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- Sun Apr 12, 2026 8:41 pm
- Forum: Go Books
- Topic: The most difficult problem ever. Igo Hatsuyoron 120
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- Sun Mar 29, 2026 11:18 pm
- Forum: Go Books
- Topic: The most difficult problem ever. Igo Hatsuyoron 120
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Re: The most difficult problem ever. Igo Hatsuyoron 120
Initial content has been uploaded:Cassandra wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2026 4:26 amPreparatory work for the corresponding update of the IH120 website is underway, but it will take more than a while...
The Non-Main-Semeai Solutions
- Sat Mar 28, 2026 3:04 am
- Forum: General Go Chat
- Topic: why do tsumegos have exactly one solution?
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Re: why do tsumegos have exactly one solution?
在中国古代死活题中,强调的是题中最精彩的变化或容易忽略的陷阱,而不是唯一的解答。
In ancient Chinese life-and-death problems, the emphasis is on the most brilliant variations or the easily overlooked traps within the problem, rather than on a single solution. (by DeepL)
This is also true for Inoue Dôsetsu Inseki's Igo Hatsuyôron 120 ...
- Fri Mar 13, 2026 7:40 am
- Forum: Go Books
- Topic: The most difficult problem ever. Igo Hatsuyoron 120
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Re: The most difficult problem ever. Igo Hatsuyoron 120
During the formation of the Nakade
Even after completing the Crosscut-Sequence, non-Main-Semeai solutions are still possible. Black will already have played one or two moves that temporarily cut the white groups on the left edge for the potential formation of the Nakade.
Black may already have ...
Even after completing the Crosscut-Sequence, non-Main-Semeai solutions are still possible. Black will already have played one or two moves that temporarily cut the white groups on the left edge for the potential formation of the Nakade.
Black may already have ...
- Fri Mar 13, 2026 7:12 am
- Forum: Go Books
- Topic: The most difficult problem ever. Igo Hatsuyoron 120
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Re: The most difficult problem ever. Igo Hatsuyoron 120
Just before the end of the Crosscut-Sequence
The next opportunity for non-Main-Semeai solutions comes immediately before the final exchange to complete the Crosscut-Sequence in the upper left centre.
Black may already have reduced White's territory in the upper right corner to varying degrees ...
The next opportunity for non-Main-Semeai solutions comes immediately before the final exchange to complete the Crosscut-Sequence in the upper left centre.
Black may already have reduced White's territory in the upper right corner to varying degrees ...
- Thu Mar 12, 2026 10:17 pm
- Forum: Go Books
- Topic: The most difficult problem ever. Igo Hatsuyoron 120
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Re: The most difficult problem ever. Igo Hatsuyoron 120
After the completion of the Hanezeki
The second phase of generating non-Main-Semeai solutions begins immediately after the completion of the Hanezeki, i.e. when the tail length is two stones. It ends when the tail begins to move upwards.
Black may already have reduced White's territory in the ...
The second phase of generating non-Main-Semeai solutions begins immediately after the completion of the Hanezeki, i.e. when the tail length is two stones. It ends when the tail begins to move upwards.
Black may already have reduced White's territory in the ...
- Thu Mar 12, 2026 4:31 am
- Forum: Go Books
- Topic: The most difficult problem ever. Igo Hatsuyoron 120
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Re: The most difficult problem ever. Igo Hatsuyoron 120
During the formation of the Hanezeki
The first opportunities to deviate towards a non-Main-Semeai solution arise in the initial phase of the formation of the Hanezeki, i.e. as long as the outer blockade is not yet complete.
Black may already have inserted the first exchange for reducing White's ...
The first opportunities to deviate towards a non-Main-Semeai solution arise in the initial phase of the formation of the Hanezeki, i.e. as long as the outer blockade is not yet complete.
Black may already have inserted the first exchange for reducing White's ...
- Thu Mar 12, 2026 4:26 am
- Forum: Go Books
- Topic: The most difficult problem ever. Igo Hatsuyoron 120
- Replies: 70
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Re: The most difficult problem ever. Igo Hatsuyoron 120
Almost a year has passed since the last status report. In the course of further network training during this time, additional non-Main Semeai variations were found, so I decided to split the update to improve clarity.
Preparatory work for the corresponding update of the IH120 website is underway ...
Preparatory work for the corresponding update of the IH120 website is underway ...
- Sat Mar 15, 2025 4:16 am
- Forum: Go Books
- Topic: The most difficult problem ever. Igo Hatsuyoron 120
- Replies: 70
- Views: 144840
Re: The most difficult problem ever. Igo Hatsuyoron 120
The other non-Main-Semeai variations
The other non-Main-Semeai variations still have a long way to go before consolidation, as the board is much emptier / more open and there are therefore many more variations to investigate.
8 generations of the 28b-net after #59 ...
The other non-Main-Semeai variations still have a long way to go before consolidation, as the board is much emptier / more open and there are therefore many more variations to investigate.
8 generations of the 28b-net after #59 ...
- Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:58 am
- Forum: Go Books
- Topic: The most difficult problem ever. Igo Hatsuyoron 120
- Replies: 70
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Re: The most difficult problem ever. Igo Hatsuyoron 120
Really?dany wrote:So in any case Main-Semeai will be choosen not non-Main-Semeai variations
The further course of the Main Semeai does NOT match the historical meaning of the title of the problem given by Inoue Dôsetsu Inseki.
- Sat Feb 08, 2025 1:48 pm
- Forum: Go Books
- Topic: The most difficult problem ever. Igo Hatsuyoron 120
- Replies: 70
- Views: 144840
Re: The most difficult problem ever. Igo Hatsuyoron 120
Sorry for playing the noob.
Some trivial help below ...
$$Bm135
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . X . X O . . . O . O . . O X . |
$$ | . . X 8 . X O . O O O X O . O . . O . |
$$ | . X O O X X . O . . . X O O . O O . . |
$$ | . X O X O X X 9 0 O . X . O O X . . . |
$$ | X ...
Some trivial help below ...
$$Bm135
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . X . X O . . . O . O . . O X . |
$$ | . . X 8 . X O . O O O X O . O . . O . |
$$ | . X O O X X . O . . . X O O . O O . . |
$$ | . X O X O X X 9 0 O . X . O O X . . . |
$$ | X ...
- Sat Feb 08, 2025 11:06 am
- Forum: Go Books
- Topic: The most difficult problem ever. Igo Hatsuyoron 120
- Replies: 70
- Views: 144840
Re: The most difficult problem ever. Igo Hatsuyoron 120
The other non-Main-Semeai variations
The other non-Main-Semeai variations still have a long way to go before consolidation, as the board is much emptier / more open and there are therefore many more variations to investigate.
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$$B ...
The other non-Main-Semeai variations still have a long way to go before consolidation, as the board is much emptier / more open and there are therefore many more variations to investigate.
046048_F2J3
$$B ...
- Sat Feb 08, 2025 2:29 am
- Forum: Go Books
- Topic: The most difficult problem ever. Igo Hatsuyoron 120
- Replies: 70
- Views: 144840
Re: The most difficult problem ever. Igo Hatsuyoron 120
082_E15
Both side's option for returning to the Main Semeai
In this non-Main-Semeai Variation, both sides may cooperate to return to the Main Semeai.
$$Bm83
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . 9 . . . . X O O . X O X O . . O ...
Both side's option for returning to the Main Semeai
In this non-Main-Semeai Variation, both sides may cooperate to return to the Main Semeai.
$$Bm83
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . 9 . . . . X O O . X O X O . . O ...
- Sat Feb 08, 2025 2:16 am
- Forum: Go Books
- Topic: The most difficult problem ever. Igo Hatsuyoron 120
- Replies: 70
- Views: 144840
Re: The most difficult problem ever. Igo Hatsuyoron 120
082_E15
$$Bm75
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . # . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X O O . X O # @ . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . X @ . . W O . . |
$$ | . X O , . . . . . O . X . O O B . . . |
$$ | . . X X Q X 2 O O . O X X . X X O O . |
$$ | . X ...
$$Bm75
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . # . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X O O . X O # @ . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . X @ . . W O . . |
$$ | . X O , . . . . . O . X . O O B . . . |
$$ | . . X X Q X 2 O O . O X X . X X O O . |
$$ | . X ...
- Fri Feb 07, 2025 10:26 pm
- Forum: Go Books
- Topic: The most difficult problem ever. Igo Hatsuyoron 120
- Replies: 70
- Views: 144840
Re: The most difficult problem ever. Igo Hatsuyoron 120
084_E15
$$Bm77
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . # . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X O O . X O @ W @ . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . X # @ . # O . . |
$$ | . X O , . . . . . O . X . O O B . . . |
$$ | . . X X Q X 2 O O . O X X . X X O O . |
$$ | . X ...
$$Bm77
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . # . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X O O . X O @ W @ . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . X # @ . # O . . |
$$ | . X O , . . . . . O . X . O O B . . . |
$$ | . . X X Q X 2 O O . O X X . X X O O . |
$$ | . X ...