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 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
Post #201 Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 3:53 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm141 Move 141 - W: 2, B: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O 1 . . . O O O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | . O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X . O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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Still doesn't work for white.
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[go]$$Bcm141 Move 141 - W: 2, B: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O 1 . . . O O O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | . O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | . X 1 4 . X . O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . 2 3 . . . . . . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'd like to take sente, but something like this is more points than I really want to give up. And that's assuming there isn't a way to take the corner I didn't read out well. I'm wary of just following him around the board, though, so I'll keep an eye out for a good place to take sente.

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[go]$$Bcm141 Move 141 - W: 2, B: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O O O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | . O X . . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | 4 X 3 . . X . O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . 2 5 . . . . . . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #202 Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 3:59 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm142 Move 142 - W: 2, B: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | . O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X . O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 1 . . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Strategy and Thoughts

Carrying on my sente fun and frolics. Will play on the right next, and if he responds, I'll clamp at B2. If he doesn't, I'll see what fun and games can be had on the right. For one thing, I can probably play S4 (normally gote) as a sente move, and that'll give me a good amount of endgame on the right side...

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 Post subject: Re: Malkovich #27 - topazg (1d) vs Numsgil (8k)
Post #203 Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 5:19 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm143 Move 143 - W: 2, B: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | . O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X . O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 1 O . . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Strategy and Thoughts
I don't want to get in a situation where I follow him around the board, but I think this threatens more than just some points of territory because of the aji of the empty triangle (still think it was a good move, though).

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Post #204 Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 12:41 am 
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[go]$$Wcm144 Moves 144-146 - W: 2, B: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | . O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X . O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . 2 1 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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Actually, I don't have enough liberties for the clamp anyway, so I'm going to keep picking up my sente points for a while

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Post #205 Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 4:08 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm145 Moves 145-148 - W: 2, B: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | . O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X 1 O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . 5 X O 2 . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . 3 O 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Strategy and Thoughts
See my last post. If I ignore to take sente I force a sequence that I am afraid white can use to take a huge chunk of the corner, if not kill it out right.


Tactics and Variations
So the reasoning behind my forcing move. Basically, this is a uncomfortable position for black but I don't think white has anything. (We'll see soon, I guess :))
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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X 9 X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | . O X 8 . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | . X 6 . . X 1 O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . 7 0 . 2 X O 3 4 O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't think there's a way to kill this white group or force a seki (just checking :))
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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | . O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X O O 2 O O X 3 4 O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . 1 . 6 5 7 8 . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Threatening something like this is possible in the future, though.
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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | . O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X X O O X O X O O 1 X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X O O . O O X 2 4 O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . 6 . 5 3 . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If white ignores, though, I still can't kill the bulk of white's group. So it's a big move but not a 100%-absolutely-must-answer for white.
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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | . O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X X O O X O X O O 1 X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X O O . O O X 3 4 O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . 6 8 7 . . 5 . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #206 Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 4:57 pm 
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[go]$$Bc Alternative to Move 149
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | . O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #207 Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 1:33 am 
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[go]$$Wcm150 Moves 150 - W: 2, B: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | . O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | 1 X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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Same as before. Black could have prevented this with 149 at C2. After this sente, off to the right hand side...

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Post #208 Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 1:24 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm151 Moves 151-157 - W: 3, B: 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | 3 O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | 6 X 4 . . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | 1 2 5 . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . 7 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Trigger: if you defend against 157 at either J2 or K1, 159 takes the ko back.

Strategy and Thoughts
I think he's treating this as a forcing exchange. There isn't a really great followup locally that keeps sente.

But he's chipping away at me by 2 points here and there, and I need to start monkey wrenching some of his plans if I want to win. So I'm going to go for the ko. Given that a whole quarter of the board are my dead stones, I should have way more ko threats than him.


Tactics and Variations
This was my original thought for a good solid 30 minutes. White doesn't have a local sente followup.
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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | . O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . 1 . . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Something like this kills most of the corner.

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | . O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X 1 . . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | . 2 3 . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


But I went for the direct ko for either side. I think I'll probably win the exchange, dangerous though it may be. It should gain me something like 8 points vs. just defending. If I lose the ko without adequate compensation, I lose the game.

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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | 3 O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X 4 . . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | 1 2 5 . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Blocking the other way doesn't work at all. I win without the ko.

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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | 6 O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X 2 7 . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | 1 3 4 5 X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . 8 9 . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wcm152 Moves 152 - W: 2, B: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | 1 O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | X . . . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Strategy and Thoughts

I have no need, or desire, for a ko fight here. Sente is what I'm after.

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[go]$$Bcm153 Moves 153 - W: 2, B: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | O O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | X 1 . . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Strategy and Thoughts
Ah, he's no fun :P

He still has sente, though.


Tactics and Variations
This doesn't work for white:
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[go]$$Wcm152 Moves 152 - W: 2, B: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | O O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X 1 2 . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | X X 3 . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . 4 . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wcm154 Moves 154 - W: 2, B: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O 1 . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | O O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | X X . . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Strategy and Thoughts

I am much less sure whether this is sente. However, if he ignores, I can still get some useful and big followups against both the corner and the edge, and it's worth quite a lot of points in its own right (greater than 5), so I'm happy playing it. I'll post some further thoughts depending on what he does next :)

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[go]$$Bcm155 Moves 155 - W: 2, B: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . 1 , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | O O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | X X . . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Strategy and Thoughts
Feels dangerous to leave this like it is, but I think I can still live in that corner.

Taking sente, my goal is to just reduce his moyo to the point where I can still win this game.


Tactics and Variations
Fails for white.
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O O 7 |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X 3 |
$$ | O O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X 2 1 5 |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . 4 6 |
$$ | X X . . X X O O . O O X . . O X 8 . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This leads to a ko.

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X 3 |
$$ | O O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X 2 1 6 |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . 4 5 |
$$ | X X . . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Back to the move I made:

This isn't much of a reducing move, but I secure some territory as well.

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[go]$$Bcm155 Moves 155 - W: 2, B: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . 0 9 . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . 8 7 5 . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . 6 O 3 X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . . 1 2 . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . . . 4 X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | O O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | X X . . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This is a bit better for black, I think. I can reinforce myself with a series of forcing/squeezing moves.

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[go]$$Bcm155 Moves 155 - W: 2, B: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . 9 . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . 7 6 . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . 5 O 3 X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . 8 1 2 . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . . 0 4 X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | O O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | X X . . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #213 Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 4:42 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm156 Moves 156 - W: 2, B: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . 1 X , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | O O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | X X . . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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Yeah, that's sensible, though I'm happy with my endgame left. I want to pull back here, because it's a bit vulnerable above, and there aren't many points exchanging hands here.


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[go]$$Wcm156 Moves 156 - W: 2, B: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . 5 4 . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . 7 O 6 X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . 1 X , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . 3 2 . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | O O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | X X . . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #214 Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 7:04 pm 
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That ko black offered was a really bad idea unless you're 100% sure you can won it. It was basically a picnic ko for white.

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White is just looking for the quickest way to end the game...Black should resign. I think a komi of this level is absurd though, seems to lead to more passive play than if say it were a 5 or 6 stone game. As a learning experience a normal handicap game is probably superior.

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Post #216 Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 10:24 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm157 Moves 157 - W: 2, B: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . O X , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . . 1 . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | O O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | X X . . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Tactics and Variations
I get to keep sente because of this:

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[go]$$Bcm157 Moves 157 - W: 2, B: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . 5 O X , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X 4 3 1 . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | O O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | X X . . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #217 Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 1:15 am 
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[go]$$Wcm158 Moves 158 - W: 2, B: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . O X , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . 1 X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | O O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | X X . . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Strategy and Thoughts

I'm going to count soon, but I'm pretty sure I'm slightly over 10 points ahead, so securing everything is good enough. I'm trying very hard to learn how to "win a won game", and this seems as good a way to do it as anything.

In the diagram below, "a" concerns me slightly, though I now have the shape to happily play "b" I think. "c", "d", and "e" are my remaining moves that I really want, in that order.

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[go]$$Wcm158 Moves 158 - W: 2, B: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X d O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . a . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . b . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . O X , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X e O . . . X . 1 X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X c |
$$ | O O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | X X . . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Tactics and Variations

If he plays the sequence I previously predicted, I'll take all my sente in the lower right before settling the top, as follows:

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[go]$$Wcm158 Moves 158-167
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . 3 2 . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . 5 O 4 X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . O X , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . 1 X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O O 9 |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X 7 |
$$ | O O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . 8 |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . 0 . |
$$ | X X . . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm168 Moves 168-170
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . 3 . X . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . O O X X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . O X , . 2 . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . O X . X . 1 |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O O O |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X O |
$$ | O O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . X . |
$$ | X X . . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Score and Counting

And if so, I make the score as follows:

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[go]$$Wcm168 Moves 168-170
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | y O X y O X y y y y y W B x x x x x x |
$$ | y O O X O X O O y y W O B X x X x x x |
$$ | y O X X y X O X X y O X x O X x X x x |
$$ | y O O X X O y O y y W B X x O X x x x |
$$ | X O X O y O y O y y y O O X X x x x x |
$$ | y X X O y O O y y y y y . . x x X x x |
$$ | y y X O y y y y y y y y O . X x x x x |
$$ | X y X X X O y y y y y y y O X x x x x |
$$ | y X y y O . W y y y y O y O O X X x x |
$$ | O X O X O B . . y y y y y O X B . X B |
$$ | X O O y O X . O y y y X y O X W X . O |
$$ | y X O O . . . . . y y y y O O O X . W |
$$ | y O y . . X . . O X y X y y X y . . . |
$$ | y y O O X x x . O O O O W O W O O O O |
$$ | y O X X x X x X X X X X O B B O X X O |
$$ | O O X x x x x X O X O O X X X X x x X |
$$ | O X x x x X X O O X O X O O . X x X x |
$$ | X X x x X X O O y O O X W W O X x x x |
$$ | x x x x X O O y y y y W B B B B x x x |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Black: 10 points lower right, 17 points lower left, 40 points upper right, 1 prisoner, 70 points komi = 139 points
White: 9 points lower middle, 70 points upper left, 18 points upper middle, 51 points middle = 148 points.

I might save those top stones instead at move 170, but it looks ok for now.

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Post #218 Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 1:20 am 
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White is just looking for the quickest way to end the game...Black should resign. I think a komi of this level is absurd though, seems to lead to more passive play than if say it were a 5 or 6 stone game. As a learning experience a normal handicap game is probably superior.


I do like reverse komi games much more than just taking handicap, because I have the feeling I learn more. White is not so much after overplaying, because he knows he can outfight Black and I always get a nice insight of possibilities to play in different situations, which never occur in handicap games because of the Hoshi-stones.
Of course knowing how to use and defend Hoshi-stones is quite useful aswell, but I like the feeling of an "even" match. Handicap always feels a bit artificial to me.

But yeah, this amount of reverse komi is absurd, you're right ^^

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Post #219 Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 1:37 am 
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In his analysis, topazg somehow mistreats the lower right corner.

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Post #220 Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 2:09 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm159 Moves 159-161 - W: 2, B: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . O X , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | O O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | X X . . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . 2 1 3 . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Strategy and Thoughts
I've divided diagrams for very different moves below into different sections to make it easier to read. Basically at this point, well into the end game, I'm just shotgunning for points here and there where I can.


Tactics and Variations
A sequence like this is almost forced:
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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O 4 X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X 3 O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , 1 2 X 5 O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . O X , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | O O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | X X . . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This sequence is great for white/

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O 3 . . O O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X 1 O X X . X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O 4 2 X O X X . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . O X , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | O O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | X X . . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Something like this doesn't work out well either.

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X 1 O X X . X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . . X O X X . X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . 2 O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . 3 4 5 . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . 6 7 . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . O X , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | O O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | X X . . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Tactics and Variations Part 2
Trying one line higher doesn't end well either.

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[go]$$Bcm158 Moves 159 - W: 2, B: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . 8 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O 7 6 . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , 2 3 X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . 5 1 O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . 4 . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . O X , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | O O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | X X . . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Tactics and Variations Part 3
Trying something entirely different: this starts a ladder (there are other variations on this theme that end similarly).

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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O 1 3 O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . 2 O X , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | O O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | X X . . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


But, of course, white can just block down the other way, and all I manage to do is hook up with a weak group.

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[go]$$Bcm158 Moves 159 - W: 2, B: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . 1 2 . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . 6 4 . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O 5 3 O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . 7 O X , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | O O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | X X . . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Tactics and Variations Part 4
This sequence doesn't gain me much at all

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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . 2 . , . . . O X , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X 1 O . . . X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . 3 4 . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | O O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | X X . . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Likewise this:

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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O 8 . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O 7 6 3 . , . . . O X , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X 4 O . . . X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . 9 5 1 2 . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | O O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | X X . . X X O O . O O X . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Tactics and Variations Part 5
If I look for more orthodox double sente moves on the board, I do find this.

Since this needs to be played eventually anyway, and white can't ignore it to take sente because it allows me to kill a huge chunk of his bottom group, I'll go ahead and make this move now and then think some more about where to try and steal some points from white.

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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . O X , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | O O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O . X . . . |
$$ | X X . . X X O O . O O X 4 . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . . . . 2 1 3 . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If white ignores sente and lets me move again, I threaten something like this:
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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . O X , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | O O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O 3 X . . . |
$$ | X X . . X X O O . O O X 1 5 O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . 6 . 7 2 4 O X X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This way kills white's entire bottom group:

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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . O X , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | O O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O 3 X . . . |
$$ | X X . . X X O O . O O X 1 . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . 5 . 4 2 . O X X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This is probably the best response if white ignores me to take sente, since this is gote for black, but this is worth something like 14+ points vs. just defending and taking gote.

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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X O X O O . . . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O X X . O X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . O . , . . X . O X . . . |
$$ | X O X O . O . O . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . O . . O . X . . |
$$ | O X O X O . . . . , . . . O X , . . . |
$$ | X O O . O X . O . . . X . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . . O X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . O O O O . O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X X X X X O . . O X X . |
$$ | O O X , . . . X O X O O X X X X . . . |
$$ | O X . . . X X O O X O X O O 5 X . . . |
$$ | X X . . X X O O . O O X 1 . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . 2 . 4 3 . O X X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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