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Author:  iSoma [ Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:54 am ]
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*bump*

ist the game still running? phelan, hope everything is ok!?

Author:  Phelan [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:45 am ]
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Thanks for the concern, but other than the exam not going well, everything is ok.

Sorry to all for the delays.

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[go]$$Wcm136 Move 136 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X 1 X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

No idea what to play. I don't think the previous sequence I thought about works now.
This is another ko threat, a local one.
I think I need to count the game to see whether to ask to resign or not on my next move.

Author:  Jordus [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:04 am ]
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Did violence take a break?

Author:  Violence [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:50 am ]
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Been pretty busy, and my other Malkovich game is taking up most of my thinking time.

I also didn't notice Phelan moved, sorry.

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[go]$$Bcm137 Move 137 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X 1 X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm pretty sure this is the only move. MW has the choice of ko, or connect back. I think he'll connect back.

Author:  topazg [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:55 am ]
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At least we're connected to some of it now:

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[go]$$Bcm137 Move 137 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . 3 O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X O O X X 4 |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X 1 X 2 5 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X 6 |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


the following looks fun too:

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[go]$$Bcm137 Move 137 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X 1 X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . 6 . . 4 5 O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X 2 . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X 3 . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Author:  Magicwand [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:26 am ]
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[go]$$Bcm138 Move 138 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . W . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
saving the corner is too small and easy way to lose. i will look for something somewhere else. this is how i play to win.

Author:  daniel_the_smith [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:16 am ]
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[go]$$Bcm138 Move 138 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . B . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Right, this is the game where I'm playing Magicwand even. :/

Can white live in there? It doesn't look easy. This move kinda bets the game on white dying. But we kinda need the whole area to win.

Author:  topazg [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:54 am ]
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[go]$$Wcm140 Move 140 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . 1 . . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Author:  Violence [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

I think.... we're ok...

*waits a bit nervously for Jordus*

Author:  Jordus [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:03 pm ]
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[go]$$Bcm141 Move 141 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O . O 1 . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Author:  Violence [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:47 pm ]
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Phew... ok... ok... we're alright, as long as Phelan doesn't play the tesuji.

Author:  Phelan [ Sat Jul 17, 2010 3:58 am ]
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[go]$$Wcm142 Move 142 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O 1 O X . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
This seems to still leave some cutting points in black and white with sente. F13 ended in gote for just one extra point, and I didn't like E15 and G13.

Author:  daniel_the_smith [ Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:14 pm ]
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I don't know what white's best move was, but I'm pretty sure that was a major gift. Black looks ahead now.

Author:  Violence [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:01 am ]
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[go]$$Bcm143 Move 143 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O O O X . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . 1 . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Whew... I think we're ok.

Author:  Magicwand [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:58 am ]
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[go]$$Bcm143 Move 143 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O O O X . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X W . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i lost my will to fight :) but....black still have weakest link that can play like computer go.. i know we will get another chance.

Author:  daniel_the_smith [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:19 am ]
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[go]$$Bcm143 Move 143 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O O O X . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X B . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


He's bluffing or hoping for a mistake. By my count we're about 10 points ahead, not quite enough that I feel it's worth it to atari on the other side of the white stone, giving them a few stones in exchange for safety. I hope we can get d18, that would really seal the deal.

Author:  topazg [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:22 am ]
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[go]$$Wcm144 Move 144 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X 1 . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O O O X . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm144 Move 144 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . 2 4 . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X 1 3 . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O O O X . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X 6 X 7 . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X 5 . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Author:  daniel_the_smith [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Ah, crap, I didn't think about that side, grrr.

Oh well, it's not the first time I lost the game for us. :cry:

Author:  Jordus [ Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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Author:  Violence [ Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

*facepalm*

Just... two moves of reading...

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