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 Post subject: Re: #159 - opex vs Nome
Post #41 Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:58 pm 
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Probably be a bit slow in my posts for the next two weeks, this one is a busy week at school and then I am on Spring break so I don't know how often I'll be on my computer.

I've never seen anything played other than jumping here so that's what I'll do. Let's see how white wants to play from here.


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Post #42 Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:50 am 
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Going on with the joseki
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Post #43 Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:54 am 
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Sorry for the long delay. I was on break and I had very limited computer access. But I am back now and will be able to play regularly again.


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Post #44 Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:02 am 
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Nome wrote:
Sorry for the long delay. I was on break and I had very limited computer access. But I am back now and will be able to play regularly again.

No problem, glad to see you here again :)
No nice wall for me... :)
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Post #45 Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:38 am 
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To be honest, I haven't really read this out that much but it seems like this cut is playable and I think it will be more interesting than simply letting white build a nice wall.



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Post #46 Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:55 am 
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Hard position. Choices: c3, k4, g5.

San-san is likely gote, so black will choose next move, maybe solidify bottom. I don't like this.

k4 will probably lead to
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White is strong, but black has lots of territory. I doubt i can get enough playing like this.

As to g5, i want to overplay:
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This feels dangerous, but... I can't see anything better :(
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Post #47 Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:41 am 
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This is just awful. Nearly as bad as black S16

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Post #48 Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:58 am 
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Perhaps I am missing something but this move seems odd to me. This seems to passive by white and I think his remaining shape isn't very good. Obvious move for me is to capture the cutting stone. I am thinking this is how things will play out. And I am pretty happy with this result.


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Post #49 Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:23 am 
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So, i want to start something here :)
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Post #50 Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:37 am 
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Instinct says keep groups separated. Plus now it looks like white has 2 week groups


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Post #51 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:21 am 
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Good move, keeping my weak groups separated. I'm starting to want to resign :)

I can't choose between c12 and c5, i want both :) It's hard to predict black's answers, so i can't say whether something is sente or not. But i can say that if black approaches d16, i definitely want to answer. So, i should prevent him from approaching. Though c12 is a pretty wide extension...
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Post #52 Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:48 am 
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$$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . c . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

So there are three things on my mind for my next move: a, b, or c. The first option A, is not necesarrily a specific move, but white now has a nice framework on the top and I'm going to have to do something about eventually. However, I think whatever is happening in the left/bottom is much more interesting at this point so I am going to leave the top alone for a little bit longer.

Next thing I was thinking is B. This seems like a solid move to me, it seems like it helps keep white seperated strengthens black locally and it seems like it would be a big point for white or black, so while I like this move, I want to play C first.

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[go]$$Wcm29 Captures: black - 0, white - 0.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . 5 . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . 3 . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X 4 . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I want to keep white out of my corner for a couple of reasons:
1. I want to keep white out of my corner to both secure some points for myself and
2. to make sure that white can't get a base down there so that it remains weak enough.

I know white can run his group out now and that is what I am expecthing him to do. I don't really want to get greedy and try to kill white, he has a weak group and I am just hoping to get something out of his efforts to save it. In the diagram I've included 1 idea of what might play out. Who knows if white will play like this, but as long as I get 5 in the end I am happy.


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[go]$$Wcm29 Captures: black - 0, white - 0.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X 4 . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . . . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm not too worried about white playing like this because now his weak group is in even more trouble. He might try this to add complication to the game.


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[go]$$Wcm29 Captures: black - 0, white - 0.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #53 Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:33 pm 
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It seems he wants to attack my group. Maybe the time has come to play the atari to make my way out a bit easier.
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[go]$$Wcm31 Captures: black - 0, white - 0.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . 1 . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #54 Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:29 am 
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I obviously have to respond here, my options were to connect or to capture white's stone. I've decided just to go for the connection so he doesn't get the follow up atari.

Now he has to protect his cut since it seems to work how I have read it. The net doesn't work and the neither does the ladder.

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[go]$$Wcm31 Captures: black - 0, white - 0.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X 7 . 5 . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . 8 6 4 1 . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X 2 . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm31 Captures: black - 0, white - 0.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X 2 . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #55 Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:47 pm 
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I really enjoy watching this game.

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Post #56 Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:08 pm 
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I really enjoy watching this game.



Thanks for watching!

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Post #57 Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:14 am 
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I hope that abandoning the h5 group now won't cost me the game :) I think i can run out. So i'm going to follow up c12.

If he goes for a wall, i'll gladly connect and take territory. If he hanes, i'll crosscut and try to have something. I need to be careful not to let him force d8 run out and thus launch a splitting attack.
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[go]$$Wcm33 Captures: black - 0, white - 0.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . 1 X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #58 Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:34 am 
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It seems like Black's putting things into place for a C17 invasion - the game feels very hard for White if Black gets that invasion in sente.

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Post #59 Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:17 pm 
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This is my move, I will add explanation tomorrow.


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[go]$$Wcm33 Captures: black - 0, white - 0.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #60 Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:25 pm 
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To choose between d17 and c16, look at the sides, pick the biggest, and block from that side.
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[go]$$Wcm35 Captures: black - 0, white - 0.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X 1 . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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