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Author: | Pippen [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Samsung cup main tournament |
Did someone see ONE game where black opened with nirensei (two hoshi one the same side)? |
Author: | handa711 [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:34 pm ] |
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0.5 difference. Couldn't have been more epic. |
Author: | lovelove [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:08 pm ] |
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Pippen wrote: Did someone see ONE game where black opened with nirensei (two hoshi one the same side)? No, from the pro games I saw in 2012. Maybe there are some, but seems very unpopular. I wander why. |
Author: | lemmata [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Samsung cup main tournament |
Pippen wrote: Did someone see ONE game where black opened with nirensei (two hoshi one the same side)? Seo Neungwook (sic?) 9P plays a lot of nirensei as black. He is an older pro from the Cho Hunhyun Era, but still plays these days. He seems to play it mainly to shorten the opening and fight like crazy, rather than for any special strategic consideration. |
Author: | trout [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:03 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Samsung cup main tournament |
2nd game; Gu Li defeated Lee Sedol by resign. Strange and exciting game... 3rd game:12/13/12 |
Author: | lemmata [ Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:38 pm ] |
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Gu Li = 21st century Fujisawa Shuko? Agree, disagree, discuss. |
Author: | emeraldemon [ Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:48 pm ] |
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Author: | cdybeijing [ Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:10 pm ] |
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lemmata wrote: Gu Li = 21st century Fujisawa Shuko? Agree, disagree, discuss. I don't understand the comparison. Could you elaborate a little bit? |
Author: | lemmata [ Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Samsung cup main tournament |
cdybeijing wrote: lemmata wrote: Gu Li = 21st century Fujisawa Shuko? I don't understand the comparison. Could you elaborate a little bit?Agree, disagree, discuss. |
Author: | trout [ Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:15 am ] |
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3rd game; Lee Sedol defeated Gu Li by 0.5 and took Samsung cup title. determined facial expression!!!!!!! |
Author: | handa711 [ Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:30 am ] |
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How did he manage to win by 0.5 BOTH games!!??. This feels like Touya Kouyo vs Sai. |
Author: | logan [ Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:30 am ] | ||
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Gu Li suffered from same mistake in first game: relaxing during endgame and losing a few points. They started fighting from the opening and Lee Sedol came out with an advantage. Gu Li made a comeback and entered the endgame with a favorable position. Then with some relaxed moves 154 & 156 lost a few points.
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Author: | Lucian [ Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:07 am ] |
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logan wrote: Gu Li suffered from same mistake in first game: relaxing during endgame and losing a few points. They started fighting from the opening and Lee Sedol came out with an advantage. Gu Li made a comeback and entered the endgame with a favorable position. Then with some relaxed moves 154 & 156 lost a few points. Logan, the commentary about 154 and 156 is your own opinion, or is from some pro commentary? I am asking because 154 move doesn't seems optional and is not only about tickness - if blacks cut there, I believe white is in real trouble. And 156, is a huge yose move. |
Author: | p2501 [ Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:22 am ] |
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http://badukmovies.com/special_games/51?move=8 |
Author: | emeraldemon [ Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:03 am ] |
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Watching these 0.5 pt games makes me realize how bad I am at endgame. |
Author: | yoyoma [ Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:05 am ] |
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logan's sgf for game #3 has the player colors wrong, Lee Sedol was Black. |
Author: | logan [ Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:11 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Samsung cup main tournament |
yoyoma wrote: logan's sgf for game #3 has the player colors wrong, Lee Sedol was Black. Thank-you for pointing it out, I've fixed it.Lucian wrote: logan wrote: Logan, the commentary about 154 and 156 is your own opinion, or is from some pro commentary? I am asking because 154 move doesn't seems optional and is not only about tickness - if blacks cut there, I believe white is in real trouble. And 156, is a huge yose move. |
Author: | DeFlow [ Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:08 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Samsung cup main tournament |
It would be really nice, Logan. =] Yesterday I reviewed game 2 on KGS with Oren and some others. There is so much going on, middle game ended around move 200. And yes, he dominated the fuseki stage... Some how it feels wrong when such a strong professional loses because of his weak endgame. |
Author: | Uberdude [ Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:12 pm ] |
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I've updated my pro title table (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.j.s ... Table.html). Gu Li was so close to getting his first international title since 2010, I wonder if he will replicate his success of previous years or are the new generation going to take over. Lee Sedol seems to be here to stay for a while. The younger generation make up 3 of the 4 finalists in the upcoming Ing Cup (Park Junghwan 9d of Korea vs Fan Tingyu 3d of China) and Chunlan Cup (Chen Yaoye 9d of China vs Lee Sedol 9d of Korea). |
Author: | Pippen [ Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:26 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Samsung cup main tournament |
lemmata wrote: Pippen wrote: Did someone see ONE game where black opened with nirensei (two hoshi one the same side)? Seo Neungwook (sic?) 9P plays a lot of nirensei as black. He is an older pro from the Cho Hunhyun Era, but still plays these days. He seems to play it mainly to shorten the opening and fight like crazy, rather than for any special strategic consideration. Seo Nungwuk. Thx, he seems to be the only pro who still opens with nirensei. |
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