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Post #1 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:17 am 
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I have pretty much stopped reading the E-journal. The e-mail now comes and all it contains is links to other articles. It is no longer possible to open an e-mail and read all the latest news. Am I the only one who finds this annoying?

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Post #2 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:22 am 
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No, I agree. I sent an email about it, and got a slightly hostile reply. I also think the RSS feed sucks, because EVERY ARTICLE TITLE IS IN ALL CAPS. But they don't seem to understand why that would be an issue.

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Post #3 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:35 am 
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No, I agree. I sent an email about it, and got a slightly hostile reply. I also think the RSS feed sucks, because EVERY ARTICLE TITLE IS IN ALL CAPS. But they don't seem to understand why that would be an issue.


Perhaps they should use CSS style "text-transform:uppercase" in the emails and on the website, that way they could capitalize their titles normally :roll:


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Post #4 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:41 am 
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Yes, the new format triggered me ignoring them basically completely. The old format was much more enjoyable to read...

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Post #5 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:57 am 
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I guess we're making progress. When the E-Journal first started people were ranking on it because it wasn't a normal printed-on-paper magazine. Now it seems the electronic medium has been accepted and people are complaining about the format :lol:

The new format isn't so bad IMO but it could be made easier to navigate, say by using different colors or bold face type to make it easier to identify what's in the different sections.

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Post #6 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:20 am 
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I actually liked the old-fashioned format before they made the change. It was quaint, but I read it all. Now I don't read hardly anything.

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Post #7 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:24 am 
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Yes, the new format triggered me ignoring them basically completely. The old format was much more enjoyable to read...


I have to agree. The new format is quite offputting.

Maybe some wise head at the AGA could realize that change is not necessarily progress and go back to the prior, far superior format?

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Post #8 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:24 am 
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I like the format just fine.

I like the coverage even better.

i.e.

July 26: "Leland Yee came to the San Francisco Go Club on Sunday, July 18th to present Mingjiu Jiang 7P with a Certificate of Recognition from the California State Senate in honor of the Ing Chang-Ki Goe Foundation and their continued sponsorship of the World Youth Goe Championship."

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Post #9 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:42 am 
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Yes, I've found it unreadable for quite a while. In my case, I think it may be partly due to e-mail client setup -- when I got the newsletter, the pictures were in the wrong places, breaking up the text in difficult ways.

I no longer receive the newletter, but I do take the RSS feed from the AGA's news page. I simply use Google's newsreader. This works just fine for me.

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Post #10 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:57 am 
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I'm not a fan either, although I'll got further and say that the Journal as a whole has been declining for some years. It used to be full of interesting articles, stories, interviews and the quiz (thanks Keith!), and I thought that it helped bring us together as a community. These days it's just a handful of tournament reports recycled from other websites, and I don't think it's nearly as relevant.

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Post #11 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:18 am 
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I guess we're making progress. When the E-Journal first started people were ranking on it because it wasn't a normal printed-on-paper magazine. Now it seems the electronic medium has been accepted and people are complaining about the format :lol:
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Actually, I still would prefer a normal "printed-on-paper" magazine, but I doubt that that will ever happen. Preferring the old format for the E-Journal seems more like a "lesser of two evils" situation than anything else.

However, more than all of that, I miss the weekly go quiz. That usually brought a highlight to my week, even when I didn't participate.

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Post #12 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:47 am 
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I like the new format, because I can ignore the news I am not interested in. Not being American, it isn't every article that would catch my eye.

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Post #13 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:52 am 
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I was never a big fan of the E-journal.
The old format, or the new one...

I would like to see the info simply put on the website somewhere instead of emailing it left and right.
You could format it better then, and people could read it with their browsers rather than using email clients. Email can be a restrictive format, not well suited to such things. Unless you really wish to have control over who is reading and who is not.

So my preference would be - a nice webpage, and maybe an email notification new articles published.

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Post #14 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:55 am 
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I would like to see the info simply put on the website somewhere ...

it is

http://www.usgo.org/news/

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Post #15 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:58 am 
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Bantari wrote:
I would like to see the info simply put on the website somewhere ...

it is

http://www.usgo.org/news/


Lol. Shows how much I know. ;)
Then why bother sending it to people on top of that?

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Post #16 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:23 am 
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Bantari wrote:
xed_over wrote:
Bantari wrote:
I would like to see the info simply put on the website somewhere ...

it is

http://www.usgo.org/news/


Lol. Shows how much I know. ;)
Then why bother sending it to people on top of that?


There is the issue of member only content, I assume there are other ways of providing it, but right now it comes in the email.

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Post #17 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:26 am 
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There is the issue of member only content, I assume there are other ways of providing it, but right now it comes in the email.


Huh?
I know the ejournal is provided to tons of non-members!
Me included.

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Post #18 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:33 am 
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Dr. Straw, if you prefer a different format, go all the way to the end of the e-mail and click on the link that says "Display in Browser." You will get the full text, and all the photos, displayed as a webpage, on the main site, with the regular AGA formatting.

Bantari - The members edition contains commented games every week. These are often professional games, and they are commented by top pros like Michael Redmond. This content alone is worth the upgrade to full AGA membership, in my opinion.

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Post #19 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:33 am 
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Horibe wrote:
There is the issue of member only content, I assume there are other ways of providing it, but right now it comes in the email.


Huh?
I know the ejournal is provided to tons of non-members!
Me included.


The "Members only edition" occasionally provides go problems and pro commentary. With the old version, this was done via email attachment. Now, they provide web links to such material.

However, if I am not mistaken, it's just a link, and non-members can view the content, too, if they have the link.

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Post #20 Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:29 pm 
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I guess we're making progress. When the E-Journal first started people were ranking on it because it wasn't a normal printed-on-paper magazine. Now it seems the electronic medium has been accepted and people are complaining about the format :lol:

The new format isn't so bad IMO but it could be made easier to navigate, say by using different colors or bold face type to make it easier to identify what's in the different sections.


Not true. One of the several reason I finally dropped out of the AGA was the lack of a printed journal. I found the e-journal annoying and hard to read and I certainly couldn't read it in bed as I used to like to. But at least the old format was all in one place so I could scan it, even though I rarely read it all. Now I cannot even do that.

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