Life In 19x19 :: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck

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It has been rather like ones daily bowel movement for some time...

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Koroviev wrote:

Review?

Sure. I'd like to hear opinions on four things:
1) The upper right when W wedged
2) The lower left
3) T8 vs B2
4) Did I miss a kill on the right? ( Jedo's suggestion looks dangerous )

thank u for that comments
although i dont agree with all his comments but generally great comments.

moves like 121 was played with many minutes of thinking..
there is reason why i played that move.
if i played as he said i would lose on points.
not fair for him to judge by spending few sec on thaT MOVE

Magicwand wrote:

Hi, Magic Man! You can type!

I trust that you are mending well.

moves like 121 was played with many minutes of thinking..
there is reason why i played that move.
if i played as he said i would lose on points.
not fair for him to judge by spending few sec on thaT MOVE

I had surgery on my left hand. Will have my penguin hand for 6 weeks. Meanwhile one finger will type everything.

Author:	schultz [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:41 pm ]
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Another admin has fallen! Who will fall against the wrath of the great Magicwand next time?! Thanks for the game guys. Been fun following it.

Author:	Uberdude [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:00 pm ]
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Thanks guys for the show.

Author:	Bonobo [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:05 pm ]
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Yeah, thanks to both of you for making this so thrilling and for the insight into your minds!

Author:	Joaz Banbeck [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:59 pm ]
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You all are welcome...but actually I've been a bit disappointed in myself for recently slacking off in commenting.

Author:	Kirby [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:00 pm ]
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Thanks for playing, guys. I was actually not sure who was ahead as of the last couple of moves, so it would have been fun to see how things played out. Still, good game.

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Author:	Koroviev [ Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:47 am ]
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Review?

Author:	Buri [ Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:19 pm ]
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Greetings, thank you so much for an enthrall ing and informative thread. It has been rather like ones daily bowel movement for some time. Got a bit unnerving on the days it didn't happen.... Cheers, Buri

Author:	Magicwand [ Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:05 pm ]
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Koroviev wrote: Review? I tried to review but already mentioned all important thought during the game. please ask if you have any questions.

Author:	Joaz Banbeck [ Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:15 pm ]
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Buri wrote: ... It has been rather like ones daily bowel movement for some time...

Author:	Joaz Banbeck [ Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:18 pm ]
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The one move that I really regret: Uberdude wrote: ... Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 1 black: 0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . \| $$ \| O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . \| $$ \| . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . \| $$ \| . . . X . . . O . O O O X . O O X . . \| $$ \| . . . . . X . . O X O X O . . X . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . X . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . \| $$ \| . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X 7 . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X 3 6 8 \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . 2 . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . 5 . . O X O X X O . \| $$ \| . . O 9 . . . . O X . . O . O O O 4 . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . O . O X X X . . . . 1 . \| $$ \| . . . X . O . X . O X O . X . X . X . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ ---------------------------------------[/go] Arrgggggg! I can't belive that I missed that. I saw that 2 was forcing so I terminated the search on that branch without looking further. Move 7 is such a nice bonus.

Author:	Joaz Banbeck [ Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:20 pm ]
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Koroviev wrote: Review? Sure. I'd like to hear opinions on four things: 1) The upper right when W wedged 2) The lower left 3) T8 vs B2 4) Did I miss a kill on the left? ( Jedo's suggestion looks dangerous )

Author:	Magicwand [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:31 am ]
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Joaz Banbeck wrote: Koroviev wrote: Review? Sure. I'd like to hear opinions on four things: 1) The upper right when W wedged 2) The lower left 3) T8 vs B2 4) Did I miss a kill on the right? ( Jedo's suggestion looks dangerous ) 1) what drmwc said.. i was surprised to see that you answere other way. 2) i think below move is the best move: (best being safest way to win) if you count correctly on below position.. you will realize that black can not lose this game. Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 2 black: 0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . \| $$ \| O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . \| $$ \| . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . \| $$ \| . . . X . . . O . O O O X . O O X . . \| $$ \| . . . . . X . . O X O X O . . X . . . \| $$ \| . . X O . . . . . X X . . . . . X . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . \| $$ \| . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . X . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . O . . O X O X X O . \| $$ \| . . O C . . . . O . O . O . O O O . . \| $$ \| . X . . . . . O . O X X X . . . X O . \| $$ \| . . . X . O . X . O X O . X . X . X . \| $$ \| . . X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . B . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ ---------------------------------------[/go] 3) T8 appears to be bigger and simpler. i made that choice after careful calculation of my lead. 4) yes you did missed the kill (i missed the kill initially) i explained correct kill move if you go back and see my thread. i was behind until you invested many moves on my left group and i tenukied to earn more points on top. 3 stones are big handycap.. even if you lose local fight you still have many chances to win. i recommend SDKs not to give up on handycap game after big mistake. if you keep your cool then you will have good chance of winning.

Author:	Joaz Banbeck [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:56 pm ]
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I got a chance to attend a lecture by Evan Cho, a 7D amateur from Korea. He commented on games that we played. I showed him this game. The SGF below has his comments, as best I can remember them.

Author:	Magicwand [ Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:04 am ]
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thank u for that comments although i dont agree with all his comments but generally great comments. moves like 121 was played with many minutes of thinking.. there is reason why i played that move. if i played as he said i would lose on points. not fair for him to judge by spending few sec on thaT MOVE

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Author:	Bill Spight [ Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:48 am ]
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Magicwand wrote: thank u for that comments although i dont agree with all his comments but generally great comments. moves like 121 was played with many minutes of thinking.. there is reason why i played that move. if i played as he said i would lose on points. not fair for him to judge by spending few sec on thaT MOVE Hi, Magic Man! You can type! I trust that you are mending well.

Author:	Magicwand [ Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:45 am ]
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Bill Spight wrote: Magicwand wrote: thank u for that comments although i dont agree with all his comments but generally great comments. moves like 121 was played with many minutes of thinking.. there is reason why i played that move. if i played as he said i would lose on points. not fair for him to judge by spending few sec on thaT MOVE Hi, Magic Man! You can type! I trust that you are mending well. I had surgery on my left hand. Will have my penguin hand for 6 weeks. Meanwhile one finger will type everything.

Author:	Joaz Banbeck [ Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:56 pm ]
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Magicwand wrote: moves like 121 was played with many minutes of thinking.. there is reason why i played that move. if i played as he said i would lose on points. not fair for him to judge by spending few sec on thaT MOVE You mean 123? He didn't comment about 121. I think 121 is ok for it threatens to kill my corner. But after white 123, black's acorner is safe, and black can tenuki to F10 which probably kills. Magicwand wrote: I had surgery on my left hand. Will have my penguin hand for 6 weeks. Meanwhile one finger will type everything. I hope your recover goes well. Be patient, let it heal. You can communicate a lot with one finger.