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Post #41 Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:10 am 
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Post #42 Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:21 am 
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Uberdude wrote:
Actually that corner aji Toru found is even more interesting (and better for me!) than I thought at first.

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[go]$$Bc Common ko shape starts it off
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O O . O X O X O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X X O O X X O . . X . X . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . X X X . O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X O O . X . X X O . |
$$ | . O X X X . O . . X . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . O . O X O . . . . . O . . O O X . X |
$$ | . O . O O X X . X X . . O . O X X X . |
$$ | . X . . O O X . . . . X X O . O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X O O . , . . . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . X X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O . . . . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . X X X . . X . O . O O O O X X X X . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . O . . X X O X O O X . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . O O O X X . |
$$ | . 4 O O X X X . . O . X X X O O O O X |
$$ | . 3 O X O X O O . . O . . O X X O X . |
$$ | 5 2 1 X O O . . O . O X X O X . X . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


It seems like white then has two choices, capture or descend:


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[go]$$B
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O O . O X O X O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X X O O X X O . . X . X . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . X X X . O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X O O . X . X X O . |
$$ | . O X X X . O . . X . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . O . O X O . . . . . O . . O O X . X |
$$ | . O . O O X X . X X . . O . O X X X . |
$$ | . X . . O O X . . . . X X O . O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X O O . , . . . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . X X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O . . . . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . X X X . . X . O . O O O O X X X X . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . O . . X X O X O O X . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . O O O X X . |
$$ | . O O O X X X . . O . X X X O O O O X |
$$ | . X O X O X O O . . O . . O X X O X . |
$$ | X O X X O O . . O . O X X O X . X . X |
$$ | . 6 . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #43 Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:55 am 
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[go]$$B
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O O . O X O X O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X X O O X X O . . X . X . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . X X X . O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X O O . X . X X O . |
$$ | . O X X X . O . . X . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . O . O X O . . . . . O . . O O X . X |
$$ | . O . O O X X . X X . . O . O X X X . |
$$ | . X . . O O X . . . . X X O . O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X O O . , . . . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . X X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O . . . . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . X X X . . X . O . O O O O X X X X . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . O . . X X O X O O X . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . O O O X X . |
$$ | . O O O X X X . . O . X X X O O O O X |
$$ | . X O X O X O O . . O . . O X X O X . |
$$ | X O X X O O . . O . O X X O X . X . X |
$$ | . 6 . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Something:

Uberdude wrote:
So white has to descend after the ko shape and (omitting the one ko capture white can make before submitting) we end up with

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[go]$$Wcm6 Var 2 descend.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O O . O X O X O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X X O O X X O . . X . X . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . X X X . O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X O O . X . X X O . |
$$ | . O X X X . O . . X . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . O . O X O . . . . . O . . O O X . X |
$$ | . O . O O X X . X X . . O . O X X X . |
$$ | . X . . O O X . . . . X X O . O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X O O . , . . . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . X X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O . . . . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . X X X . . X . O . O O O O X X X X . |
$$ | 4 O X O . . . . O . . X X O X O O X . |
$$ | 6 O X X . . . . . . . . . O O O X X . |
$$ | 2 O O O X X X . . O . X X X O O O O X |
$$ | . X O X O X O O . . O . . O X X O X . |
$$ | X O X X O O . . O . O X X O X . X . X |
$$ | . 1 5 3 . . . . . O X X . . . . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If white finishes off in gote like this it's fully 4 points better than the game!

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[go]$$Wcm12 Var 2 descend cont.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O O . O O . O X O X O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X X O O X X O . . X . X . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . X X X . O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X O O . X . X X O . |
$$ | . O X X X . O . . X . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . O . O X O . . . . . O . . O O X . X |
$$ | . O . O O X X . X X . . O . O X X X . |
$$ | . X . . O O X . . . . X X O . O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X O O . , . . . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . X X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O . . . . O X X . . O . |
$$ | 2 X X X . . X . O . O O O O X X X X . |
$$ | X O X O . . . . O . . X X O X O O X . |
$$ | X O X X . . . . . . . . . O O O X X . |
$$ | X O O O X X X . . O . X X X O O O O X |
$$ | 1 X O . O X O O . . O . . O X X O X . |
$$ | X O . . O O . . O . O X X O X . X . X |
$$ | 3 O O O . . . . . O X X . . . . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Probably white won't finish with :w14: and leave that ko of a further 4 points behind. Seeing as I played this during the game with the r18 cut still undefended I should leave this sequence until I can afford to take gote. But what a big gote it is!

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