Ok, I counted. White has around 80. Black is a little harder to count. We have 40 certain points with a lot of potential. Violence's move says he wants to make cash in the center. (I would pay money to know if he agreed with my last choice or is just making the best of things...) This move makes around 20 points, with the option for some more. J4 is worth about 25 points (swing value). However, this might be sente, but J4 is gote as hell. If we get half of the center, J4, and either invade the top left or convert the top into points, we will have a very close game. Below is the sequence I expect.

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[go]$$Bcm115 Move 115 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 7 . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 6 . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O . O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . 4 2 3 . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O 1 . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O 5 , X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

couple of reasons to atari here. one, if white plays to protect the atari'd stone blacks moyo gets bigger. two it creates a possible ko.... and three, i don't want white in my moyo!!!

I tried to find something else beyond basic instinct, like a counter atari, for instance, but I didn't like any alternative I could find. So basic instinct it is.

It seems like daniel's being the most sane so far, so I'll attempt to seal Magicwand's moves and leave it to daniel.

I forgot to mention it in my analysis, but I thought that Violence might force here first. I will play J4 after Magicwand responds.

That's a cool 25 points for us assuming I counted and read correctly. I think this game is close. We might be a few points behind; it depends on what happens on the top next.

Kinda annoyed that daniel got that point. It would have been so much nicer if Phelan did last round

Still, let's throw a curveball peep. Eyeing up all that aji at the following points:

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[go]$$Wcm122 Move 122 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . d . . c . b . 1 . a . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O . O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X , X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i wanted to play same move for so long..i am happy he thinks like i do

I think I'm losing track of what's happening in this game. Also, I hope I can find the followup to that corner invasion...

After much debate i decided on this move because because it forces white to play to prevent the cut, and reinforces black for the fight coming in the corner.

I hadn't seen this move by Jordus. I don't think ignoring it and threatening to connect the white stones is big enough to allow the capture of those 3.

The last two moves were both mistakes. I think Violence will now play something that prevents white from living at all in there.

I expected this kind of move from Magicwand... but from you, Topazg,

Ore wa dare da to omotte yagaru!?(Just who the hell do you think I am!? Quote from anime.)

i have 2 people behind me who might play unexpected move. and i dont even know the answer to this problem.

Might as well attempt to kill the whole thing. I read out that at least white can't cut us off immediately, so this seems like the obvious move.

We try to live ...