(; GM[1]EV[Internet Go Server game: mathmo vs iryumika] US[Brought to you by IGS PANDANET] CoPyright[ Copyright (c) PANDANET Inc. 2017 Permission to reproduce this game is given, provided proper credit is given. No warrantee, implied or explicit, is understood. Use of this game is an understanding and agreement of this notice. ] GN[mathmo-iryumika(B) IGS]RE[W+Resign] PW[mathmo]WR[5d ]NW[33] PB[iryumika]BR[6d ]NB[34] PC[IGS: igs.joyjoy.net 6969]DT[2017-12-13] SZ[19]TM[3600]KM[6.500000]LT[] RR[Normal] C[ mathmo 5d : 32 board 1 mathmo 5d : 32 Hi gg ] ;B[kc]BL[3569]C[ iryumika 6d : 32 Have a nice game ] ;W[dd]WL[3572] ;B[ck]BL[3562] ;W[pp]WL[3566] ;B[qi]BL[3533] ;W[qd]WL[3538] ;B[kq]BL[3516]C[ Uberdude 3d : trololol Uberdude 3d : if only chris was on board 1 to play equally silly openings... ] ;W[dq]WL[3422] ;B[qq]BL[3408] ;W[qp]WL[3365] ;B[pq]BL[3373] ;W[oq]WL[3362] ;B[or]BL[3365] ;W[nr]WL[3360] ;B[nq]BL[3285] ;W[op]WL[3352] ;B[mr]BL[3269] ;W[pr]WL[3348] ;B[ns]BL[3255] ;W[qr]WL[3345] ;B[dp]BL[3234] ;W[cp]WL[3295] ;B[qc]BL[2906] ;W[pc]WL[3269] ;B[co]BL[2876] ;W[ep]WL[3239] ;B[do]BL[2859] ;W[cq]WL[3230] ;B[pd]BL[2852] ;W[oc]WL[3073] ;B[qe]BL[2847] ;W[rd]WL[3063] ;B[qb]BL[2844] ;W[re]WL[3057] ;B[od]BL[2828] ;W[nc]WL[2802]C[ iryumika 6d : 111 hey iryumika 6d : 111 we all had connection problem it seems? ] ;B[nd]BL[2809]C[ mathmo 5d : 111 yeah, whole of germany? :) ] ;W[mc]WL[2755] ;B[md]BL[2803] ;W[qf]WL[2703] ;B[pb]BL[2783] ;W[lc]WL[2689]C[ iryumika 6d : 117 again.. hope it wont continue like this :/ ] ;B[ld]BL[2780] ;W[kb]WL[2682] ;B[jb]BL[2778] ;W[lb]WL[2677] ;B[jc]BL[2776] ;W[ob]WL[2668] ;B[rc]BL[2758]C[ Uberdude 3d : I presume daniel read this mathmo 5d : hi, my internet is having a bad day too iryumika 6d : 19 i think its the servers ] ;W[sb]WL[2458]C[ hogweed 1d : communication breakdown hogweed 1d : it's always the same ] ;B[cc]BL[2600] ;W[cd]WL[2346] ;B[dc]BL[2594]C[ Uberdude 3d : just extend sensible now i think ] ;W[ec]WL[2144] ;B[ed]BL[2592] ;W[fc]WL[2100] ;B[bd]BL[2590] ;W[be]WL[2099] ;B[bb]BL[2587]C[ Uberdude 3d : i worry now Uberdude 3d : although w has ladder c15 cut is not small ] ;W[ad]WL[1981] ;B[ac]BL[2584] ;W[bc]WL[1980] ;B[rq]BL[2515] ;W[rr]WL[1978]C[ Uberdude 3d : b has sooooooo many threats ] ;B[bd]BL[2512]C[ Uberdude 3d : w planning to e15? Uberdude 3d : and force b to resolve in small way ] ;W[ee]WL[1959] ;B[ce]BL[2505] ;W[bc]WL[1956]C[ Uberdude 3d : so he says no =) ] ;B[sc]BL[2431] ;W[ab]WL[1764] ;B[pa]BL[2359] ;W[ra]WL[1753] ;B[oa]BL[2349] ;W[ma]WL[1752]C[ aitkensam 4d?: go go mathmo :) ] ;B[rf]BL[2293] ;W[pe]WL[1701] ;B[se]BL[2289]C[ Uberdude 3d : the nice thing watching daniel is you odn't need to read Uberdude 3d : you just assume he did Uberdude 3d : but is that correct? Uberdude 3d : b has played no suprising moves yet ] ;W[qe]WL[1542]C[ aitkensam 4d?: 1,3,5,7 were quite surprising :) Uberdude 3d : does w need to connect instead of atari? ] ;B[eq]BL[2233] ;W[fq]WL[1515]C[ martin97 3d?: why dont you guys play ? aitkensam 4d?: my wife just had a baby :) Uberdude 3d : my wife wanted me to go to badminton joachim 1d+: congratulations joachim 1d+: (not for badminton) aitkensam 4d?: haha aitkensam 4d?: thanks :) Uberdude 3d : sam's is a better excuse aitkensam 4d?: my excuse will help us get promoted in 15 years time :p Uberdude 3d : ah, playing the long game =) Uberdude 3d : so, what ridiculous move can jonas do next? Uberdude 3d : fill a liberty with q14? ] ;B[sd]BL[1935] ;W[rg]WL[1510] ;B[sg]BL[1920] ;W[sf]WL[1506]C[ Uberdude 3d : belgian ko? Uberdude 3d : w can atari from outside ] ;B[rb]BL[1872] ;W[sa]WL[1409] ;B[rf]BL[1865] ;W[sh]WL[1401]C[ aitkensam 4d?: i dont get b play ] ;B[sf]BL[1860] ;W[qh]WL[1395]C[ SimbaRules 2k+: err ] ;B[ri]BL[1857]C[ SimbaRules 2k+: surely w has enough liberties... ] ;W[rh]WL[1382]C[ aitkensam 4d?: b squeeze? ] ;B[ph]BL[1849]C[ aitkensam 4d?: and build magic centre?# Uberdude 3d : hane is quite nice SimbaRules 2k+: too big surely SimbaRules 2k+: p4 already thick aitkensam 4d?: gotta think good for w Uberdude 3d : yeah i liked lower right for w Uberdude 3d : l3 looks dum Uberdude 3d : at least be j3 aitkensam 4d?: yeah l3 is sad Uberdude 3d : he did the wrong symmetry SimbaRules 2k+: Is black the strongest player in their squad? aitkensam 4d?: well i havent looked at other two games, but even 2-2 v germany would be good right? SimbaRules 2k+: yes, we're ahead by 1 board point SimbaRules 2k+: so 2-2 is fine Uberdude 3d : he is highest rated Uberdude 3d : a well known vrazy player SimbaRules 2k+: ah Uberdude 3d : got stronger recently SimbaRules 2k+: Crazier than my 6-5s lol? aitkensam 4d?: jonas is strong. this game hasn't been a good example though Uberdude 3d : in china SimbaRules 2k+: ah, he visited there recently? I see ] ;W[of]WL[1246]C[ Uberdude 3d : the cego training Uberdude 3d : he used to be the crazy 5d who could beat 5ds but not 6ds aitkensam 4d?: hmm, w shape could get ugly now Uberdude 3d : now he beats 6ds sometimes too SimbaRules 2k+: I think Daniel is also getting stronger SimbaRules 2k+: hmm, yes, but if w gets surrounded totally either way, it's nice to poke in a little further first SimbaRules 2k+: probably black will get worse shape this way SimbaRules 2k+: q11 could become important ] ;B[oe]BL[1683] ;W[qg]WL[1217] ;B[nf]BL[1680]C[ aitkensam 4d?: feels like the poke was bad ] ;W[na]WL[1037]C[ SimbaRules 2k+: surely black captures SimbaRules 2k+: not sure why he is thinking SimbaRules 2k+: extra liberty for the corner ] ;B[qa]BL[1618]C[ aitkensam 4d?: yeah must cap ] ;W[sa]WL[1032] ;B[eo]BL[1598] ;W[fp]WL[1021] ;B[fo]BL[1590]C[ aitkensam 4d?: as meng tai ling would say, 有点不会 ] ;W[dj]WL[954]C[ SimbaRules 2k+: thank you move? aitkensam 4d?: more like, i dont know what to do because many things are good enough SimbaRules 2k+: haha SimbaRules 2k+: you know Chinese? neat SimbaRules 2k+: I've been meaning to start learning that, with their economy growing so much it will become important in the future aitkensam 4d?: it's useful, but not as useful as it was when i started aitkensam 4d?: lots of good go material in english now aitkensam 4d?: pro game wise too SimbaRules 2k+: haha, I meant more for general life :) aitkensam 4d?: hehe true ] ;B[fj]BL[1450] ;W[dk]WL[946]C[ aitkensam 4d?: surprisingly few jobs need chinese here though, only stuff in london really aitkensam 4d?: or boring stuff like being an agent/translator for rich chinese people ] ;B[cj]BL[1421]C[ SimbaRules 2k+: I guess in terms of jobs they would never really hire an English guy for that anyway SimbaRules 2k+: so many Chinese people come here for university who are native speakers ] ;W[di]WL[931] ;B[ci]BL[1412]C[ aitkensam 4d?: mm, depends on the job SimbaRules 2k+: even if 'fluent', there always is something missing it feels ] ;W[dl]WL[919]C[ SimbaRules 2k+: yeah, I suppose ] ;B[cl]BL[1400]C[ aitkensam 4d?: something like english news about china, requires native english really aitkensam 4d?: but again, boring SimbaRules 2k+: being ethnically Chinese seems to have perks when dealing with other Chinese people, even if you can speak Chinese really well ] ;W[dh]WL[904]C[ SimbaRules 2k+: like my Chinese friends in restaurants here can get things that aren't on the menu lol ] ;B[pg]BL[1393] ;W[sb]WL[898]C[ aitkensam 4d?: hehe makes sense aitkensam 4d?: they just get what the owners eat :p SimbaRules 2k+: hahaha SimbaRules 2k+: yellow curry aitkensam 4d?: f10 quite close to the wall :) aitkensam 4d?: b s6 and p6 next? :) ] ;B[np]BL[1319]C[ aitkensam 4d?: wowzer SimbaRules 2k+: this feels basically over SimbaRules 2k+: w just has too much solid territory SimbaRules 2k+: plus komi too aitkensam 4d?: totally opposite to my thinking Uberdude 3d : was something wrong with p12 for w? aitkensam 4d?: i think p12 worked earlier SimbaRules 2k+: just a case of anything wins I guess SimbaRules 2k+: yeah SimbaRules 2k+: before q13 aitkensam 4d?: not sure it was super excellent though aitkensam 4d?: but locally looked the best SimbaRules 2k+: hard to lose from here, b needs to kill something aitkensam 4d?: h10 so tempting SimbaRules 2k+: lol Uberdude 3d : but wasnt it better to not be sealed? Uberdude 3d : daniel wants to cut? aitkensam 4d?: you mean instead of d10? SimbaRules 2k+: maybe b plays tenuki to develop the left or something though SimbaRules 2k+: I'm not sure I'd reply to p12 Uberdude 3d : i mean instead ofo19 SimbaRules 2k+: it feels like there isn't time SimbaRules 2k+: oh, hmm ] ;W[hp]WL[753]C[ SimbaRules 2k+: yeah, seems sensible ] ;B[go]BL[1298]C[ SimbaRules 2k+: but I guess this way it's clean, no worries for ko or anything aitkensam 4d?: maybe could lead to bigger seal though, although more cut aji SimbaRules 2k+: q11 is nice to have ] ;W[jp]WL[715]C[ SimbaRules 2k+: but really I don't think it's needed SimbaRules 2k+: keep it simple ] ;B[oo]BL[1290] ;W[qn]WL[695] ;B[pn]BL[1267] ;W[ro]WL[685] ;B[fh]BL[1232] ;W[jk]WL[355]C[ Uberdude 3d : i start to feel nervous... SimbaRules 2k+: lol Uberdude 3d : time trouble plus crazy jonas = worry ] ;B[io]BL[1081] ;W[hj]WL[274]C[ martin97 3d?: i guarantee that he would win this against me ^^ ] ;B[gk]BL[1059] ;W[hh]WL[269] ;B[ff]BL[983] ;W[kh]WL[228] ;B[hk]BL[967] ;W[ke]WL[210]C[ SimbaRules 2k+: yep, nice move, like it SimbaRules 2k+: flexible ] ;B[ig]BL[815] ;W[jg]WL[85] ;B[if]BL[788] ;W[ih]WL[79] ;B[kj]BL[773]C[ aitkensam 4d?: life and death game now ] ;W[jj]WL[41]C[ aitkensam 4d?: with g11 sente, life should be okay SimbaRules 2k+: not even convinced white needs to live ] ;B[jf]BL[668] ;W[kf]WL[39] ;B[ki]BL[666] ;W[ji]WL[38] ;B[lg]BL[656] ;W[kg]WL[38] ;B[fd]BL[649] ;W[ch]WL[578] ;B[de]BL[644] ;W[bd]WL[577] ;B[gc]BL[643] ;W[gb]WL[575] ;B[gd]BL[633] ;W[hb]WL[573] ;B[db]BL[621] ;W[ea]WL[559] ;B[eb]BL[555] ;W[fb]WL[556] ;B[ca]BL[554] ;W[fa]WL[464] ;B[da]BL[551] ;W[id]WL[419] ;B[ic]BL[527] ;W[df]WL[405] ;B[gi]BL[441] ;W[lh]WL[400] ;B[mi]BL[426]C[ aitkensam 4d?: jonas did a good job of making complications ] ;W[li]WL[354] ;B[lj]BL[420] ;W[mj]WL[353] ;B[kl]BL[167] ;W[nh]WL[189] ;B[ni]BL[139] ;W[oi]WL[175] ;B[nj]BL[136] ;W[mh]WL[151] ;B[pi]BL[89] ;W[mk]WL[101]C[ aitkensam 4d?: tick tock ] ;B[ll]BL[84] ;W[oj]WL[85] ;B[nk]BL[76] ;W[oh]WL[75] ;B[og]BL[61] ;W[kd]WL[71] ;B[hc]BL[58] ;W[pk]WL[67] ;B[ok]BL[40] ;W[pj]WL[45] ;B[qm]BL[24] ;W[pl]WL[11] ;B[nl]BL[17] ;W[pm]WL[2]C[ aitkensam 4d?: nooo SimbaRules 2k+: omg faster SimbaRules 2k+: instaclick SimbaRules 2k+: cmon daniel aitkensam 4d?: start ko? aitkensam 4d?: that's two moves without thinking SimbaRules 2k+: just atari something SimbaRules 2k+: too big to ignore aitkensam 4d?: take in top right should be big SimbaRules 2k+: even something crude like l9 SimbaRules 2k+: anything aitkensam 4d?: then start ko SimbaRules 2k+: I hope it goes back to 2.0 rather than being on fractional seconds... SimbaRules 2k+: easier to use less than 1 second twice SimbaRules 2k+: maybe b's best chance to play something like c14 lol SimbaRules 2k+: entirely unexpected aitkensam 4d?: maybe e2 :) karatego 3d : feels like black is making white wait martin97 3d?: i dont think so, he is in a tough position on the board, its reasonable to think aitkensam 4d?: it's definitely reasonable even if he's doing it just for time win aitkensam 4d?: w should manage time better, it's part of the game too martin97 3d?: true but not nice ^^ karatego 3d : yeah I wouldn't call it good sportsmanship aitkensam 4d?: sure, i'm just saying, i wouldn't blame him :) aitkensam 4d?: he is playing for his country after all :) karatego 3d : I wouldn't be surprised if he plays, like, r5 SimbaRules 2k+: lol SimbaRules 2k+: I've played enough on kgs to expect stuff like r5 and c14 i guess ]; OS[afar][aitkensam][Butterfly][ekku][eyezz] [fj][FrenchDude][gopard][HansWerner][hogweed] [hwspan][joachim][jogo23][just444fun][karatego] [kisekigo][Kupitman][martin97][mumps][saraneth] [SimbaRules][Superkladd][Tony18][Uberdude][Ziridan] )