My guess is that Shibano was 3rd in the overall ranking.jts wrote:Surprised Yamashita is doing better than Shibano. No one is surprised that Ichiriki and Iyama are #1 and #2, but I would have guessed those two play Shibano more often than anyone else besides each other.
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- Tue Mar 25, 2025 7:49 pm
- Forum: Professionals
- Topic: Japanese pro earnings 2024
- Replies: 6
- Views: 31323
Re: Japanese pro earnings 2024
- Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:13 am
- Forum: Professionals
- Topic: Early-early 3-3
- Replies: 13
- Views: 17486
Re: Early-early 3-3
Yes, an early-early 3-3. Take that, AlphaGo, which takes the credit for innovation just like Doetsu (probably) overshadowing Yusen. Remarkably, katago seems to say this is the best move. More remarkably, when the AlphaGo 3-3 hit the headlines, one conclusion drawn was that pros had assumed ...
- Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:56 pm
- Forum: Amateurs
- Topic: A special (new?) strategy in AGA field?
- Replies: 22
- Views: 81925
Re: A special (new?) strategy in AGA field?
I must be missing something, what is the number of prisoners on each side?Gérard TAILLE wrote: Black to play and win
At first sight, assumming no prisoners, black has 22 points, white has 14, so with komi 6.5 black won already.
- Tue Jul 04, 2023 10:45 am
- Forum: Go Books
- Topic: New doorstep
- Replies: 3
- Views: 12258
Re: New doorstep
Thank you for all the wonderful books! This one I even managed to find online and order a couple of days ago, before your announcement here :-)
Any plans to republish older books? I realize I don't have "The Insha Game: Honinbo Shusai versus Karigane Junichi" and a few others which Slate & Shell ...
Any plans to republish older books? I realize I don't have "The Insha Game: Honinbo Shusai versus Karigane Junichi" and a few others which Slate & Shell ...
- Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:50 pm
- Forum: General Go Chat
- Topic: Ars Technica article about go
- Replies: 20
- Views: 19293
Re: Ars Technica article about go
The update is that they found a way to beat KataGo after giving it 9 stones handicap.
Article: https://goattack.far.ai/pdfs/go_attack_paper.pdf
KGS games: https://gokgs.com/gameArchives.jsp?user=corners&year=2023&month=1
Example game:
(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]HA[9 ...
Article: https://goattack.far.ai/pdfs/go_attack_paper.pdf
KGS games: https://gokgs.com/gameArchives.jsp?user=corners&year=2023&month=1
Example game:
(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]HA[9 ...
- Sat Apr 23, 2022 3:24 pm
- Forum: Announcements
- Topic: New book - Ogawa Doteki, Go Prodigy
- Replies: 19
- Views: 18402
Re: New book - Ogawa Doteki, Go Prodigy
Both "Games of Shuei" and the similarly large "Genjo - Chitoku" books arrived in perfect condition for me, you must have had bad luck... I would just return it and reorder, to get one without defects.
Seems like Amazon's printing service doesn't like them either. I finally decided to spend $80 for ...
Seems like Amazon's printing service doesn't like them either. I finally decided to spend $80 for ...
- Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:28 am
- Forum: Professionals
- Topic: Kim Myeongwan vs. Choi Jeong
- Replies: 3
- Views: 3945
Re: Kim Myeongwan vs. Choi Jeong
I'm not a big watcher of pro games, but at least to me, Myeongwan stuck out to me as an "old-fashioned" player from the start, even from his third move:
$$Bc ...
$$Bc ...
- Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:51 pm
- Forum: Amateurs
- Topic: 7x7 best play
- Replies: 10
- Views: 10744
Re: 7x7 best play
Maybe there is a better way for black to play in the beginning, if the komi is 9.
- Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:47 pm
- Forum: Computer Go
- Topic: interview with KataGo author David Wu
- Replies: 5
- Views: 6668
Re: interview with KataGo author David Wu
I also liked the interview!
In particular, I found the quote below very interesting, namely that a small rule change such as "group tax" would make KataGo play more like Takemiya :-)
As an amateur, this means one has even more reason to play their own Go style, instead of trying to mimic AI, since ...
In particular, I found the quote below very interesting, namely that a small rule change such as "group tax" would make KataGo play more like Takemiya :-)
As an amateur, this means one has even more reason to play their own Go style, instead of trying to mimic AI, since ...
- Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:03 pm
- Forum: Study Group
- Topic: Opening problems for AI: Problem 27
- Replies: 8
- Views: 11282
Re: Opening problems for AI: Problem 27
KataGo with komi set to zero has some unexpected suggestion.
The favorite is black "a" in the lower-left, which seems unusual by human standards. In fact I don't remember ever seeing this move in human pro play!
This way black is winning by 93.5%, 9 points ahead.
KataGo's 2nd choice is black "b ...
The favorite is black "a" in the lower-left, which seems unusual by human standards. In fact I don't remember ever seeing this move in human pro play!
This way black is winning by 93.5%, 9 points ahead.
KataGo's 2nd choice is black "b ...
- Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:41 pm
- Forum: Study Group
- Topic: Leela Zero Opening Gospel: expanded and illustrated
- Replies: 20
- Views: 22377
Re: Leela Zero Opening Gospel: expanded and illustrated
"My gospel is holier than your gospel", said BlackHole to KataGo: http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/viewer.cgi?19x19/SGF/2020/06/25/702940.sgf
Interestingly, the several KataGo versions on CGOS all have very negative scores against the BlackHole bot: http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/19x19/cross ...
Interestingly, the several KataGo versions on CGOS all have very negative scores against the BlackHole bot: http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/19x19/cross ...
- Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:30 pm
- Forum: Study Group
- Topic: More Shibano AI magic
- Replies: 28
- Views: 18406
Re: More Shibano AI magic
The commonality I see between the 3-4 based shimari and the 4-4 based one is that they both prevent the opponent from playing a very desirable move (a keima approach).
That has a circular scent. Isn't the keima approach is a desirable move because it prevents the owner of the corner stone to ...
- Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:02 pm
- Forum: Study Group
- Topic: More Shibano AI magic
- Replies: 28
- Views: 18406
Re: More Shibano AI magic
Personally, I don't like to think in too many categories (such as shimari 1, shimari 2, etc..).
The commonality I see between the 3-4 based shimari and the 4-4 based one is that they both prevent the opponent from playing a very desirable move (a keima approach).
In that sense, the 4-4 based ...
The commonality I see between the 3-4 based shimari and the 4-4 based one is that they both prevent the opponent from playing a very desirable move (a keima approach).
In that sense, the 4-4 based ...
- Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:52 pm
- Forum: Study Group
- Topic: Opening problems for AI: Problem 3
- Replies: 17
- Views: 15025
Re: Opening problems for AI: Problem 3
I suppose in the examples Elf agrees the side extension limits a moyo that needs limiting because it is thick and big, whereas in the first position Black's top side is nothing to be scared of so you shouldn't play locally bad move for non applicable global reasons.
Most players would, I think ...
Most players would, I think ...
- Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:13 am
- Forum: Study Group
- Topic: Opening problems for AI: Problem 1
- Replies: 13
- Views: 14511
Re: Opening problems for AI: Problem 1
I was thinking yesterday, while reading Bill's new series of threads, that the message I think AI is telling us is: "you can play anything you want, LITERALLY, in the beginning of the game, as long as you follow it up reasonably afterwards, and you don't make any bad mistakes". I know it is not ...