no Iyama, no Shibano
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| Author: | xiayun [ Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | 2020 Samsung Cup |
No more double-elimination group stage. This year is going to be fast and furious, with the first round starting on 10/27 and the best of 3 final scheduled for 11/2-4. Round 1: Hong Seongji vs. Tong Mengcheng Park Jinsol vs. Lian Xiao Gu Zihao vs. Ichiriki Ryo Kim Cheayoung vs. Yang Dingxin Shin Minjun vs. Tang Weixing Lee Donghoon vs. Ke Jie Lee Changho vs. Li Xuanhao Park Junghwan vs. Xie Erhao Shin Jinseo vs. Liao Yuanhe Kim Minseok vs. Xu Haohong Shi Yue vs. Ida Atsushi Kang Jihoon vs. Hsu Chiayuan Cho Hanseung vs. Zhou Hongyu Byun Sangil vs. Chen Yaoye Lee Yeongkyu vs. Li Weiqing Choi Jaeyoung vs. Mimura Tomoyasu Some exciting matches, but could also mean a wild lineup later if some top players get knocked out early. |
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| Author: | dsatkas [ Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2020 Samsung Cup |
no Iyama, no Shibano
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| Author: | silviu22 [ Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2020 Samsung Cup |
dsatkas wrote: no Iyama, no Shibano Yes, but this might not be too bad, since Ichiriky Ryo has done better than either of those to in this year's International tournaments. |
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| Author: | xiayun [ Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2020 Samsung Cup |
Round 1 results (winners in bold): Hong Seongji vs. Tong Mengcheng Park Jinsol vs. Lian Xiao Gu Zihao vs. Ichiriki Ryo Kim Cheayoung vs. Yang Dingxin Shin Minjun vs. Tang Weixing Lee Donghoon vs. Ke Jie Lee Changho vs. Li Xuanhao Park Junghwan vs. Xie Erhao Shin Jinseo vs. Liao Yuanhe Kim Minseok vs. Xu Haohong Shi Yue vs. Ida Atsushi Kang Jihoon vs. Hsu Chiayuan Cho Hanseung vs. Zhou Hongyu Byun Sangil vs. Chen Yaoye Lee Yeongkyu vs. Li Weiqing Choi Jaeyoung vs. Mimura Tomoyasu Ichiriki Ryo excelled again in beating Gu (gorating #4). |
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| Author: | xiayun [ Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2020 Samsung Cup |
Round 2: Shin Jinseo vs. Lian Xiao Hong Seongji vs. Li Weiqing Xu Haohong vs. Xie Erhao Choi Jaeyoung vs. Shi Yue Byun Sangil vs. Li Xuanhao Kang Jihoon vs. Yang Dingxin Shin Minjun vs. Ichiriki Ryo Cho Hanseung vs. Ke Jie |
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| Author: | xiayun [ Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2020 Samsung Cup |
Round 2 results: Shin Jinseo vs. Lian Xiao Hong Seongji vs. Li Weiqing Xu Haohong vs. Xie Erhao Choi Jaeyoung vs. Shi Yue Byun Sangil vs. Li Xuanhao Kang Jihoon vs. Yang Dingxin Shin Minjun vs. Ichiriki Ryo Cho Hanseung vs. Ke Jie Lian Xiao lost on time after battling back against Shin. And Ichiriki beat another top 10 player to advance! |
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| Author: | xiayun [ Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2020 Samsung Cup |
Quarterfinal (10/30): Yang Dingxin vs. Li Weiqing Ke Jie vs. Li Xuanhao Xie Erhao vs. Ichiriki Ryo Shi Yue vs. Shin Jinseo |
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| Author: | xiayun [ Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2020 Samsung Cup |
Results: Yang Dingxin vs. Li Weiqing Ke Jie vs. Li Xuanhao Xie Erhao vs. Ichiriki Ryo Shi Yue vs. Shin Jinseo |
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| Author: | Uberdude [ Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2020 Samsung Cup |
Poor Shi Yue, he lived up to his killer reputation, but then Shin Jinseo went revenge kill beserk and managed to pull it off. Re-live the drama at https://www.twitch.tv/bibalive |
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| Author: | John Fairbairn [ Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2020 Samsung Cup |
I was surprised to see TWO losses on time in this internet event. To misquote Oscar Wilde: to lose on game on time, Mr Worthing, is unfortunate, but to lose two suggests something odd, such as drastically shortened time limits or connections problems. Has anyone seen any reports of such issues? |
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| Author: | lichigo [ Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2020 Samsung Cup |
As expected the finale will be between the number 1 shin jinseo VS the number 2 ke jie. Best of 3 starts next monday ^^ |
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| Author: | xiayun [ Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2020 Samsung Cup |
The final everyone wanted to see: Shin Jinseo vs. Ke Jie (11/2 - 4) Ke Jie is going for his 4th Samsung Cup title, while Shin is looking to complete one of the most dominant years ever. |
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| Author: | hyperpape [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2020 Samsung Cup |
Got to see a minute of the Samsung Cup, and on move 32 (I think), Shin Jinseo played on the first line because of a misclick. |
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| Author: | xiayun [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2020 Samsung Cup |
It's move 21: https://ww4.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/007vqutdgy1gkaomi0zm2j30zk0ku77x.jpg |
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| Author: | xiayun [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2020 Samsung Cup |
There wasn't much suspense after that early misclick, as Ke Jie won game 1 in just 120 moves. |
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| Author: | Uberdude [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2020 Samsung Cup |
It wasn't even a misclick in that Shin's finger did not click the mouse when it was in the wrong place. He was using a wired external mouse with a laptop and the wire trailed over the keyboard and touchpad of the laptop which evidently did not have the tap to click feature disabled, so the wire movement on the touchpad registered as a click. Shambolic organisation and refereeing. |
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| Author: | baduk [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2020 Samsung Cup |
One more reason why i absolute hate online tournaments even with absolute cheating control. |
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| Author: | Uberdude [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 5:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2020 Samsung Cup |
Online tournaments could be run a LOT more professionally than this. I work for a company which makes project management software. One of the features customers use a lot is the "Risk Register", which is basically a big table for each project where you enter things that could go wrong with the project, the probability of them happening (not exactly, usually just a 1-5 low to high scale), the impact if said bad thing happens (again usually just a rough 1-5 though sometimes more quantified), mitigation steps, whose job it is, mitigated probability/impact, manager sign off etc. Here's a few brainstormed entries for a risk register of a "let's hold a big international tournament online" project: 1. Power cut 2. Internet down 3. Wifi outage 4. Windows update during game 5. Mouse failure 6. Computer crash 7. Lag, leading to loss of byo-yomi period 8. Toilet break 9. Cheating with bot from on-person device 10. Cheating via signals from accomplice 11. Server downtime 12. Misclick from user error 13. Misclick from hardware error 14. Battery run out (e.g. wireless mouse) 15. Lag leading to loss of game 16. Technical failure e.g. internet connection lag from hack/DDOS from malign parties |
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| Author: | hyperpape [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2020 Samsung Cup |
Great list. The thing that went through my head yesterday was that talking to established esports figures would be a good idea. A big tournament like the Samsung Cup could probably afford to pay someone for a short "consulting" engagement, but smaller events and organizations could probably just talk to someone over virtual coffee and come away with a ton of ideas. I'd wager someone in that community has a blog post that runs through disabling tap to click, and a great many other things. |
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| Author: | WindCaliber [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2020 Samsung Cup |
Do the organizers have no protocols for these kinds of situations? Or is it something like the player is responsible for their own hardware, which does not fall under the organizer's responsibility? What a shame for both players—I'm sure Ke Jie didn't want to win like that. |
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