatever it costs you in the corner otherwise 30 is inconsistent.  IMHO.]))
(;W[re]C[cy: force then defend];B[sc];W[od]))
(;B[rd]C[cy:joseki]
(;W[oc];B[pb];W[od]
;B[qb]C[even, but easy for black. W would prefer his influence pointing downwards])
(;W[rc];B[rb];W[qb];B[pb];W[ra];B[sb];W[sc];B[rf];W[od];B[pa]
;W[oc];B[qa];W[sa]
;B[rb]C[also joseki. W has 2 sente moves around P18, so he gets influence at the top. ])))
