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Post #21 Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:09 pm 
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Hehe, I was thinking more that Tygem players must just be much stronger for their equivalent ranks, but it sounds like that isn't the case around the kyu/dan border, so I'll probably reset to 1k or something - I still want to earn my dan rank if I can!

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Post #22 Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:14 pm 
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I think it's really hard to make a direct comparison since the ranking systems are different - and the style of play is different. In any case, you can just play a few games, and you'll get a feel for the style.

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Post #23 Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:56 pm 
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Oh man, Tygem is fun. Since I registered as an ipad user, and am apparently not clever enough to figure out how to reset my account, I’ll be clawing my way up from 18k.

Even at that rank, I had two games where I blew it in heated fighting, and two games where I was completely outgunned (of 14 matches total in the past couple days).

By comparison, on KGS I am a soft 5k.

Honestly, I have no idea where my rank will settle in at.

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Post #24 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:57 am 
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First minus point for tygem: The escaper system. Looks like you can't resume a game(possibly only after a few minutes) and instead get autoloss.
And who the hell thought it'd be a good idea to force restart the computer to install updates? Seriously Microsoft. And not just like in XP where any program with unsaved data could stop the shutdown. No simply terminate them.

Looks like people on tygem have a very similar style to what I do. But it looks like they know different tesujies from kgs players of my strength.

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Post #25 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:57 am 
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rubin427 wrote:
Oh man, Tygem is fun. Since I registered as an ipad user, and am apparently not clever enough to figure out how to reset my account....


You can just re-register with a different user name.

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Post #26 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:43 am 
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First minus point for tygem: The escaper system. Looks like you can't resume a game(possibly only after a few minutes) and instead get autoloss.
Tygem gives a disconnected player five minutes to return.
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And who the hell thought it'd be a good idea to force restart the computer to install updates? Seriously Microsoft. And not just like in XP where any program with unsaved data could stop the shutdown. No simply terminate them.

I take it you're running Vista? On 7 you get the same annoying popup but it doesn't force shutdown if you don't respond.

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Post #27 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:10 am 
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I prefer the KGS escape policy. But there are many people who prefer a stricter system.

I'm on 7, not vista. If you ignore the dialog often/long enough it gets a countdown too. Found some registry hack that supposedly fixes it. Hope it does work. But what annoyed me most is how it force killed my programs without allowing me to cancel. Program asks me "Do you want to save your unsaved stuff?" Windows answers "I don't care, you're dead" after a second. That "feature" basically causes an intentional system crash.

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Post #28 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:58 pm 
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"Oh man, Tygem is fun. Since I registered as an ipad user, and am apparently not clever enough to figure out how to reset my account, I’ll be clawing my way up from 18k"

To reset your account rank and preserve your account name:
go to http://www.tygembaduk.com. Sign in with ipad tygem account. go to Account. Delete account(obviously all data is lost). The identical account name will be available and you can re-register at http://www.tygembaduk.com. That account is immediately available on the tygem ipad with the correct rank.

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Post #29 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:00 pm 
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rubin427 wrote:
Oh man, Tygem is fun. Since I registered as an ipad user, and am apparently not clever enough to figure out how to reset my account, I’ll be clawing my way up from 18k.


To reset your account rank and preserve your account name:
go to http://www.tygembaduk.com. Sign in with ipad tygem account name. go to Account. Delete account(obviously all data is lost). The identical account name will be available and you can re-register at http://www.tygembaduk.com. That account is immediately available on the tygem ipad with the correct rank.

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Post #30 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:57 pm 
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Tygem .... is .... awesome .... so much blood!

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Post #31 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:18 pm 
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topazg wrote:
Tygem .... is .... awesome .... so much blood!

Could you post an sgf plz? :cool:

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Post #32 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:58 pm 
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Tygem .... is .... awesome .... so much blood!

Could you post an sgf plz? :cool:


Sure, and I promise I'm resetting my rank before I play any more games (probably to 2k, and see how that goes - I hate entering anywhere as a dan rank).

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Post #33 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 4:10 pm 
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Could you post an sgf plz? :cool:


Sure, and I promise I'm resetting my rank before I play any more games (probably to 2k, and see how that goes - I hate entering anywhere as a dan rank).


Please set your rank to at least 1-2 dan. I have stable 2D and 3D accounts on Tygem, but I'm only 1K KGS (Though I will admit I haven't played on KGS very long).

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Post #34 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 4:22 pm 
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Please set your rank to at least 1-2 dan. I have stable 2D and 3D accounts on Tygem, but I'm only 1K KGS (Though I will admit I haven't played on KGS very long).


Ok, I've reset to 1d, I hope you're right :-?

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Post #35 Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:10 am 
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I've just installed the english client to try it out. That's really neat a client. But there's really a lot of sandbaggers.

I'm what we could call a weak player (15k-for-life kind of player), I really stop believe I could ever be strong, but on that server, my first two games were against a 18k who won 10 games played all against 1d-4d players and one loss against a 6d.

It's me or there's a problem with the ranking system in there?

Otherwise, a lot of bloody fun...

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Post #36 Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:44 am 
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Do they do a mac client? It would seem logical if they have an iPad version but I can't find it if they do.

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mayweed wrote:
I've just installed the english client to try it out. That's really neat a client. But there's really a lot of sandbaggers.

I'm what we could call a weak player (15k-for-life kind of player), I really stop believe I could ever be strong, but on that server, my first two games were against a 18k who won 10 games played all against 1d-4d players and one loss against a 6d.

It's me or there's a problem with the ranking system in there?

Otherwise, a lot of bloody fun...


I don´t think its the ranking system, there really a lot of sandbaggers at lower levels (at least on the chinese server which was where i played the most).
On a second note 15k isnt really that weak... atleast to me it isnt, and you can get stronger just believe in it and continue playing go you will get stronger, if you want i can go over your games and give some pointers.

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Do they do a mac client?


I don't think so.

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It would seem logical if they have an iPad version but I can't find it if they do.


Kind of. But on the other hand, consider that their ipad app is limited functionality. It's not the full desktop client. So there may or may not be a significant amount of *extra* work to release a mac client.

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Post #39 Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:10 pm 
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Just to note, I'm 1 dan KGS but am 3-0 on Tygem as a 1 dan. I think Tygem 1 dans are weaker than KGD 1 dans, so someone like topazg is easily 2-3 dan.

As for a Mac client for Tygem, I am unaware of one existing, but if you can set up Wine on your Mac then you could use Tygem just fine.

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mayweed wrote:
I really stop believe I could ever be strong,
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you can get stronger just believe in it and continue playing go you will get stronger, if you want i can go over your games and give some pointers
I think that contrary to popular belief, almost anything can be learned. I'd even go so far as to say that I think intelligence in the traditional sense hardly exists. Here's evidence. As far as reviewing some of your games, I'll do that if you'd like.

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