Life In 19x19

The longest pro game is 400 and something, I don't remember where I saw it.

There was a game with 411 moves between Yamabe Toshiro and Hoshino Toshi in the Oteai on 1950-12-20 listed at FamousGamesInvolvingKo .

Of course this involves ko, so it wouldn't necessarily be the game ending with the ...

We are talking go terminology, you know. "Position" was used to mean a configuration of stones long before the term was adapted to distinguish a kind of superko.

Of course we are. In most other games situation and position are used interchangeably. So at what point did this sudden break occur ...

Positional superko and situational superko seem like fine descriptive names to me, as Bill has explained. The meaning of natural situational superko is not apparent from its name. Perhaps a name like Causative Superko or Causative Situational Superko would have been better?

Btw, this might not be the right place to post it, but as a total beginner and there is so much out there, what are your guys advice o/n where to begin/start?

Check out The Interactive Way to Go if you haven't yet.

Go look at Sensei's Library , which has links to pages for beginners and a ...

Wow, thanks Uberdude for the great comparisons and especially the last two diagrams.

By my count, the game may still be close if Chew can get a good result on the left while reducing the center-left slightly. I guess he needs to move D7 somehow. E6 looks like a vital spot, but I don't think it comes to much:

$$Bcm140 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3 ...

emeraldemon wrote:Prokofiev, I decided to pull your question into its own thread so that maybe more people will see it

Thanks!

Awesome. I feel somewhat evil with this much of a lead.

I'm not sure it'll last, but I'm looking forward to seeing if it does.

A question about the game:

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prokofiev,

the principle is far from obvious. It is much easier to use (or have intuitive understanding with the same effect as) a principle like "If you reinforce a corner, choose the biggest move.". Actually a great percentage of amateur players think like that and make these locally ...

@Robert, hyperpape

I like principles, but I have to say this was a particularly poor one to choose.

I have to agree with hyperpape that the principle is obvious in so far as it is true (there must be situations where it is correct in a whole board context to pressure the outside stones more ...

This is true but only half the story. The thing is, that logic doesn't distinguish between various classes of mistake. Yes, it means M 1 is more likely, but it also means M 2 is the same amount more likely. It also raises P(OW) (where OW = Opponent played well) by the same amount ...

Given all the above, I think some of you are blaspheming the holy name of Bayes .

Oh dear. So as not to clog up the thread more, I'll hide my response.

You're saying, if I read correctly, "Given that I experienced a loss, Bayes says we should expect my mistakes must have been bigger". In ...

I agree with Mef's comment about highly skewed games likely not being great for reviews for the most part. Heavy losses will have at least some key lessons to be drawn, though, while a heavy win may not have much there.

If you'll allow that the probability of a loss given such a mistake is higher ...

The claim's intent was clearly "a player's worst mistakes are _more likely_ to show up in lost games", would you dispute that statement? Yes, I would. Please show the statistics data.

If you'll allow that the probability of a loss given such a mistake is higher than the probability of a loss ...

Yeah, crossing major language family boundaries really kills it. There was a hilarious site I was trying to find again that would translate back and forth between English and Japanese until it got a stable cycle, but I can't remember what it was.

Here's the link

I gave it the "original ...