It's not like there are any ko threats.

I was wondering if they were going to fight this, because making threats here is a bit lossy for us if we win the ko and they kill off most of our aji. Of course, mw42 is a bit stronger than me and is clearly more familiar with the proverb "don't fight early game ko".

An upside of mw42's last move (for them)- perceval has to make the threat follow-through. Any(/only) local response around C5 should be okish, and then we have to live with white (aiming at) splitting Q4 and K4. Anyhow, I'm personally tempted to play d6 (hane against contact) because a small shortage of liberties helps us. Otherwise C6 stops us being pushed down to second line as if we c4. I'll hold off on evaluating our result until my next move.

The hane doesn't work so I just going to extend. I think black got the better end of the deal here. We have some endgame reductions but they have development on both sides and sente.

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[go]$$Wcm22 The hane
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$$ | . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 6 1 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O 3 O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 5 X . O X . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . 7 X O O O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 8 . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

No real choice, much as I want to get something like N3 or O3, we have a gote result over here. It's going to be hard to deal with our weak group, having to push here makes it weaker. I have a sneaking suspicion we have to push again before jumping, not that it's my decision.

I'm trying to pick a fight here. I want perceval to hane. If he doesn't then at least we get to push black to the second line.

mm strange i was expecting the obvious hane at a.

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[go]$$Bcm25 Prisoners:
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . . . . . , . . . |
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$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . a b . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i could hane myself now at b but in fact it looks good to take sente: to deprieve us of the hane they will have to play again in the same area which will be gote. So i approach from an empty side, and we'll see later what to do with the bottom left
a little tewari to confort me: if they play later at a it would be has if we tenukied after the hane but the continued by extending which would just be strange

This corner looks odd. I think my keima wasn a mistake. Anyway, I think Mnemonic should try attaching to the stone to make a moyo on the left.

We have tengen so we pincer. I don't know if this is a good rule of thumb, but you are supposed to start fight and pincers are a fine way of doing so. I choose the 2 space high because I like pincering, I don't like getting counterpincered.

What on earth happened to the board in the last twelve hours. argh.

I'm speculating when and if I can work something like this in:

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[go]$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 1 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Maybe if we can jump again on top sometime. I'm only vaguely familiar with mw42's move (in context of 3-3 invasion joseki: I think Emerus vs Redundant 2H had a cursory rundown of it if you're profoundly interested).

I don't like our last move, but I don't see anything better now then to go with so we're stuck.

i like mnemonik move i must say seems to work with the tengen; for that reason i prefer to grab a life base before jumping again; he might ignore and cap though ... we ll see

I'm totally jumping again. (Because a knights move there looks too good for white.)

PS: I feel like black is spectacularly behind after the last nine moves :/ We have a tiny corner, white now has a huge corner/side, and we have a weak group (assuming we settle this one).

PPS: Other than a better/simpler I'm not sure where I've gone wrong. What would you have played in my shoes, or otherwise?

PPPS: For perceval, when he reads this (at first completely accidentally in verse)-

'A' as you guessed was probably best
Although 'C' was a mention of mine
at D4 you were right to deplore
But forcing B4 C3 B3 before
Extending c9, things would be fine
(Play on both sides*.. and all the rest

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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners:
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 3 2 . . O X . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . 5 4 X O O O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 6 . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

*Admittedly getting four weak stones is not the best development.
**I inferred you thought A was best because you labelled it A.

Not too sure about my choice now. I wanted a fight and ended up with a quickly settled black group Need to be more careful about joseki choices next time.

I'd have played F13 with no thinking.

I'd like to know if someone considered this move and why he rekected it.