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Post #1 Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:33 pm 
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I seem to be missing some major points which is costing me these games, but i cant figure out what i am doing wrong. Please review. Thank you in advance.








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Post #2 Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:48 pm 
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Hi o00o00o,

Game with djthedj:
:b34: Do you need this move ?
What if you omit this move -- can you study what happens locally ?
( May need to read 4 moves. )


Game with puregravy:
:w10: Can you find a better local move ?
( Maybe difficult ; need to read 4+ moves )

:b11: ( related to above question) Can you think of another option for Black ?


Game with sle:
:b17: ( More difficult ): Can you study what if you cut at E8 ?
What if you cut at G8 ? ( May need to read 4+ moves. )


Game with sdsd:
:b25: ( difficult ): Black misses a very big chance to crush White here...
Can you find a better sequence for Black here ?
( May need to read 5+ moves. )


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Post #3 Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:00 am 
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Hi o00o00o,

If your post seemed to be changing, it was because I was trying to edit it at the same time you were.
Sorry about the confusion.
It looks like all four games are working now.

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Post #4 Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:04 am 
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The one common theme that I see in all four games is that you don't split your opponent often enough. The biggest instance is move 10, game 1 that Ed mentions.

A second, but minor improvement would be to not play on the first rank so soon if you can find something bigger.

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Post #5 Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:26 pm 
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Thanks to everyone for their feedback. Looks like its a few misplaced stones and lack of good reading along with needing to be a little more aggressive in play. I probably need to focus on doing more tsumegos as well. :study: Thanks guys :salute:

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Post #6 Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:27 pm 
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Joaz Banbeck wrote:
Hi o00o00o,

If your post seemed to be changing, it was because I was trying to edit it at the same time you were.
Sorry about the confusion.
It looks like all four games are working now.

JB,admin

Its no problem. Still tryna get used to everything on this site. :oops:

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Post #7 Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:53 am 
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Hi,

I run those 4 games through an analysis using Leela to see if I could find game reversing blunder:

Game 1, move 33

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[go]$$B Actual game move 33 was unnecessary, simple continuation is enough to win the game
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X X X X . . X X X |
$$ | O O X O X . X O O |
$$ | . . O O X X O . . |
$$ | . O . O O X O O . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . O |
$$ | . 6 2 1 . X X O 8 |
$$ | . 4 3 5 . . 9 7 . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]


No specific blunder for game 2. Black took the lead at move 33.

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[go]$$W Apparently, simply securing the lower right would have been enough.
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . O . . O |
$$ | . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . X X O O . O |
$$ | . . X O O X O O O |
$$ | . . . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . X X O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]


Game 3, move 33

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[go]$$B This is enough for black to win :)
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O O |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X |
$$ | . 4 O X X X X . X |
$$ | 2 . . O O 5 X X . |
$$ | 1 O O O O X . . . |
$$ | 3 X X X X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]


Game 4, move 53

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[go]$$B End game tesuji :)
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | O . O O O X . X O |
$$ | O O X X O X X X X |
$$ | X X . X X O O O X |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O |
$$ | . . . . X X O O . |
$$ | X X X X . X X O . |
$$ | X O O X O O O . . |
$$ | 3 O 4 O 1 2 . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]


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[go]$$W White cannot take black 6 without putting himself in atari
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | O . O O O X . X O |
$$ | O O X X O X X X X |
$$ | X X . X X O O O X |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O |
$$ | . . . . X X O O . |
$$ | X X X X . X X O . |
$$ | X O O X O O O 6 . |
$$ | X O O O 5 O . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]

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Post #8 Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:26 pm 
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pnprog wrote:
Hi,

I run those 4 games through an analysis using Leela to see if I could find game reversing blunder:



These diagrams help out significantly as well. Thank you for your input. All of the advice is beginning to make more sense now

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Post #9 Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:11 pm 
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In the last game, :b61: was the losing move. Black should not have passed.

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[go]$$Bcm61
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | O . O O O X . X O |
$$ | O O X X O X X X X |
$$ | X X . X X O O O X |
$$ | . X O O . X X O O |
$$ | . X X O X X O O . |
$$ | X X X X X X X O . |
$$ | X O O X O O O 1 . |
$$ | X O O O O . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]

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Post #10 Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:40 pm 
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Bill Spight wrote:
In the last game, :b61: was the losing move. Black should not have passed.

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[go]$$Bcm61
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | O . O O O X . X O |
$$ | O O X X O X X X X |
$$ | X X . X X O O O X |
$$ | . X O O . X X O O |
$$ | . X X O X X O O . |
$$ | X X X X X X X O . |
$$ | X O O X O O O 1 . |
$$ | X O O O O . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]

This is a very good point, im surprised i didnt see this earlier. :grumpy:... :oops: Its crazy how much one stone can make a difference.

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